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Message no. 1
From: The Powerhouse <P.C.Steele@*********.AC.UK>
Subject: Re: Novels
Date: Wed, 3 Nov 1993 17:34:31 GMT
> Let me remember. I own the following ones:
>
> - Never deal with a dragon ( secrets of power 1 )
> - ??????????????? ( secrets of power 2 )

This is Choose your enemies carefully.

> - Find your own truth ( secrets of power 3 )
> - Into the shadows ( collection of stories )
> - Night's pawn
> - Shadowplay
> - ??????????? -> The one with the troll who ....

Changeling

> - Nights of blood
> - Never trust an elf

You also forgot an excellent novel. 2XS

Btw I only have 2XS, Shadowplay and the trilogy. Which book is worth getting
next ? I'm currently considering Never Trust An Elf cause of the Laverty etc
references we keep hearing about.

Is Into The Shadows any good ?

Phill.
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Message no. 2
From: DV82REL8 <GRAFF85@********.CORTLAND.EDU>
Subject: Re: Novels
Date: Wed, 3 Nov 1993 12:51:14 -0400
>> Let me remember. I own the following ones:
>>
>> - Never deal with a dragon ( secrets of power 1 )
>> - ??????????????? ( secrets of power 2 )
>
> This is Choose your enemies carefully.
>
>> - Find your own truth ( secrets of power 3 )
>> - Into the shadows ( collection of stories )
>> - Night's pawn
>> - Shadowplay
>> - ??????????? -> The one with the troll who ....
>
> Changeling
>
>> - Nights of blood
^^^^^^---------> should be streets
>> - Never trust an elf
>
>You also forgot an excellent novel. 2XS
>
>Btw I only have 2XS, Shadowplay and the trilogy. Which book is worth getting
>next ? I'm currently considering Never Trust An Elf cause of the Laverty etc
>references we keep hearing about.
>
>Is Into The Shadows any good ?
>

Into the shadows is extremely good, never trust an elf....iffy at best.

-Dave
Message no. 3
From: Role Playing Manager <moria@*****.EERIE.FR>
Subject: Novels
Date: Wed, 3 Nov 1993 18:27:51 GMT
Is Into the shadows good?

No!... It's VERY good. I'd like the idea of little stories ( like
"burning chrome" ), but what I've appreciated the most is the final. All the
stories, written by different authors, have a common conclusion, an apotheose.

Thank you for all of you who have refresh my memory about "Choose your
enemies carefully", "Changeling" and "2XS". Also 2XS is really
really good.

If I have to choose between all the books, I'll take in order of
preference:

1 - The trilogy
2 - Into the shadows
3 - 2XS
4 - Nights of blood ( for the end )
5 - Changeling, Never trust an elf, Shadowplay, Night's pawn
( for this point, one is as good as the other three )

Sorry, I don't know "Striper Assassin"


Ben - NightWolf

-=-=-

+-----------------------------+------------------------------------------------+
| Benjamin Legangneux | "How can you find your way in the shadows, |
| | If you have no light ?" |
| e-mail : moria@*****.fr | |
| legangne@*****.fr | Michael Styx - Tales of the Black Dove |
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Message no. 4
From: "David R. Henry" <dhenry@******.NODAK.EDU>
Subject: Re: Novels
Date: Wed, 3 Nov 1993 13:02:19 CST
> Btw I only have 2XS, Shadowplay and the trilogy. Which book is worth getting
> next ? I'm currently considering Never Trust An Elf cause of the Laverty etc
> references we keep hearing about.
>
> Is Into The Shadows any good ?

The Shadowrun novels, for me, have been painful exercises in reading
allowances to get background information and a feel for the world. Until
recently, that is: The last few, "Night's Pawn" and "Striper
Assassin,"
were fun reads, and "Night's Pawn" is also just a good book period.

"Streets of Blood," the London novel, is also great, largely because of the
way the authors get around the hoary excuse of Jack the Ripper coming back
to London one _more_ time. "2XS" isn't bad, but it's hardly the most
gripping of stories. "Into the Shadows" is actually a good little mosaic
novel.

"Never Trust An Elf" has very little to do with Laverty. I got it to get
more Lowfyr. :-). Of interest to the "Einterich is Lowfyr" crowd is the
scene in there were both of them talk to Kham at the same time; not that
Lowfyr couldn't do that if he wanted to, of course, but Einterich always
struck me as one of Lowfyr's more powerful dragon servents who does the
dirty work while Lowfyr gets to remain in his noble dragon form. It's
Dunkelzahn who has the funky sense of humor and likes getting down with
the ephermeals on their own ground.

Most of the rest of the novels are so-so, to downright awful, IMO (the
trilogy fits right there for me).

drh
Message no. 5
From: Dylan Northrup <northrup@*****.CAS.USF.EDU>
Subject: Re: Novels
Date: Wed, 3 Nov 1993 14:36:22 -0500
On Wed, 3 Nov 1993, The Powerhouse wrote:

> Btw I only have 2XS, Shadowplay and the trilogy. Which book is worth getting
> next ? I'm currently considering Never Trust An Elf cause of the Laverty etc
> references we keep hearing about.

I personally reccomend Night's Pawn. I think this is one of the best
ShadowRun novelisations. Nights of Blood was good until the very ending
(i.e. the meeting with the Corp.

Doc X
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Message no. 6
From: Role Playing Manager <moria@*****.EERIE.FR>
Subject: Novels
Date: Thu, 13 Jan 1994 12:38:03 GMT
Is someone here know what are the next SR novels to be produced, after
STRIPER ASSASSIN?


----------------------+---------------------------------------------------------
legangne@*****.fr º "How can you find your way in the shadows,
Benjamin Legangneux º if you have no light, no friends ?"
IRC : NightWolf º Michael Styx / Tales of the Black Dove
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Message no. 7
From: "Timothy A. Mathena" <rookie@*******.com>
Subject: novels...
Date: Sat, 21 Sep 1996 12:43:13 -0700
Loki dare I ask if I can barrow one of your SR novels to read?



*gasp* yes I know it about time I start reading them after 5 years of
playing shaowrun I should start reading them.


-Rookie
rookie@*******.com
55464@**.ev.maricopa.edu
Web Page: http://www.netzone.com/~rookie

"And if it comes. The Living will envy the Dead!"
Message no. 8
From: Loki <loki@*******.com>
Subject: Re: novels...
Date: Sat, 21 Sep 1996 15:31:06 -0700
Timothy A. Mathena wrote:
>
> Loki dare I ask if I can barrow one of your SR novels to read?
>
> *gasp* yes I know it about time I start reading them after 5 years of
> playing shaowrun I should start reading them.
>
> -Rookie

Finally the light dawns!!!

<Wolf sits in the inky blackness of the nether-realms as the young
shaman approaches. "It is about time you realized the missing step in
your dance, warrior. Muscle and magic will carry even the bravest
warrior only so far, then he finds his hunt has fallen short. To quote a
popular fictional warrior of your race, you are now finding 'Knowledge
is half the battle.'" The visage of the silver wolf begans to waver and
withdraw, then Rookie finds himself back on the physical plane, in the
familiar confines on his medicine lodge.>

I'll loan you Never Deal with a Dragon at the game tomorrow, it'll start
you on the Secrets of Power trilogy.
@>-,--'--- Loki

CLARKE'S THIRD LAW:
Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic.

*********************************************
Poisoned Elves
http://www.netzone.com/~loki/
*********************************************
Message no. 9
From: chaos@*****.com (Steven Ratkovich)
Subject: Re: novels...
Date: Sat, 21 Sep 1996 18:56:40 -0500 (EST)
>Timothy A. Mathena wrote:
>>
>> Loki dare I ask if I can barrow one of your SR novels to read?
>>
>> *gasp* yes I know it about time I start reading them after 5 years of
>> playing shaowrun I should start reading them.
>>
>> -Rookie
>
>Finally the light dawns!!!
>
><Wolf sits in the inky blackness of the nether-realms as the young
>shaman approaches. "It is about time you realized the missing step in
>your dance, warrior. Muscle and magic will carry even the bravest
>warrior only so far, then he finds his hunt has fallen short. To quote a
>popular fictional warrior of your race, you are now finding 'Knowledge
>is half the battle.'" The visage of the silver wolf begans to waver and
>withdraw, then Rookie finds himself back on the physical plane, in the
>familiar confines on his medicine lodge.>
>
>I'll loan you Never Deal with a Dragon at the game tomorrow, it'll start
>you on the Secrets of Power trilogy.
>

Do you have the anthology, Loki? That might be the best place to start,
although he IS familiar with the game... Me and my GM loan out the
anthology, Into the Shadows, to new players to get them acquainted witth the
world...:)


#######################################################
# -Bull, aka Chaos, aka Rak, aka Steven Ratkovich #
# chaos@*****.com #
# Order is Illusion! Chaos is Bliss! Got any fours? #
#######################################################

"You do more damage out of simple irritation than most
men can do in a towering rage."
-David Eddings, "Demon Lord of Karanda
Message no. 10
From: Rookie <rookie@*******.com>
Subject: Re: novels...
Date: Sat, 21 Sep 1996 15:44:59 -0700
Loki wrote:
> Finally the light dawns!!!
>
> <Wolf sits in the inky blackness of the nether-realms as the young
> shaman approaches. "It is about time you realized the missing step in
> your dance, warrior. Muscle and magic will carry even the bravest
> warrior only so far, then he finds his hunt has fallen short. To quote a
> popular fictional warrior of your race, you are now finding 'Knowledge
> is half the battle.'" The visage of the silver wolf begans to waver and
> withdraw, then Rookie finds himself back on the physical plane, in the
> familiar confines on his medicine lodge.>
>
> I'll loan you Never Deal with a Dragon at the game tomorrow, it'll start
> you on the Secrets of Power trilogy.
> @>-,--'--- Loki
>
Need I say that was beautiful.

-ROokie
--
rookie@*******.com
55464@**.ev.maricopa.edu
Web Page: http://www.netzone.com/~rookie

"And if it comes. The Living will envy the Dead!"
Message no. 11
From: Loki <loki@*******.com>
Subject: Re: novels...
Date: Sat, 21 Sep 1996 16:21:53 -0700
Steven Ratkovich wrote:
>
> >Timothy A. Mathena wrote:
> >>
> >> Loki dare I ask if I can barrow one of your SR novels to read?
> >>
> >> *gasp* yes I know it about time I start reading them after 5 years of
> >> playing shaowrun I should start reading them.
> >>
> >> -Rookie
> >
> >Finally the light dawns!!!
> >
> ><Wolf sits in the inky blackness of the nether-realms as the young
> >shaman approaches. "It is about time you realized the missing step in
> >your dance, warrior. Muscle and magic will carry even the bravest
> >warrior only so far, then he finds his hunt has fallen short. To quote a
> >popular fictional warrior of your race, you are now finding 'Knowledge
> >is half the battle.'" The visage of the silver wolf begans to waver and
> >withdraw, then Rookie finds himself back on the physical plane, in the
> >familiar confines on his medicine lodge.>
> >
> >I'll loan you Never Deal with a Dragon at the game tomorrow, it'll start
> >you on the Secrets of Power trilogy.
> >
>
> Do you have the anthology, Loki? That might be the best place to start,
> although he IS familiar with the game... Me and my GM loan out the
> anthology, Into the Shadows, to new players to get them acquainted witth the
> world...:)

Might not be a bad idea. Good point.

Yes, I have the original Into the Shadows anthonlogy that came out long
before the novel line was put into play. Kind of a strange sized grey
covered book with an Ares Dragon copter on the front...


@>-,--'--- Loki

CLARKE'S THIRD LAW:
Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic.

*********************************************
Poisoned Elves
http://www.netzone.com/~loki/
*********************************************
Message no. 12
From: chaos@*****.com (Steven Ratkovich)
Subject: Re: novels...
Date: Sat, 21 Sep 1996 20:05:22 -0500 (EST)
>> Do you have the anthology, Loki? That might be the best place to start,
>> although he IS familiar with the game... Me and my GM loan out the
>> anthology, Into the Shadows, to new players to get them acquainted witth the
>> world...:)
>
>Might not be a bad idea. Good point.
>
>Yes, I have the original Into the Shadows anthonlogy that came out long
>before the novel line was put into play. Kind of a strange sized grey
>covered book with an Ares Dragon copter on the front...
>
>
Yup, that's it... You may want to get a newer copy of it, too. They
replaced the first story (i.e. the first few chaptor's of Never Deal with a
Dragon) with a Mantis Story...:)


#######################################################
# -Bull, aka Chaos, aka Rak, aka Steven Ratkovich #
# chaos@*****.com #
# Order is Illusion! Chaos is Bliss! Got any fours? #
#######################################################

"You do more damage out of simple irritation than most
men can do in a towering rage."
-David Eddings, "Demon Lord of Karanda
Message no. 13
From: Loki <loki@*******.com>
Subject: Re: novels...
Date: Sat, 21 Sep 1996 17:09:31 -0700
Steven Ratkovich wrote:

> Yup, that's it... You may want to get a newer copy of it, too. They
> replaced the first story (i.e. the first few chaptor's of Never Deal with a
> Dragon) with a Mantis Story...:)

Hmmmm...may hafta look into that.


@>-,--'--- Loki

CLARKE'S THIRD LAW:
Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic.

*********************************************
Poisoned Elves
http://www.netzone.com/~loki/
*********************************************
Message no. 14
From: bluewizard@*****.com (Steven A. Tinner)
Subject: Re: novels...
Date: Sat, 21 Sep 1996 22:56:19 -0500 (EST)
>Loki dare I ask if I can barrow one of your SR novels to read?


GASP!!! You have a player ASKING to read the novels!! LET HIM!! LET HIM!!
I had to force even the rule books down my players throats to get them inot
the game.
Our first few sessions were essentially the players describing actions to
me, me telling them what dice to roll, and then explaining why . . . grrrr.
Annoying!


FAMOUS LAST WORDS
"You mean it really is a bag full of guns? Cool!"
Message no. 15
From: chaos@*****.com (Steven Ratkovich)
Subject: Re: novels...
Date: Sat, 21 Sep 1996 23:02:43 -0500 (EST)
>>Loki dare I ask if I can barrow one of your SR novels to read?
>
>
>GASP!!! You have a player ASKING to read the novels!! LET HIM!! LET HIM!!
>I had to force even the rule books down my players throats to get them inot
>the game.
>Our first few sessions were essentially the players describing actions to
>me, me telling them what dice to roll, and then explaining why . . . grrrr.
>Annoying!
>
>
Excuse me? As I recall, I had to beg to get you to give me books, you
rat... AHHHHHH!

"This has been a test of the energency frustration sytem. this was only a
test."


#######################################################
# -Bull, aka Chaos, aka Rak, aka Steven Ratkovich #
# chaos@*****.com #
# Order is Illusion! Chaos is Bliss! Got any fours? #
#######################################################

"You do more damage out of simple irritation than most
men can do in a towering rage."
-David Eddings, "Demon Lord of Karanda
Message no. 16
From: bluewizard@*****.com (Steven A. Tinner)
Subject: Re: novels...
Date: Sat, 21 Sep 1996 23:45:03 -0500 (EST)
>>>Loki dare I ask if I can barrow one of your SR novels to read?
>>
>>
>>GASP!!! You have a player ASKING to read the novels!! LET HIM!! LET HIM!!
>>I had to force even the rule books down my players throats to get them inot
>>the game.
>>Our first few sessions were essentially the players describing actions to
>>me, me telling them what dice to roll, and then explaining why . . . grrrr.
>>Annoying!
>>
>>
>Excuse me? As I recall, I had to beg to get you to give me books, you
>rat... AHHHHHH!

Not you specifically. I was thinking more along the lines of a cetain
Irishman, and a name-memory impaired coyote shaman . . .


FAMOUS LAST WORDS
"We're in an enclosed freight train boxcar, right?"
"Great! Then there's no way he can avoid the grenade I throw at him!"
Message no. 17
From: GRANITE <granite@**.net>
Subject: Re: novels...
Date: Tue, 24 Sep 1996 01:55:52 -0700
Rookie wrote:
> Need I say that was beautiful.
>

Oh..quit sucking up..He said yes.. ;)
--
-------------------------------GRANITE
=================================================================
Lord, Grant Me The Serinity To Accept The Things I Cannot Change,
The Courage To Change The Things I Can,
And The Wisdom To Hide The Bodies Of Those People I Had To Kill
Because They Pissed Me Off.
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ShadowRunner's Serinity Prayer
Message no. 18
From: Airk <jfrank@*****.COM>
Subject: Novels...
Date: Wed, 25 Dec 1996 22:08:05 -0700
Allo!

Does anyone have some suggestions on what the best SR novels are?
Message no. 19
From: Fro <fro@***.AB.CA>
Subject: Re: Novels...
Date: Thu, 26 Dec 1996 01:54:36 -0700
At 22:08 12/25/96 -0700, Airk wrote:
>Allo!
>
> Does anyone have some suggestions on what the best SR novels are?
>

I'll probably take some flak on this, but my favourite is 2XS by Nigel
Findely. It was the first one I ever read, and I just bought it this week
for myself, since I was sick of borrowing the libraries copy. The more I
read, the worse the writing gets, and the more manufactured the plot seems,
but I still love it. I must note thought, I haven't read all of them.
I'll throw in my two cents for least favourite too, and that was Striper
Assassin. Its sitting in my basement, I only read it once, which is strange
for me, I read most books 2 or 3 times before putting them on the shelf.
It was so Un-Shadowrunnish in my opinion..

Fro
Message no. 20
From: Charles Baker <karolusb@**.NETCOM.COM>
Subject: Re: Novels...
Date: Wed, 25 Dec 1996 03:25:06 -0800
Fro wrote:
>
> At 22:08 12/25/96 -0700, Airk wrote:
> >Allo!
> >
> > Does anyone have some suggestions on what the best SR novels are?
> >
[snip 2xs good(sorta) stryper bad]
This post is entirely IMO (Cause it might offend some people)

Into the Shadows: is in my mind (with one exception) an excellent
compilation. A very good feel for the genre.
Dead Air: another book that has a good feel, ridden with inconsistency
and other minor problems(how come every mage in a novel only knows the
hellblast spell)
Preying for keeps(I think): Good and gritty, I have grown to hate the
goody-goody shadowrun heros (too many lasers, monosword cuts through
tanker hull, but otherwise alright).
I also remember liking 2xs and changeling but I haven't read them in
ages.

The bad are there as well- I don't know if it's the character or the
writer but *Stryper* was my least favorite book until I read *who hunts
the hunter*, the only shadowrun novel I was unable to finish. *Worlds
W/o End* came very close to also falling into the unfinished category
but I was able to buck up and pull through it. Both *streets of blood*
and *Black madonna* were bad (the latter much worse) but the book in
between was actually kinda good.

(Mild spoiler of black madonna follows)

On a side note Warhammer is a great FRPG, unfortunately with the new
company having to abide by the restriction that no new material they
publish can contradict the extreme changes GW has implemented in the
boardgame they will probably have little room for new publication. Now
for the tie-in My least favorite FASA personality, the guy who brought
us Davinci the immortal elf is also the guy who got my favorite
Warhammer character stuck in Castle Drachenfels- does that guy know how
to get on my bad side or what. And now I hear Jak Koke(any info on the
name would be appreciated) may be falling into this category after one
good book he goes and claims responsibility for the big D fiasco.
Message no. 21
From: "Steven A. Tinner" <bluewizard@*****.COM>
Subject: Re: Novels...
Date: Fri, 27 Dec 1996 01:09:04 -0500
> Does anyone have some suggestions on what the best SR novels are?

Personally I think the best SR stories are those by Mike Stackpole.
He wrote the last two entries in the "Into the Shadows" short story/
braided anthology, as well as a ton of other stories about his main
character Wolf.

Other good ones IMHO are the Secrets of Power trilogy, Dead Air, the newest
one - The Lucifer Deck, 2XS, and Burning Bright.

Steven A. Tinner
bluewizard@*****.com
http://www.ncweb.com./users/bluewizard
Message no. 22
From: Tim Cooper <tpcooper@***.CSUPOMONA.EDU>
Subject: Re: Novels...
Date: Thu, 26 Dec 1996 23:12:13 -0800
On Fri, 27 Dec 1996, Steven A. Tinner wrote:

> > Does anyone have some suggestions on what the best SR novels are?
>
> Personally I think the best SR stories are those by Mike Stackpole.
> He wrote the last two entries in the "Into the Shadows" short story/
> braided anthology, as well as a ton of other stories about his main
> character Wolf.
>

That's the 'Wolf' who worked with Raven and Kid Stealth right? And also
starred in a really good story published (in pieces) with KA-GE mag ?

One cool character IMHO.

[snip]

>
> Steven A. Tinner
> bluewizard@*****.com
> http://www.ncweb.com./users/bluewizard
>

~Tim
Message no. 23
From: "Faux Pas (Thomas)" <thomas@*******.COM>
Subject: Novels
Date: Tue, 17 Jun 1997 11:31:29 -0500
Was the novel "Burnt Offering" a Shadowrun novel? I came across it on a
list of FASA novels, but don't recall it sitting on a Shadowrun shelf of
the local bookstores.



-Thomas Deeny
Your Guide to Shadowrun -- http://shadowrun.miningco.com -- updated every
Wednesday!
Thomas's World is http://telltale.hart.org -- come visit!

"Brisco, put me down."
"All right. You look bad in a wig and you were too easy to find."
-Dixie Cousins and Brisco County, Jr.
Message no. 24
From: Loki <daddyjim@**********.COM>
Subject: Re: Novels
Date: Fri, 20 Jun 1997 12:49:46 -0700
---"Faux Pas (Thomas)" wrote:
>
> Was the novel "Burnt Offering" a Shadowrun novel? I came across it
on a
> list of FASA novels, but don't recall it sitting on a Shadowrun
shelf of
> the local bookstores.


Not that I've heard of. I wonder if it's maybe an E/D novel.

The only S/R novels I'm aware of (U.S. anways) are:

Never Deal with a Dragon (Secrets of Power Vol. 1)
Choose Your Enemies Carefully (Secrets of Power Vol. 2)
Find Your Own Truth (Secrets of Power Vol. 3)
2XS
Changeling
Into the Shadows
Never Trust an Elf
Streets of Blood
Shadowplay
Night's Pawn
Striper Assassin
Lone Wolf
Fade to Black
Nosferatu
Burning Bright
Who Hunts the Hunter
House of the Sun
Worlds Without End
Just Compensation
Black Madonna
Preying for Keeps
Dead Air
The Lucifer Deck
Steel Rain
Shadowboxer
Stranger Souls (Dragonheart Trilogy Vol. 1)

===

@>--,--'--- Loki <gamemstr@********.com>

Poisoned Elves: www.primenet.com/~gamemstr/

If in your adventures you happen across the skull of a dragon, turn
and leave that place quickly. Whatever killed the dragon may still be
around.


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Message no. 25
From: Stefan <casanova@***.PASSAGEN.SE>
Subject: Re: Novels
Date: Sat, 21 Jun 1997 18:29:33 +0000
> ---"Faux Pas (Thomas)" wrote:
> >
> > Was the novel "Burnt Offering" a Shadowrun novel? I came across it
> on a
> > list of FASA novels, but don't recall it sitting on a Shadowrun
> shelf of
> > the local bookstores.

No I am quite sure that it is not an official Shadowrun Novel
atleast. Mayby some other company took upon itself to write one but I
dubt that you would see the SR logo on it then.

/Stefan
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Message no. 26
From: Lance Dillon <riffraff@********.RR.COM>
Subject: novels
Date: Sun, 25 Oct 1998 23:01:07 +0000
I just came back from Chattanooga (sp?), Tennessee, today...i visited
this one used book store that had like just about every shadowrun
novel...i saw at least 2 copies of 2XS, and about 3 sets of the Secrets
of Power trilogy (i grabbed the first 2, as those were the only books i
was missing...i now have the complete set of shadowrun novels, up to the
one just before psychobabel (sp?), as i havent seen that one
anywhere)....

just in case anybody wanted the secrets of power trilogy (i remember
something from a bit back)...

the place it McKay's Books, on Lee Highway, just off highway 153 (on the
other side of the highway from the Home Depot)...


--
Lance Dillon
Network Administrator
Nielsen Media Research
--
"Dogpile on the rabbit! Dogpile on the rabbit!"
Message no. 27
From: Mist Warrior themistwarrior@********.com.au
Subject: Novels
Date: Sun, 18 Jul 1999 15:37:26 +1000
*coming out of lurk mode to say simply*, "Those who feel that the
Novels are not great literary works are selling short the talent of
some very good writers."
*slipping back into the shadows*

Mist Warrior.

"With the Strong Hand Uppermost"
Brian Boru, Ard Ri <High King> Ireland
Message no. 28
From: Patrick Goodman remo@***.net
Subject: Novels
Date: Sun, 18 Jul 1999 01:51:23 -0500
> *coming out of lurk mode to say simply*, "Those who feel that the
> Novels are not great literary works are selling short the talent of
> some very good writers."
> *slipping back into the shadows*

They're not. I know a lot of writers, who write good books that are great
and fun reads. None of them are great literature, though, nor are they
meant to be. You can have books that are great fun and good reads, that are
not great literature.

--
(>) Texas 2-Step
El Paso: Never surrender. Never forget. Never forgive.
Message no. 29
From: Mist Warrior themistwarrior@********.com.au
Subject: Novels
Date: Sun, 18 Jul 1999 17:19:12 +1000
>They're not.

>You can have books that are great fun and good reads, that are
not great literature.

I agree totally; I just feel that the idea was presented in a way that
has not done justice to the Authors. The fact that they write at a
level that both adults and minors can relate to and enjoy makes what
they do all that more admirable. Just my opinion.
:-)

Mist Warrior

"With the Strong Hand
Uppermost"
Brian Boru, Ard Ri
<High King> Ireland
Message no. 30
From: Geoffrey Haacke knight_errant30@*******.com
Subject: Novels
Date: Sun, 18 Jul 1999 14:25:48 CST
>From: "Patrick Goodman" <remo@***.net>
>
>They're not. I know a lot of writers, who write good books that are >great
>and fun reads. None of them are great literature, though, nor are they
>meant to be. You can have books that are great fun and good >reads, that
>are not great literature.
>

Echo that! To me Great Literature is stuff like Shakespeare, Solzhenitsen,
Joyce, etc. We are talking really high end writing here. Then there are
the stuff that's fun to read. It's still good (damn good in some cases),
but it's not on the same level as those others.

>--
>(>) Texas 2-Step
> El Paso: Never surrender. Never forget. Never forgive.
>
>
>


Geoff Haacke
"If you not part of the solution then you are part of the precipitate."
"Never underestimate the power of stupid people in large groups."


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