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Message no. 1
From: GATESCA@***.MRS.UMN.EDU
Subject: new weapons
Date: Sat, 4 Dec 1993 13:20:54 -0600
I've been kickning around the idea of transferring weapons form various
ohter games into SR, most notably, from Robotech. (Yes, all you mad, drooling
men, imagine what one character could do with a fully charged cyclone in seattle when
they're pissed off). Also, the weapons in cyberpunk ook very interesting-
such as a rifle that fires ramjets missles. The farther away you are, the faster and more
accurately the projectile hits. I'll see if I can drum up some stats
over christmas break.

Gabriel
Message no. 2
From: "J.D. Falk" <jdfalk@***.GWU.EDU>
Subject: Re: new weapons
Date: Sat, 4 Dec 1993 22:57:43 -0500
On Sat, 4 Dec 1993 GATESCA@***.MRS.UMN.EDU wrote:

> I've been kickning around the idea of transferring weapons form various
> ohter games into SR...[rest deleted]

Anybody be interested in all the first and second edition AD&D
weapons converted to Shadowrun (including some of the magical ones,
converted to technology?)

"We all agree that your theory is mad. /--------------------\
The problem which divides us is this: | J.D. Falk |
is it sufficiently crazy to be right?" | jdfalk@***.gwu.edu |
-Dr. Neils Bohr \--------------------/
Message no. 3
From: "C. Paul Douglas" <granite@********.CLARK.NET>
Subject: Re: new weapons
Date: Sun, 5 Dec 1993 15:41:22 -0500
On Sat, 4 Dec 1993 GATESCA@***.MRS.UMN.EDU wrote:

> I've been kickning around the idea of transferring weapons form various
> ohter games into SR, most notably, from Robotech. (Yes, all you mad, drooling
> men, imagine what one character could do with a fully charged cyclone in seattle when
they're pissed off). Also, the weapons in cyberpunk ook very interesting-
> such as a rifle that fires ramjets missles. The farther away you are, the faster and
more accurately the projectile hits. I'll see if I can drum up some stats
> over christmas break.
>
> Gabriel
>
I AM NOT MAD!!!
i can't wait to see what you come up with - i'm not saying i'm going to
let my shadowrunners get one...fight one maybe...never get one
-----------------GRANITE
Message no. 4
From: "C. Paul Douglas" <granite@********.CLARK.NET>
Subject: Re: new weapons
Date: Sun, 5 Dec 1993 15:47:19 -0500
On Sat, 4 Dec 1993, J.D. Falk wrote:

> Anybody be interested in all the first and second edition AD&D
> weapons converted to Shadowrun (including some of the magical ones,
> converted to technology?)
>
does a sidewinder make noise when you shake him?? of course i would
please send them please
------------------------GRANITE
drool
Message no. 5
From: "J.D. Falk" <jdfalk@***.GWU.EDU>
Subject: Re: new weapons
Date: Mon, 6 Dec 1993 00:14:36 -0500
On Sun, 5 Dec 1993, C. Paul Douglas wrote:

> On Sat, 4 Dec 1993, J.D. Falk wrote:
>
> > Anybody be interested in all the first and second edition AD&D
> > weapons converted to Shadowrun (including some of the magical ones,
> > converted to technology?)
> >
> does a sidewinder make noise when you shake him?? of course i would
> please send them please
> ------------------------GRANITE
> drool

Sorry to pop your bubble of drool, but I haven't actually DONE it
yet...I was just trying to gage response. Look for 'em in various short
installments over the next few months...
Message no. 6
From: Mike Loseke <MLoseke@*****.COLOSTATE.EDU>
Subject: Re: new weapons
Date: Mon, 6 Dec 1993 08:41:31 MST
No.

Legion
Message no. 7
From: "C. Paul Douglas" <granite@********.CLARK.NET>
Subject: Re: new weapons
Date: Mon, 6 Dec 1993 16:24:24 -0500
Look for 'em in various short
> installments over the next few months...
>
WIll do
-----------------GRANITE
Message no. 8
From: "J.D. Falk" <jdfalk@***.GWU.EDU>
Subject: Re: new weapons
Date: Tue, 7 Dec 1993 02:17:21 -0500
On Mon, 6 Dec 1993, Mike Loseke wrote:

> No.
>
> Legion

Uh, Mike, wanna enlighten us as to what you're refusing? There've
been at least three messages with that same subject line...
Message no. 9
From: Mike Loseke <MLoseke@*****.COLOSTATE.EDU>
Subject: Re: new weapons
Date: Tue, 7 Dec 1993 02:17:21 GMT
Forwarded to: XMAIL[shadowrn@*****.nic.surfnet.nl]

cc:
Comments by: Mike Loseke@*********@*************
Comments:

Sorry about being unclear. It's this stupid Banyan Vines mailer; I haven't
quite got it figgered out yet.

I said "No" to the person who posted about converting the AD&D weapons,
magical and non-magical. I don't see any need for a flood of conversions
from a game most on this list have come to barely tolerate. I think it was
White Wolf magazine who had an article with all sorts of magical stuff for
SR2. I didn't even buy that copy. But if you want to convert and post them,
feel free. I was just voicing my (non-referenced) opinion.

BTW, if you've seen the articles in White Wolf by "Legion"... It ain't me.
Whoever it is has stolen my moniker.

Legion
The one and many...

-------------------------- [Original Message] -------------------------
On Mon, 6 Dec 1993, Mike Loseke wrote:

> No.
>
> Legion

Uh, Mike, wanna enlighten us as to what you're refusing? There've
been at least three messages with that same subject line...
Message no. 10
From: Mike Loseke <MLoseke@*****.COLOSTATE.EDU>
Subject: Re: New weapons
Date: Mon, 20 Dec 1993 13:29:53 MST
>MLoseke> Oh Fearless Leader, is there a problem on your end with me
>MLoseke> glomming a huge file to the list full of new/converted weapons?

>Please don't. If you do, I /will/ complain to your sysadmin for clobbering
>my mail spool.

That wouldn't do any good; I *am* my System Administrator.

>I suggest you solicit requests and send mail individually to people who
>actually want it.

Good idea, though. That's what I'll do.

To all: Please mail me directly (not to the list) if you'd like the file
of new weapons. The .gifs will be available via anon-ftp from a site to be
disclosed at a later time.

Legion
Message no. 11
From: Warlok <EHULTGRE@******.BITNET>
Subject: Re: New weapons
Date: Mon, 20 Dec 1993 15:46:18 EST
re: New Weapons

Yeah, send it to me.

-warlok
ehultgre@******.kent.edu

"Eat it and die!Eat it and die!"
Message no. 12
From: "C. Paul Douglas" <granite@********.CLARK.NET>
Subject: Re: New weapons
Date: Tue, 21 Dec 1993 17:17:07 -0500
On Mon, 20 Dec 1993, Mike Loseke wrote:

> That wouldn't do any good; I *am* my System Administrator.

I've been waiting for this - the day somebody threatened to taddle to an
sa on somebody and that somebody was the sa -hahahaahahaahahaahaaha

>
> Good idea, though. That's what I'll do.
>
> To all: Please mail me directly (not to the list) if you'd like the file
> of new weapons. The .gifs will be available via anon-ftp from a site to be
> disclosed at a later time.
>
> Legion
>
send 'em my way when you decide to start sendin' stuff
thx
-------------------------------GRANITE
Message no. 13
From: "J.D. Falk" <jdfalk@***.GWU.EDU>
Subject: Re: New weapons
Date: Tue, 21 Dec 1993 23:50:34 -0500
On Tue, 21 Dec 1993, C. Paul Douglas wrote:

> On Mon, 20 Dec 1993, Mike Loseke wrote:
[stuff deleted]
> > To all: Please mail me directly (not to the list)...
[stuff deleted]
>
> send 'em my way when you decide to start sendin' stuff
>

Nice to see how well Military guys follow instructions... =^>
*NOT a flame, just a humorous yet biting comment!*
Message no. 14
From: Joseph Cotton <Joseph.Cotton@*******.OIT.UNC.EDU>
Subject: Re: New weapons
Date: Wed, 22 Dec 1993 09:28:18 EST
J. D. Falk wrote:

>
> On Tue, 21 Dec 1993, C. Paul Douglas wrote:
>
> > On Mon, 20 Dec 1993, Mike Loseke wrote:
> [stuff deleted]
> > > To all: Please mail me directly (not to the list)...
> [stuff deleted]
> >
> > send 'em my way when you decide to start sendin' stuff
> >
>
> Nice to see how well Military guys follow instructions... =^>
> *NOT a flame, just a humorous yet biting comment!*

Speaking as a former military guy, as well as someone currently working
with the military, I'd be glad to mail him directly instead of cluttering
up the list *if he had included his ding-busted address!!*

Send 'em to me, too.

Joe Cotton
Joseph.Cotton@*******.oit.unc.edu <= note inclusion of address :)
Message no. 15
From: "C. Paul Douglas" <granite@********.CLARK.NET>
Subject: Re: New weapons
Date: Thu, 23 Dec 1993 14:01:25 -0500
On Tue, 21 Dec 1993, J.D. Falk wrote:

> On Tue, 21 Dec 1993, C. Paul Douglas wrote:
>
> > On Mon, 20 Dec 1993, Mike Loseke wrote:
> [stuff deleted]
> > > To all: Please mail me directly (not to the list)...
> [stuff deleted]
> >
> > send 'em my way when you decide to start sendin' stuff
> >
>
> Nice to see how well Military guys follow instructions... =^>
> *NOT a flame, just a humorous yet biting comment!*
>
did i accidentally send that to the list?? oops.
i never was one for taking instruction..i'm more the give instruction type
[hhmmm..well it fit in the way i tried to put it so that must be the way
it goes..we won't really be using that old nuke anyway][heheh][just
trying to instill a little confidence in our armed forces]
----------------------------GRANITE
Message no. 16
From: MR DELIVAN S HARDERS <YUBM21A@*******.COM>
Subject: New Weapons
Date: Wed, 8 Feb 1995 18:55:22 EST
For those of you who run combat mages and may be interested in a new
weapon system geared for a mages purpose, drop me a line and let me know.
I'll send you a doc on the system that I've developed. It's completely
within FASA's rules.

-Reaver(16:59:36/2-8-95)
Message no. 17
From: Bryan Prince <prince%xray.dnet@******.ROC.WAYNE.EDU>
Subject: Re: new weapons...
Date: Wed, 8 Feb 1995 19:35:07 -0500
Reaver--

I'm interested, but your address didn't show up in my mailer-
Can you post the file to my address?
Thanx, Chummer--
-SHADOWMASTER(19:45:04/2-8-95)
[PRINCE%XRAY.DNET@******.ROC.WAYNE.EDU]
Message no. 18
From: Nightfox <DJWA@******.UCC.NAU.EDU>
Subject: Re: New Weapons
Date: Wed, 8 Feb 1995 18:04:40 -0700
> For those of you who run combat mages and may be interested in a new
>weapon system geared for a mages purpose, drop me a line and let me know.
>I'll send you a doc on the system that I've developed. It's completely
>within FASA's rules.

I'm interested.

Why don't you just post it here and to NERPS (because NERPS is cool)

Nightfox
Message no. 19
From: Matt Hufstetler <gt2778a@*****.GATECH.EDU>
Subject: Re: New Weapons
Date: Thu, 9 Feb 1995 00:52:15 -0500
>
> For those of you who run combat mages and may be interested in a new
> weapon system geared for a mages purpose, drop me a line and let me know.
> -Reaver(16:59:36/2-8-95)

Yes... a return mail address would be nice... But send me a copy.


Matt H.
gt2778a@*****.gatech.edu
Message no. 20
From: Gurth <gurth@******.NL>
Subject: Re: New Weapons
Date: Thu, 9 Feb 1995 10:52:30 +0100
> For those of you who run combat mages and may be interested in a new
>weapon system geared for a mages purpose, drop me a line and let me know.
>I'll send you a doc on the system that I've developed. It's completely
>within FASA's rules.

I don't know if you've seen my net.publications Running Gear and/or Tech
Specs (they're on my WWW page, the URL is in my .sig), but if you let me I
could include your system in the next one of these publications. Fully
credited, naturally (plus you can have your picture in it, if you can send
me a scanned one). I must say that I haven't seen your system yet (you said
you'd post it on the list, but it didn't appear yet), so I don't quite get
what it is exactly.


Gurth@******.nl - Gurth@***.nl - http://www.xs4all.nl/~gurth/index.html
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Message no. 21
From: Inquisitor <ESPD92MS@****.ANGLIA-POLYTECHNIC.AC.UK>
Subject: Re: New Weapons
Date: Thu, 9 Feb 1995 14:10:00 GMT
And me too please! ;-)
Message no. 22
From: Luc <rjwate01@********.SPD.LOUISVILLE.EDU>
Subject: Re: New Weapons
Date: Thu, 9 Feb 1995 10:35:39 EST
>
> For those of you who run combat mages and may be interested in a new
> weapon system geared for a mages purpose, drop me a line and let me know.
> I'll send you a doc on the system that I've developed. It's completely
> within FASA's rules.
>
> -Reaver(16:59:36/2-8-95)
>
Post it to the list....


Luc
Message no. 23
From: BLANKE_B@************.wcoil.com
Subject: new weapons
Date: Thu, 28 Mar 1996 15:34:50 -0500
I need new melee weapons are there any new ones out there somewhere?
Message no. 24
From: Sascha.Pabst@**********.uni-oldenburg.de (Sascha 'Jhary' Pabst)
Subject: Re: new weapons
Date: Fri, 29 Mar 1996 01:15:56 +0100
At 21:34 Uhr 28.03.96, BLANKE_B@************.wcoil.com wrote:
>I need new melee weapons are there any new ones out there somewhere?

Did you check
ftp://ftp.cybernothing.org/shadowrun
and
ftp://ftp.cais.com/shadowrun
and Gurth's Plastic Warriors (*pray that I get the URL right*)
http://www.xs4all.nl/~gurth/plastic.html
???
If that isn't enough, check Paolo's Archive... *think* *paste*
http://www.interware.it/users/paolo/sr2/index.html
...
Sascha

--
+---___---------+----------------------------------------+--------------------+
| / / _______ | Jhary-a-Conel aka Sascha Pabst |The one who does not|
| / /_/ ____/ |Sascha.Pabst@**********.Uni-Oldenburg.de| learn from history |
| \___ __/ | | is bound to live |
|==== \_/ ======| *Wearing hats is just a way of life* | through it again. |
|LOGOUT FASCISM!| - Me | |
+------------- http://www.informatik.uni-oldenburg.de/~jhary -----------------+
Message no. 25
From: "Nat C." <natc@*****.net>
Subject: New Weapons
Date: Sat, 25 May 1996 13:27:31 -0400 (EDT)
Something that I've noticed with Shadowrun is that there are really few
NEW weapons. There are just a lot of gunz and gernades and swords (which
have showed the least change). I know there are some things like
explosive rounds and mono wires but there are relitively few considering
the speed in which technology is advancing now days. I have decided to
make a few new items. The ones here are all knives and swords because
there seams to be a lack of new blades around. If you like them, please
mail me for mor ideas and don't ask me for the rules, make them yourself
for your own game. They are as follows:


Sonic Knife: This is basically a normal knife but a switch triggered by
contact to the blade causes it to vibrate at extreemly high
frequencies. This method is very effective agenst soft objects
but is useless agenst harder targets.

Barbed Knife: This is a nasty little thing which will cause normal damage
when entering and then causes even more damage when it leaves the body.
This only aplies to soft targets; on hard targets it does the
same ammount of damage.

High hilted knife: This is really Just a normal knife but its blade
extends down in front of the grip or hilt. It is always one
bladed and is often curved to add ease in slashing. It causes
normal damage to all targets but is easier to wield than a normal
knife.

Crystal edged Knife/Sword: This is basically a sword or knife whith
little or no restistance when cutting through something. It is
basically a combination of dikkote (sp?) and mono-fiber. To
maintain its cutting power, one must sterolize it under extreem
heat and pressure weekly.

Fractal edge blades: They are like normal blades but the edge is
ten times as long as it looks. It is extreemly superior at
cutting any sort of material which is not 100% solid such as cast iron.
Any material such as flesh, ceramic armor, most low grade
plastics and any biological material is cut very easily.

Thats all for now. Mail me for more.

-Xyphius
Message no. 26
From: "Andre' Selmer" <031ANDRE@******.wits.ac.za>
Subject: Re: New Weapons
Date: Mon, 27 May 1996 09:58:37 GMT + 2:00
<snip about not enough gizmos --- I agree>

@ Sonic Knife: This is basically a normal knife but a switch triggered by
@ contact to the blade causes it to vibrate at extreemly high
@ frequencies. This method is very effective agenst soft objects
@ but is useless agenst harder targets.

You'll need some fairly heavy damping around the handle to get
rid of the vibration. A simple example is try to hold one of those
old fashioned vibrating massage (sp?) machines. Your hand is numb
after a few minutes.

@ Barbed Knife: This is a nasty little thing which will cause normal damage
@ when entering and then causes even more damage when it leaves the body.
@ This only aplies to soft targets; on hard targets it does the
@ same ammount of damage.

I know those exist today, howabout some stats ?
Dam: StrL for standard slash
Dam: Str+3L for stab (T#+2) ?

@ High hilted knife: This is really Just a normal knife but its blade
@ extends down in front of the grip or hilt. It is always one
@ bladed and is often curved to add ease in slashing. It causes
@ normal damage to all targets but is easier to wield than a normal
@ knife.

@ Crystal edged Knife/Sword: This is basically a sword or knife whith
@ little or no restistance when cutting through something. It is
@ basically a combination of dikkote (sp?) and mono-fiber. To
@ maintain its cutting power, one must sterolize it under extreem
@ heat and pressure weekly.

I would suggest if there was no successes, the blade shatters.

@ Fractal edge blades: They are like normal blades but the edge is
@ ten times as long as it looks. It is extreemly superior at
@ cutting any sort of material which is not 100% solid such as cast iron.
@ Any material such as flesh, ceramic armor, most low grade
@ plastics and any biological material is cut very easily.

I think that is a little over kill. How did they manage this ?


Andre'

-- We exist because you want us to, because you are
|__|__ afraid to fact the facts. We are what you fear
/\ /\ \ in the deep recesses of your soul, yourselves.
|\ /\ /| | It is there in the shadows of your soul and those
|/ \/ \| | of the street that we exist. Through the use of
\/__\/ might, magic, cunning, blood, sweat and tears we
protect you from your fears, from youselves, from
others and keep your utopia, not ours, intact.
Message no. 27
From: "Meredith L. Patterson" <ST5F2@******.UH.EDU>
Subject: Re: New Weapons
Date: Mon, 27 May 1996 10:14:02 -0500 (CDT)
>@ Sonic Knife: This is basically a normal knife but a switch triggered by
>@ contact to the blade causes it to vibrate at extreemly high
>@ frequencies. This method is very effective agenst soft objects
>@ but is useless agenst harder targets.
>
> You'll need some fairly heavy damping around the handle to get
>rid of the vibration. A simple example is try to hold one of those
>old fashioned vibrating massage (sp?) machines. Your hand is numb
>after a few minutes.

True, but those massage machines vibrate over a space that would be broad
compared to what might be necessary for a vibroknife. Actually, such a wide
area of vibration (go to The Sharper Image sometime and try their hand
massagers--it's very visible) might make a vibroknife really difficult to use
simply because it's tossing so much force around in different directions.

However, something that's vibrating, say, half a millimeter in either
direction, a hundred times a second (or more), is going to be passably
controllable and will definitely rip up on anything soft--and crack itself to
pieces on hard targets. I'd also add +1 or +2 to the target number since it
*is* vibrating.

>@ Fractal edge blades: They are like normal blades but the edge is
>@ ten times as long as it looks. It is extreemly superior at
>@ cutting any sort of material which is not 100% solid such as cast iron.
>@ Any material such as flesh, ceramic armor, most low grade
>@ plastics and any biological material is cut very easily.
>
> I think that is a little over kill. How did they manage this ?

I'm assuming you've seen a Mandelbrot set before? If you zoom in on one, you'll
find that the edges, which *look* smooth, are actually various curves, which
are actually made up of *more* curves--ad infinitum. Of course, taking it out
to infinity is not really possible, but in a world where monowire exists, I
think it might be possible to have a blade with serrations within serrations.
I'm not sure how sturdy the edge would be though...imagine how embarrassed
you'd be if you took your fractal-edged blade (which, based on the precision it
would take to create such a thing, ought to be obscenely expensive), tried to
slice through something hard, and came back with a nastily crumpled edge...

--Dryad
Message no. 28
From: acgetchell@*******.edu (Adam Getchell)
Subject: Re: New Weapons
Date: Mon, 27 May 1996 16:14:40 -0700
>Sonic Knife: This is basically a normal knife but a switch triggered by
> contact to the blade causes it to vibrate at extreemly high
> frequencies. This method is very effective agenst soft objects
> but is useless agenst harder targets.

Unfortunately, a metallic blade will suffer from fatigue stresses and give
out after, say, 10 million cycles (how high is your frequency of
vibration). Even if you (grossly) overdesign the blade to the infinite
cyclic frequency level, it would be extraordinarily sensitive to crack
propagation and notching.

A ceramic blade would powder itself in no time, especially as the
vibrational frequency nears the resonant frequency of the ceramic.

A better sonic knife design wouldn't bother with the blade, but then you'd
best have a lot of joules in your battery pack to run the thing for any
length of time.

>Fractal edge blades: They are like normal blades but the edge is
> ten times as long as it looks. It is extreemly superior at
> cutting any sort of material which is not 100% solid such as cast iron.
> Any material such as flesh, ceramic armor, most low grade
> plastics and any biological material is cut very easily.

A fractal edge blade is, again, subject to crack propagation. Oh, and very
easy to make: we already have them. They're called stainless steel knives.
Up close inspection of the blade shows a fractal surface, especially when
unpolished. This is *not* a desirable characteristic. Obsidian knives cut
better than steel knives because they *don't* have a fractal edge; they
have a long, smooth one. Cutting power is applied force divided by area,
after all: the smaller the area, the better.

That's why monowhips work so well.

>-Xyphius

=================================================================
Adam Getchell
acgetchell@*******.edu
http://www.engr.ucdavis.edu/~acgetche/
=================================================================

"Invincibility is in oneself, vulnerability in the opponent."
-- Sun Tzu
Message no. 29
From: Gweedo The Killer Pimp <yawas@****.COM>
Subject: Re: New Weapons
Date: Tue, 25 Feb 1997 22:41:10 EST
My friend Rip Claw has told some people about our new weapon--drumroll
please--THE LOUISIVILLE SLUGGER!
If you want the stats, just holler I'm in shouting distance.

I also need a new weapon that is kind of powerful, so that I can use it
in a run. Please oblige, hopefully, it will give the runners something
unexpected. Maybe I'm just a little S& M.


Gweedo the Killer Pimp strikes again!
Message no. 30
From: Shane Courtrille <hardware@*******.DATANET.AB.CA>
Subject: Re: New Weapons
Date: Sat, 27 Jan 2001 20:15:08 +0000
> I also need a new weapon that is kind of powerful, so that I can use it
> in a run. Please oblige, hopefully, it will give the runners something
> unexpected. Maybe I'm just a little S& M.

Its not really new... just something I used.... I got the idea from a
movie. I am not sure exactly what it was, tho I would think
anti-tank or something. The guy had to bolt it to the ground when he
shot and the rounds were massive. He was a sniper taking his target
out from 1.something kilometers away. It was very kewl as the bullet
(shell?) went through the bodyguard.. then through the target.. then
through the other side of the airplane they were getting off of. You
should see your PCs faces when you say that there is suddenly a very
large hole (fist sized I'd guess? maybe smaller) in the tree standing
next to them. :)
(And no I have no idea what damage would be... thankfully my PCs took
out the sniperS before they could get any of my PCs.)


Shane Courtrille - hardware@*******.ab.ca
HTTP://www.datanet.ab.ca/users/hardware
http://wwp.mirabilis.com/360126 for my ICQ Pager
Message no. 31
From: Tim P Cooper <z-i-m@****.COM>
Subject: Re: New Weapons
Date: Sat, 1 Mar 1997 05:28:15 EST
On Sat, 27 Jan 2001 20:15:08 +0000 Shane Courtrille writes:

>Its not really new... just something I used.... I got the idea from a
>movie. I am not sure exactly what it was, tho I would think
>anti-tank or something. The guy had to bolt it to the ground when he
>shot and the rounds were massive. He was a sniper taking his target
>out from 1.something kilometers away. It was very kewl as the bullet
>(shell?) went through the bodyguard.. then through the target.. then
>through the other side of the airplane they were getting off of. You
>should see your PCs faces when you say that there is suddenly a very
>large hole (fist sized I'd guess? maybe smaller) in the tree standing
>next to them. :)
>(And no I have no idea what damage would be... thankfully my PCs took
>out the sniperS before they could get any of my PCs.)
>
>Shane Courtrille - hardware@*******.ab.ca

What SR novel was that where the runner's kept having to deal with some
guy with a sniper rifle and depleted uranium rounds (or something)? I
can only remember the one scene (junk yard or dock...OK, remember is a
very loose term here..) where the big armored, muscle-guy goes wide eyed
as there is a fist sized flaming hole punched clean through his armor and
chest.

~Tim
Message no. 32
From: Rip Claw <joe-orc@****.COM>
Subject: Re: New Weapons
Date: Sun, 2 Mar 1997 23:57:25 EST
On Sat, 27 Jan 2001 20:15:08 +0000 Shane Courtrille
<hardware@*******.DATANET.AB.CA> writes:
>> I also need a new weapon that is kind of powerful, so that I can use
>it
>> in a run. Please oblige, hopefully, it will give the runners
>something
>> unexpected. Maybe I'm just a little S& M.
--------------------------------------
Dear Shane Courtrille,
If you want a suprise look in the bad weapons subject that I made
and there should be a Louisville slugger in there for ya ... have fun
>;-]

Are the things that we see or have seen real, or simply part of a dreamly
dream?

>
>
Message no. 33
From: Shane Courtrille <hardware@*******.DATANET.AB.CA>
Subject: Re: New Weapons
Date: Tue, 30 Jan 2001 22:20:33 +0000
> On Sat, 27 Jan 2001 20:15:08 +0000 Shane Courtrille
> <hardware@*******.DATANET.AB.CA> writes:
> >> I also need a new weapon that is kind of powerful, so that I can
> >> use
> >it
> >> in a run. Please oblige, hopefully, it will give the runners
> >something
> >> unexpected. Maybe I'm just a little S& M.
> --------------------------------------
> Dear Shane Courtrille,
> If you want a suprise look in the bad weapons subject that I made
> and there should be a Louisville slugger in there for ya ... have fun
> >;-]
>
> Are the things that we see or have seen real, or simply part of a dreamly
> dream?
>
Ummmm I'm not the one wanting the weapon... someone else wanted it..
and I gave the idea of a giant gun :)
Shane Courtrille - hardware@*******.ab.ca
Message no. 34
From: Negative Pulse <laymance@********.NET>
Subject: Re: New Weapons
Date: Mon, 3 Mar 1997 00:01:09 -0600
At 10:20 PM 1/30/01 +0000, you wrote:
>On Sat, 27 Jan 2001 20:15:08 +0000 Shane Courtrille
> <hardware@*******.DATANET.AB.CA> writes:
> >> I also need a new weapon that is kind of powerful, so that I can
> >> use
> >it
> >> in a run. Please oblige, hopefully, it will give the runners
> >something
> >> unexpected. Maybe I'm just a little S& M.

I have a thought, Although I have no Idea how to assign a damage code, what
would you think about a "molecular destablizer." It sounds nasty enough,
and could be defined in a number of ways.

Do not go gentle into that good night,
Old age should burn and rave at close of day;
Rage, rage against the dying of the light.

NegativePulse
Message no. 35
From: L Canthros <lobo1@****.COM>
Subject: Re: New Weapons
Date: Mon, 3 Mar 1997 18:15:07 EST
On Mon, 3 Mar 1997 00:01:09 -0600 Negative Pulse <laymance@********.NET>
writes:
>At 10:20 PM 1/30/01 +0000, you wrote:
>>On Sat, 27 Jan 2001 20:15:08 +0000 Shane Courtrille
>> <hardware@*******.DATANET.AB.CA> writes:
>> >> I also need a new weapon that is kind of powerful, so that I can
>> >> use
>> >it
>> >> in a run. Please oblige, hopefully, it will give the runners
>> >something
>> >> unexpected. Maybe I'm just a little S& M.
>
>I have a thought, Although I have no Idea how to assign a damage code,
>what
>would you think about a "molecular destablizer." It sounds nasty
>enough,
>and could be defined in a number of ways.
>
If you're going to pull out a molecular destabilsation ray, why not just
nuke them and be done with it? At least the nuke is real...(right now,
I'm hoping I didn't just say something stupid...)

--
-Canthros
If any man wishes peace, canthros1@***.com
let him prepare for war. lobo1@****.com
--Roman proverb
http://members.aol.com/canthros1/
Message no. 36
From: John Jones <jjonnzz@********.INFI.NET>
Subject: Re: New Weapons
Date: Wed, 5 Mar 1997 22:23:10 -0500
Tim P Cooper wrote:
>
> On Sat, 27 Jan 2001 20:15:08 +0000 Shane Courtrille writes:
>
> >Its not really new... just something I used.... I got the idea from a
> >movie. I am not sure exactly what it was, tho I would think
> >anti-tank or something. The guy had to bolt it to the ground when he
> >shot and the rounds were massive. He was a sniper taking his target
> >out from 1.something kilometers away. It was very kewl as the bullet
> >(shell?) went through the bodyguard.. then through the target.. then
> >through the other side of the airplane they were getting off of. You
> >should see your PCs faces when you say that there is suddenly a very
> >large hole (fist sized I'd guess? maybe smaller) in the tree standing
> >next to them. :)
> >(And no I have no idea what damage would be... thankfully my PCs took
> >out the sniperS before they could get any of my PCs.)
> >
> >Shane Courtrille - hardware@*******.ab.ca
>
> What SR novel was that where the runner's kept having to deal with some
> guy with a sniper rifle and depleted uranium rounds (or something)? I
> can only remember the one scene (junk yard or dock...OK, remember is a
> very loose term here..) where the big armored, muscle-guy goes wide eyed
> as there is a fist sized flaming hole punched clean through his armor and
> chest.
>
> ~Tim

SHADOWPLAY by Tom Dowd.
Message no. 37
From: John Jones <jjonnzz@********.INFI.NET>
Subject: Re: New Weapons
Date: Wed, 5 Mar 1997 22:24:08 -0500
Negative Pulse wrote:
>
> At 10:20 PM 1/30/01 +0000, you wrote:
> >On Sat, 27 Jan 2001 20:15:08 +0000 Shane Courtrille
> > <hardware@*******.DATANET.AB.CA> writes:
> > >> I also need a new weapon that is kind of powerful, so that I can
> > >> use
> > >it
> > >> in a run. Please oblige, hopefully, it will give the runners
> > >something
> > >> unexpected. Maybe I'm just a little S& M.
>
> I have a thought, Although I have no Idea how to assign a damage code, what
> would you think about a "molecular destablizer." It sounds nasty enough,
> and could be defined in a number of ways.
>

Take an idea from R Talsorian's CYBERPUNK 2020: portable microwave
weapons....

> Do not go gentle into that good night,
> Old age should burn and rave at close of day;
> Rage, rage against the dying of the light.
>
> NegativePulse

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