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From:	"D. Ghost" <dghost@****.COM>
Subject:	New R2 Mods (Was: I'm Happy :)
Date:	Mon, 9 Nov 1998 01:49:22 -0600

Message no. 1 On Mon, 9 Nov 1998 00:39:48 EST K in the Shadows <Ereskanti@***.COM>
writes:
<SNIP>
K, you're a wierd one ... Happy about being hit 200 times ... ;) Congrats
:)

>BTW, anyone got any ideas for modifications to make to Vehicles that are
NOT
>in the Rigger-2 or the Corporate Security text? I'm putting together a
list
>for HHH, and Mike has some going through for HHJr.

You'll be sorry you asked ;)

1) Large Field Holophone (item from Shadowbeat. Great for phoning the
Emperor.)
2) Hydraulics (BoiNGy bOIngY BoiNGy)
3) Fish Tanks
4) Monster Truck (Not a chassis but a mod for existing vehicles)
5) Multiple propulsion systems (ie, the car that sprouts heliocopter
blades...)
6) Colapsabilty/Stowability for non-drones
7) Oil jets
8) Fuzzy Dice
9) Knight Rider's changing license plates
10) Solid Tires
11) Mudflaps
12) Wetbar
13) Miscilaneous items that don't use electricity (Obvious?)
14) Foldable Solar Cell Tent for Electric Vehicles (to recharge your
bike, for example)
15) Car horn that plays "La Cucharacha" (sp?)
16) Tinted Windows
17) Gun Racks
18) Hidden Compartments
19) Floatation devices in the bucket seats
20) Baby Seats
21) Oxygen Masks (ie, back up life support)
22) IR/Low-light/Ultrasound spotlights
23) Transparent floors (so you can see if that last pedistrian was
anybody you knew)

I'll toss ya some more if I think of them :)

--
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(aka Pixel, Tantrum, RuPixel)
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From:	"XaOs [David Goth]" <xaos@*****.NET>
Subject:	Re: New R2 Mods (Was: I'm Happy :)
Date:	Mon, 9 Nov 1998 02:35:19 -0600

Message no. 2 > You'll be sorry you asked ;)

Ha! Maybe he will!

> I'll toss ya some more if I think of them :)

Sheesh...why not buy a copy of Car Wars (or Uncle Albert's Catalog From
Hell), and be done with it?

-XaOs-
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-David Goth-

From:	Oliver McDonald <oliver@*********.COM>
Subject:	Re: New R2 Mods (Was: I'm Happy :)
Date:	Mon, 9 Nov 1998 07:49:18 -0800

Message no. 3 On Mon, 9 Nov 1998 01:49:22 -0600, D. Ghost wrote:

> 9) Knight Rider's changing license plates

Or for the classy runner, James Bond changing license plates.

From:	"Ojaste,James [NCR]" <James.Ojaste@**.GC.CA>
Subject:	Re: New R2 Mods (Was: I'm Happy :)
Date:	Mon, 9 Nov 1998 12:22:07 -0500

Message no. 4 D. Ghost wrote:
> >BTW, anyone got any ideas for modifications to make to Vehicles that are
> NOT
> >in the Rigger-2 or the Corporate Security text? I'm putting together a
[snip]
> 10) Solid Tires
>
These might arguably be RunFlats...

> 12) Wetbar
>
This in CorpSec (in the text for the executive jet).

James Ojaste
(yeah, I've been quiet lately)

From:	GRANITE <granite@**.NET>
Subject:	Re: New R2 Mods (Was: I'm Happy :)
Date:	Mon, 9 Nov 1998 10:41:35 -0700

Message no. 5 > > 10) Solid Tires
> These might arguably be RunFlats...

I would have to dissagree..A solid tire is meant to be run that
way..a run flat is meant to run with pressure but will also run
deflated..
Currently solids are available for bicycles..they affect the ride and
handling of a vehice..
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From:	K in the Shadows <Ereskanti@***.COM>
Subject:	Re: New R2 Mods (Was: I'm Happy :)
Date:	Mon, 9 Nov 1998 13:16:56 EST

Message no. 6 In a message dated 11/9/1998 3:00:52 AM US Eastern Standard Time,
dghost@****.COM writes:

> You'll be sorry you asked ;)
>
> 1) Large Field Holophone (item from Shadowbeat. Great for phoning the
> Emperor.)

Okay, I think I would need to reread this one. I didn't pay that much
attention to Shadowbeat all those years ago (yes, I know, I have sinned, I
shall chastise myself now...HIT HIT HIT ;)

> 2) Hydraulics (BoiNGy bOIngY BoiNGy)

Okay, what exactly do you mean here? As in -making- a truck bounce around, or
just better suspension/shock absorption?

> 3) Fish Tanks

??? Okay ..... *-)

> 4) Monster Truck (Not a chassis but a mod for existing vehicles)

Which would have what benefits? The tires could roll over lower bod
vehicles??? Oh yeah, I can see it now, special attack form....crushing... :)

> 5) Multiple propulsion systems (ie, the car that sprouts heliocopter
> blades...)

Been there, Done That. On a motorcycle no less....

> 6) Colapsabilty/Stowability for non-drones

THAT is the current project I am working on at HHH. Setup/Breakdown
times/information is incredibly lacking. I've already started with just a FEW
things, but the core details are still in the making.

> 7) Oil jets

Okay, now that we've entered the Bond, James Bond(TM), field testing stages...
;P

> 8) Fuzzy Dice

Customization Specifications
Parts Cost : 2 Nuyen (more advanced models would of course cost more :)
Parts Availability : Whenever you can get your sorry ass out of the garage and
to Spencer's(TM) to buy 'em?
Street Index : 1 (unless of course you steal 'em :)
Maximum Rating : Unknown (many stories of people having multiple dice in order
to improve their chances of survival abound)
Base Time : See Parts Availability above.
Skill : GM fiendishness is encouraged.
Target Number : See "Skill" above.
Equipment Needed : One good vehicle, special operations team (aka runners)
consisting of no less than 2 samurai (one troll of course), 2 magicians (3 if
you count the new Politically Correct Runners handbook, to keep things off
balance as much as possible), 1 decker, 1 rigger (two riggers are bad, as they
tend to fight over the aquired goods), and two-three Big Boobed Blonde
Bimbos(TM) for the general appearance and reputation upkeep.
CF consumed : see "Equipment Needed" above.
Load Reducation : Bathroom is *that* way.

> 9) Knight Rider's changing license plates

I hadn't consider this one actually. BUT, it does happen.

> 10) Solid Tires

I thought that is what runflats were for???

> 11) Mudflaps

We just used "Hipwaders" and went from there ;)

> 12) Wetbar

Mike already has this up on HHJr. somewhere.

> 13) Miscilaneous items that don't use electricity (Obvious?)

See "Fuzzy Dice" above.

> 14) Foldable Solar Cell Tent for Electric Vehicles (to recharge your
> bike, for example)

THAT is something we are doing. Just wait until we get the entire Space Race
gear section up and going. Solar Tents, how out-a-date....

> 15) Car horn that plays "La Cucharacha" (sp?)

You know, actually, the Horn system on a car could make a good wea...er, uhm,
toy.

> 16) Tinted Windows

As visibility modifiers go, this actually could be taken seriously. How about
"Controlled Polarization Glass", as that could make things far more
interesting.

> 17) Gun Racks

For the 'Hick'(TM) in us all ;P

> 18) Hidden Compartments

JUST put Microcompartments up on HHH actually.

> 19) Floatation devices in the bucket seats

More likely a modification to bucket seats as they exist now. Use "Flotation
Kits for Aircraft" out of R2, it would work sort of. Just not cost effective.

> 20) Baby Seats

For what? The Otaku-in-training(TM) decker???

> 21) Oxygen Masks (ie, back up life support)

Secondary Systems could be modified with regards to Enviroseal and/or
Lifesupport now.

> 22) IR/Low-light/Ultrasound spotlights

Got those, just don't have them up yet.

> 23) Transparent floors (so you can see if that last pedistrian was
> anybody you knew)

Or if they were worth the points to begin with :)

> I'll toss ya some more if I think of them :)

If they are like most of these were, be warned, you'll get 'em tossed back in
the exact same manner as above.

-K

From:	"D. Ghost" <dghost@****.COM>
Subject:	Re: New R2 Mods (Was: I'm Happy :)
Date:	Mon, 9 Nov 1998 16:46:37 -0600

Message no. 7 On Mon, 9 Nov 1998 12:22:07 -0500 "Ojaste,James [NCR]"
<James.Ojaste@**.GC.CA> writes:
>D. Ghost wrote:
>> >BTW, anyone got any ideas for modifications to make to Vehicles that
are
>> NOT
>> >in the Rigger-2 or the Corporate Security text? I'm putting together
a
>[snip]
>> 10) Solid Tires

>These might arguably be RunFlats...

Possibly but I don't thinks so. Runflats are armored against punctures
whereas Solid Tires are (genrally) not affected by punctures.

>> 12) Wetbar

>This in CorpSec (in the text for the executive jet).

Hmm ... Must have missed that ... :)

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From:	"D. Ghost" <dghost@****.COM>
Subject:	Re: New R2 Mods (Was: I'm Happy :)
Date:	Mon, 9 Nov 1998 17:49:34 -0600

Message no. 8 On Mon, 9 Nov 1998 13:16:56 EST K in the Shadows <Ereskanti@***.COM>
writes:
>In a message dated 11/9/1998 3:00:52 AM US Eastern Standard Time,
>dghost@****.COM writes:

>> You'll be sorry you asked ;)
>>
>> 1) Large Field Holophone (item from Shadowbeat. Great for phoning
the
>> Emperor.)

>Okay, I think I would need to reread this one. I didn't pay that much
>attention to Shadowbeat all those years ago (yes, I know, I have sinned,
I
>shall chastise myself now...HIT HIT HIT ;)

Don't bother. It was a joke... It's basicly a Holographic, lifesize
version of a Vidphone (Maybe Shadowbeat Authors watched Star Wars too
many times? ;).

>> 2) Hydraulics (BoiNGy bOIngY BoiNGy)

>Okay, what exactly do you mean here? As in -making- a truck bounce
around, or
>just better suspension/shock absorption?

Bounce Around.

<SNIP>
>> 4) Monster Truck (Not a chassis but a mod for existing vehicles)

>Which would have what benefits? The tires could roll over lower bod
>vehicles??? Oh yeah, I can see it now, special attack
>form....crushing... :)

Well, that and it just looks cool :)

<SNIP>
>> 14) Foldable Solar Cell Tent for Electric Vehicles (to recharge your
>> bike, for example)

>THAT is something we are doing. Just wait until we get the entire Space
Race
>gear section up and going. Solar Tents, how out-a-date....

I'm not sure if you're thinking the same thing I am ... Basicly
Collapsable/Stowable Solar Panels to recharge Electric Vehicles (A
portable solar recharge station?) or to compliment the Solar Cells
already in the vehicle. Perhaps it would gather, under optimal
circumstances, 100 PF per hour?

<SNIP>
>> I'll toss ya some more if I think of them :)

>If they are like most of these were, be warned, you'll get 'em tossed
back in
>the exact same manner as above.

Hey! Some of them were good ;P~

--
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From:	Jett <zmjett@*********.COM>
Subject:	Re: New R2 Mods (Was: I'm Happy :)
Date:	Mon, 9 Nov 1998 23:34:54 -0500

Message no. 9 "D. Ghost" wrote:

> Don't bother. It was a joke... It's basicly a Holographic, lifesize
> version of a Vidphone (Maybe Shadowbeat Authors watched Star Wars too
> many times? ;).
>
> >> 2) Hydraulics (BoiNGy bOIngY BoiNGy)
>
> >Okay, what exactly do you mean here? As in -making- a truck bounce
> around, or
> >just better suspension/shock absorption?
>
> Bounce Around.

Woohoo! Just like Dr. Dre's car, right? ooh, yah. I can imagine driving down
the street in one of these...for the Shadowrunner who's truly a gangsta at
heart! (Trinity, are you reading this? ;) )

Also...cup holders! You're forgetting cup holders! I can't help but think of
that Pepsi commercial with the race car driver and the pepsi can...I can
imagine a rigger doing that...

Anyway, Snookums needs a place to put his milk while he's driving, duh. :P

--Jett

<*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*>

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occasional advice or insult."
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From:	"XaOs [David Goth]" <xaos@*****.NET>
Subject:	Re: New R2 Mods (Was: I'm Happy :)
Date:	Mon, 9 Nov 1998 22:35:19 -0600

Message no. 10 > >THAT is something we are doing. Just wait until we get the entire Space
> Race
> >gear section up and going. Solar Tents, how out-a-date....
>
> I'm not sure if you're thinking the same thing I am ... Basicly
> Collapsable/Stowable Solar Panels to recharge Electric Vehicles (A
> portable solar recharge station?) or to compliment the Solar Cells
> already in the vehicle. Perhaps it would gather, under optimal
> circumstances, 100 PF per hour?

Solar panels orbiting the planet, broadcasting power back to Earth by a
microwave link. Say byebye petrochem!

-XaOs-
xaos@*****.net
-David Goth-

From:	"D. Ghost" <dghost@****.COM>
Subject:	Re: New R2 Mods (Was: I'm Happy :)
Date:	Mon, 9 Nov 1998 23:14:55 -0600

Message no. 11 On Mon, 9 Nov 1998 17:49:34 -0600 "D. Ghost" <dghost@****.COM> writes:
>On Mon, 9 Nov 1998 13:16:56 EST K in the Shadows <Ereskanti@***.COM>
>writes:
<SNIP>
>>> 2) Hydraulics (BoiNGy bOIngY BoiNGy)

>>Okay, what exactly do you mean here? As in -making- a truck bounce
around, or
>>just better suspension/shock absorption?

>Bounce Around.
<SNIP>

Actually, I was thinking about this some more and what about something to
make your vehicle actually jump? Put it on a 1998 VW Beetle and call it
"Jumping Bean" :)

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From:	K in the Shadows <Ereskanti@***.COM>
Subject:	Re: New R2 Mods (Was: I'm Happy :)
Date:	Tue, 10 Nov 1998 00:53:02 EST

Message no. 12 In a message dated 11/9/1998 11:55:53 PM US Eastern Standard Time,
xaos@*****.NET writes:

>
> > I'm not sure if you're thinking the same thing I am ... Basicly
> > Collapsable/Stowable Solar Panels to recharge Electric Vehicles (A
> > portable solar recharge station?) or to compliment the Solar Cells
> > already in the vehicle. Perhaps it would gather, under optimal
> > circumstances, 100 PF per hour?

Actually, yes we were thinking along the same lines, and I will say that we do
have this already. We are working on kind of ruling however, to create game
mechanics consistency (I know, "in SR?" you saying... ;).

> Solar panels orbiting the planet, broadcasting power back to Earth by a
> microwave link. Say byebye petrochem!

I won't go into this little mess.

-K

From:	Gurth <gurth@******.NL>
Subject:	Re: New R2 Mods (Was: I'm Happy :)
Date:	Tue, 10 Nov 1998 12:11:42 +0100

Message no. 13 According to K in the Shadows, at 13:16 on 9 Nov 98, the word on the street was...

> > 16) Tinted Windows
>
> As visibility modifiers go, this actually could be taken seriously. How about
> "Controlled Polarization Glass", as that could make things far more
> interesting.

Those are already standard on SR vehicles. This is buried in comments in
various books (like the magic and vehicles rules in Rigger 2).

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From:	K in the Shadows <Ereskanti@***.COM>
Subject:	Re: New R2 Mods (Was: I'm Happy :)
Date:	Tue, 10 Nov 1998 08:33:11 EST

Message no. 14 In a message dated 11/10/1998 7:00:55 AM US Eastern Standard Time,
gurth@******.NL writes:

<snipped polarizing glass in vehicles>
>
> Those are already standard on SR vehicles. This is buried in comments in
> various books (like the magic and vehicles rules in Rigger 2).
>
Somehow I just don't see it being a standard in all cars though. Also, I
guess I was assuming (there's that word again ;) that other people would have
remembered Knight Rider's version of polarizing glass, which was FAR more
effective.

-K

From:	Brian Wong <rook@*****.INFINEX.COM>
Subject:	Re: New R2 Mods (Was: I'm Happy :)
Date:	Tue, 10 Nov 1998 06:42:43 -0800

Message no. 15 > <snipped polarizing glass in vehicles>
> >
> > Those are already standard on SR vehicles. This is buried in comments in
> > various books (like the magic and vehicles rules in Rigger 2).
> >
> Somehow I just don't see it being a standard in all cars though. Also, I
> guess I was assuming (there's that word again ;) that other people would have
> remembered Knight Rider's version of polarizing glass, which was FAR more
> effective.

I just finished reading the vehicle rules in SR3 two days back and it
is mentioned in there as standard. Don't have the book on hand for a page
number however.

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From:	Gurth <gurth@******.NL>
Subject:	Re: New R2 Mods (Was: I'm Happy :)
Date:	Tue, 10 Nov 1998 19:24:17 +0100

Message no. 16 According to K in the Shadows, at 8:33 on 10 Nov 98, the word on the street was...

> > Those are already standard on SR vehicles. This is buried in comments in
> > various books (like the magic and vehicles rules in Rigger 2).
> >
> Somehow I just don't see it being a standard in all cars though.

It is in my campaign :) Ah, here we are... Rigger 2, page 54 at the top of
the right-hand column: "Nearly every vehicle in the 2050s comes with
adjustable tinted windows." That makes me think it's standard unless you
specifically ask for normal windows when you buy a new car.

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From:	Mike Bobroff <Airwasp@***.COM>
Subject:	Re: New R2 Mods (Was: I'm Happy :)
Date:	Tue, 10 Nov 1998 15:09:25 EST

Message no. 17 In a message dated 11/9/98 3:00:51 AM US Eastern Standard Time,
dghost@****.COM writes:

> >BTW, anyone got any ideas for modifications to make to Vehicles that are
> NOT
> >in the Rigger-2 or the Corporate Security text? I'm putting together a
> list
> >for HHH, and Mike has some going through for HHJr.
>
> You'll be sorry you asked ;)

Dghost ... I shall endeavor to make the most of the list ... I'll notify
everyone once I get working on the list ...

-Mike

From:	"D. Ghost" <dghost@****.COM>
Subject:	Re: New R2 Mods (Was: I'm Happy :)
Date:	Tue, 10 Nov 1998 16:44:34 -0600

Message no. 18 On Tue, 10 Nov 1998 08:33:11 EST K in the Shadows <Ereskanti@***.COM>
writes:
>In a message dated 11/10/1998 7:00:55 AM US Eastern Standard Time,
>gurth@******.NL writes:
><snipped polarizing glass in vehicles>

>> Those are already standard on SR vehicles. This is buried in comments
in
>> various books (like the magic and vehicles rules in Rigger 2).

>Somehow I just don't see it being a standard in all cars though. Also,
I
>guess I was assuming (there's that word again ;) that other people would
have
>remembered Knight Rider's version of polarizing glass, which was FAR
more
>effective.

I don't recall that ... How did it work? Was this in the original Knight
Rider or ver 2.0?

Speaking of Knight Rider ... What about Team Knight Rider's motorcycles
that combined into tha "car"-ish thingy (Two! Two mints in one!)? Yes,
the show's effects for that were cheesy but what about comining vehicles
in a less chessy manner? (A while back there was a Concept Car [from
Dodge?] that looked like an RV but the front end split off into a Minivan
(REALLY mini van) and the rear end was like a trailer. Looked nice too
...)

--
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(aka Pixel, Tantrum, RuPixel)
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From:	K in the Shadows <Ereskanti@***.COM>
Subject:	Re: New R2 Mods (Was: I'm Happy :)
Date:	Wed, 11 Nov 1998 01:45:19 EST

Message no. 19 In a message dated 11/10/1998 7:24:26 PM US Eastern Standard Time,
dghost@****.COM writes:

>
> Speaking of Knight Rider ... What about Team Knight Rider's motorcycles
> that combined into tha "car"-ish thingy (Two! Two mints in one!)? Yes,
> the show's effects for that were cheesy but what about comining vehicles
> in a less chessy manner? (A while back there was a Concept Car [from
> Dodge?] that looked like an RV but the front end split off into a Minivan
> (REALLY mini van) and the rear end was like a trailer. Looked nice too
> ...)

This one I must have missed somehow. As for the merging concept of two bike's
together, that to me wouldn't be *that* hard to pull off. Having side-car
like hitchings on both vehicles, and then have the operator(s) of the vehicles
make a special handling (linking) test of some sort.

As for the concept car, I keep thinking I've seen something that matches your
description, but don't recall with certainty.

-K

From:	Micheal Feeney <Starrngr@***.COM>
Subject:	Re: New R2 Mods (Was: I'm Happy :)
Date:	Wed, 11 Nov 1998 11:09:31 EST

Message no. 20 In a message dated 98-11-10 00:24:32 EST, you write:

> Actually, I was thinking about this some more and what about something to
> make your vehicle actually jump? Put it on a 1998 VW Beetle and call it
> "Jumping Bean" :)
>
> --
> D. Ghost

Go Speed Racer GO!!! Hmm. Then we need to add things like Sicky tires that
allow you to drive on almost any surface, and deployable buzzsaws.

BTW, I just thought of a major consideration that was overlooked in Speed R.
In most races, he doesnt need a lot of the gizmos on the Mach 5. and some of
them could be considered weapons that could be used against the other
drivers... so why was he allowed to have them on the car? Only Racer X had
anything similar, but nothing near the Mach 5.

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