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Message no. 1
From: Jarmo Karonen jarmo.karonen@***.fi
Subject: nuyen -> karma
Date: Tue, 29 Feb 2000 19:32:01 +0200
I was just trying to find the rules for converting nuyen to karma, but I
wasn't able to find them. I'm still quite sure the rules exist... Can
anyone help? I'm using the second edition of the rulebook.


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Message no. 2
From: kawaii kawaii@********.org
Subject: nuyen -> karma
Date: Tue, 29 Feb 2000 12:34:41 -0500 (EST)
On Tue, 29 Feb 2000, Jarmo Karonen wrote:

> I was just trying to find the rules for converting nuyen to karma, but I
> wasn't able to find them. I'm still quite sure the rules exist... Can
> anyone help? I'm using the second edition of the rulebook.
>
>

Nuyen to karma? I've never heard of such a rule, although I do know of a
few online places that have published variants of Karma to Nuyen...

Ever lovable and always scrappy,
kawaii
Message no. 3
From: Adam J adamj@*********.html.com
Subject: nuyen -> karma
Date: Tue, 29 Feb 2000 10:40:56 -0700
At 19:32 2/29/00 +0200, Jarmo Karonen wrote:
>I was just trying to find the rules for converting nuyen to karma, but I
>wasn't able to find them. I'm still quite sure the rules exist... Can
>anyone help? I'm using the second edition of the rulebook.

They're in the companion, but not in the core rules. Page 78 in the 2nd
edition Companion. It boils down to "whatever the GM thinks is appropriate.

Adam
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Message no. 4
From: 00dna 00dna@*****************.com
Subject: nuyen -> karma
Date: Tue, 29 Feb 2000 12:46:21 -0500
From: "Jarmo Karonen" <jarmo.karonen@***.fi>
>I was just trying to find the rules for converting nuyen to karma, but
>wasn't able to find them. I'm still quite sure the rules exist... Can
>anyone help? I'm using the second edition of the rulebook.

That's in the companion, I do believe. I don't have the book with me so I cant' read it
off to you but that's where it is if you have the book.



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Message no. 5
From: Dave Mowbray dave_mowbray@*****.com
Subject: nuyen -> karma
Date: Tue, 29 Feb 2000 12:52:35 -0500
Jarmo wrote:
>
> I was just trying to find the rules for converting nuyen to
> karma, but I
> wasn't able to find them. I'm still quite sure the rules exist... Can
> anyone help? I'm using the second edition of the rulebook.
>

I believe that this was an option only for magically active characters for
whom, I believe, the exchange rate was 10,000 to 1 (or whatever the GM
allowed).
-Dave
Message no. 6
From: Jarmo Karonen jarmo.karonen@***.fi
Subject: nuyen -> karma
Date: Tue, 29 Feb 2000 19:57:09 +0200
Adam J. wrote:

>At 19:32 2/29/00 +0200, Jarmo Karonen wrote:
> >I was just trying to find the rules for converting nuyen to karma,
but I
> >wasn't able to find them. I'm still quite sure the rules exist... Can
> >anyone help? I'm using the second edition of the rulebook.
>
>They're in the companion, but not in the core rules. Page 78 in the 2nd
>edition Companion. It boils down to "whatever the GM thinks is
appropriate.


You know what: I haven't even seen the companion... So I guess that that
rule was something that I've heard somewhere, not seen.

Anyway, I think that that rule makes sense. With money you can buy
training -> nuyen turns into karma. Then of course training takes
time...


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Message no. 7
From: waylex1 waylex1@**************.co.uk
Subject: nuyen -> karma
Date: Tue, 29 Feb 2000 18:11:55 +0000
> >At 19:32 2/29/00 +0200, Jarmo Karonen wrote:
> > >I was just trying to find the rules for converting nuyen to karma,
> but I
> > >wasn't able to find them. I'm still quite sure the rules exist... Can
> > >anyone help? I'm using the second edition of the rulebook.
> >
> >They're in the companion, but not in the core rules. Page 78 in the 2nd
> >edition Companion. It boils down to "whatever the GM thinks is
> appropriate.
>
> You know what: I haven't even seen the companion... So I guess that that
> rule was something that I've heard somewhere, not seen.
>
> Anyway, I think that that rule makes sense. With money you can buy
> training -> nuyen turns into karma. Then of course training takes
> time...

The rules also symbolise such things as donating money to good causes and
chairities, and otherwise contributing to the well being of others ahhhhh!
This goes back to the what goes around comes around aspect of karma.
Message no. 8
From: Jarmo Karonen jarmo.karonen@***.fi
Subject: nuyen -> karma
Date: Tue, 29 Feb 2000 20:15:32 +0200
waylex1 wrote:

>The rules also symbolise such things as donating money to good causes
and
>chairities, and otherwise contributing to the well being of others
ahhhhh!
>This goes back to the what goes around comes around aspect of karma.

By donating money you learn new skills... That sounds quite funny... :)
Of course I understand the reasoning.


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Message no. 9
From: Lady Jestyr jestyr@*********.html.com
Subject: nuyen -> karma
Date: Wed, 01 Mar 2000 16:42:08 +1000
>The rules also symbolise such things as donating money to good causes and
>chairities, and otherwise contributing to the well being of others ahhhhh!
>This goes back to the what goes around comes around aspect of karma.

Dear Lord... my character should be a karma goddess by now, then. We just
hit a HUGE score (multi-millions) in game, and she's spent 90% of her share
on other people - cybersurgery for a couple of gang members that she's
trying to help up off the streets; rescuing an ex-hooker from being raped,
and setting her up in a nice home; donating money to charity,
poverty-stricken friends, and random people on the street like it's going
out of style.

Partly it's an in-character thing; she's something of a good samaritan, and
after buying herself some new IDs and a nice new car, she was happy - what
better use for the rest of the money, than to make others happy?

Partly it's an out-of-character thing; I knew that having millions on hand
might make the character a bit less playable so I set out to get rid of as
much of it as I could on stuff that wouldn't unbalance the game. I think I
succeeded.

But given that she has so far given about five million nuyen to worthy
causes, in the last two weeks in-game, how much karma should that have
racked up for her?! Man, I'm so glad we're not using the karma-for-cash rules.

Lady Jestyr
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Message no. 10
From: Mark A Shieh SHODAN+@***.EDU
Subject: nuyen -> karma
Date: Wed, 1 Mar 2000 09:33:01 -0500 (EST)
Excerpts from ShadowRN: 1-Mar-100 Re: nuyen -> karma by Lady
Jestyr@*********.ht
> But given that she has so far given about five million nuyen to worthy
> causes, in the last two weeks in-game, how much karma should that have
> racked up for her?! Man, I'm so glad we're not using the
karma-for-cash rules.

Under my rules, about 25. I use an O(n^2) progression, tracked over
the lifetime of the character.

Mark
Message no. 11
From: Alfredo B Alves dghost@****.com
Subject: nuyen -> karma
Date: Wed, 1 Mar 2000 12:09:47 -0800
On Wed, 1 Mar 2000 09:33:01 -0500 (EST) Mark A Shieh <SHODAN+@***.EDU>
writes:
> Excerpts from ShadowRN: 1-Mar-100 Re: nuyen -> karma by Lady
<SNIP>
> Under my rules, about 25. I use an O(n^2) progression, tracked
over
> the lifetime of the character.

Oo. I like this. Can you elaborate? What's n? number of karma points
purchased to date+1? Then, what do you multiply O by? 500? 1,000? more?

[Can anybody figure out a good way make that "Ooo" sound (long double
"O"
sound, as in "loop"). I always think "Oooh!" when I see
"Ooo" ...]

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Message no. 12
From: waylex1 waylex1@**************.co.uk
Subject: nuyen -> karma
Date: Wed, 01 Mar 2000 18:50:36 +0000
Lady Jestyr wrote:

> >The rules also symbolise such things as donating money to good causes and
> >chairities, and otherwise contributing to the well being of others ahhhhh!
> >This goes back to the what goes around comes around aspect of karma.
>
> Dear Lord... my character should be a karma goddess by now, then. We just
> hit a HUGE score (multi-millions) in game, and she's spent 90% of her share
> on other people - cybersurgery for a couple of gang members that she's
> trying to help up off the streets; rescuing an ex-hooker from being raped,
> and setting her up in a nice home; donating money to charity,
> poverty-stricken friends, and random people on the street like it's going
> out of style.

You'll get your reward in heaven don't be greedy ;)

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