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Message no. 1
From: Dallandra <bz701@*********.AC.UK>
Subject: [off topic] Film of Neuromancer?
Date: Fri, 8 Jan 1999 12:27:45 GMT
I read in SFX magazine there's gonna be film of Neuromancer.

Anyone else know anything about this?

Dallandra x x
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Message no. 2
From: Tal Meta <talmeta@************.NET>
Subject: Re: [off topic] Film of Neuromancer?
Date: Fri, 8 Jan 1999 09:41:54 -0500
Dallandra wrote:
>
> I read in SFX magazine there's gonna be film of Neuromancer.
>
> Anyone else know anything about this?

I remember buying the Neuromancer game back in 1988 and reading a blurb
on the back that they were going to make a movie of it, but the
production company that had the contract folded before they even started
shooting. Of course, before I found that out, I had to listen to years
of "urban legends" about how the film had been suppressed by the govt,
etc..

I'd certainly like to see a movie version, though.

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Message no. 3
From: "XaOs [David Goth]" <xaos@*****.NET>
Subject: Re: [off topic] Film of Neuromancer?
Date: Fri, 8 Jan 1999 12:05:20 -0600
> Dallandra wrote:
> >
> > I read in SFX magazine there's gonna be film of Neuromancer.
> >
> > Anyone else know anything about this?

Corona's Coming Attractions is a good site that collects news and rumors
about films in development. Here's the Neuromancer link:

http://www.corona.bc.ca/films/details/neuromancer.html

-XaOs-
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Message no. 4
From: Tony Rabiola <rabiola@**.NETCOM.COM>
Subject: Re: [off topic] Film of Neuromancer?
Date: Fri, 8 Jan 1999 13:45:27 -0600
>I remember buying the Neuromancer game back in 1988 and reading a
blurb
>on the back that they were going to make a movie of it, but the
>production company that had the contract folded before they even
started
>shooting. Of course, before I found that out, I had to listen to
years
>of "urban legends" about how the film had been suppressed by the
govt,
>etc..



What game are you referring to? Computer game of some sort or a RPG
or what? Who published it?

Tony Rabiola
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(still working on the Fifth)
Proud owner BABY #972
Message no. 5
From: Adam Baker <apocrytha@*********.NET>
Subject: Re: [off topic] Film of Neuromancer?
Date: Fri, 8 Jan 1999 22:25:36 -0600
At 09:41 AM 1/8/99 -0500, you wrote:
>Dallandra wrote:
>>
>> I read in SFX magazine there's gonna be film of Neuromancer.
>>
>> Anyone else know anything about this?
>
>I remember buying the Neuromancer game back in 1988 and reading a blurb
>on the back that they were going to make a movie of it, but the
>production company that had the contract folded before they even started
>shooting. Of course, before I found that out, I had to listen to years
>of "urban legends" about how the film had been suppressed by the govt,
>etc..
>
>I'd certainly like to see a movie version, though.
>
>--
>talmeta@************.net - Heretic & Dilettante
>ICQ - 12594453
>AIM - talmeta1
>Homepage - <http://members.xoom.com/talmeta>;
>
>
Neuromancer film? I know that Count Zero is coming out within a year
directed by Michael Mann (the guy who did Miami Vice) and its going to be
called the Zen Differential. Also the movie of New Rose Hotel has come out
which is suppose to be fucking awful. It has Christopher Walken in it.
Message no. 6
From: Gurth <gurth@******.NL>
Subject: Re: [off topic] Film of Neuromancer?
Date: Sat, 9 Jan 1999 11:43:46 +0100
According to Tal Meta, at 9:41 on 8 Jan 99, the word on
the street was...

> I'd certainly like to see a movie version, though.

Just as long as it's better and more true to the book than Johnny Mnemonic
was... A couple of months ago I finally watched it (after years of
resistance) when it was on TV, and my conclusion is that apart from the
name and a small part of the plot, it had nothing to do with the short
story whatsoever; so it's as a generic SF movie it was okay, while as a
novel adaptation it sucked big-time.

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Message no. 7
From: Lady Jestyr <jestyr@*******.COM.AU>
Subject: Re: [off topic] Film of Neuromancer?
Date: Sat, 9 Jan 1999 23:04:13 +1000
>Just as long as it's better and more true to the book than Johnny Mnemonic
>was... A couple of months ago I finally watched it (after years of
>resistance) when it was on TV, and my conclusion is that apart from the
>name and a small part of the plot, it had nothing to do with the short
>story whatsoever; so it's as a generic SF movie it was okay, while as a
>novel adaptation it sucked big-time.

Well, William Gibson wrote the screenplay, so _he_ must have been happy
with it. (I agree with you though. No Molly, no Killing Floor, Ralfi
sucked... 'bout the only good bit was Henry Rollins.)

Lady Jestyr

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Message no. 8
From: Oliver McDonald <oliver@****.SPYDERNET.COM>
Subject: Re: [off topic] Film of Neuromancer?
Date: Sat, 9 Jan 1999 14:28:58 -0800
On Sat, 9 Jan 1999 23:04:13 +1000, Lady Jestyr wrote:

>Well, William Gibson wrote the screenplay, so _he_ must have been happy
>with it. (I agree with you though. No Molly, no Killing Floor, Ralfi
>sucked... 'bout the only good bit was Henry Rollins.)

Gibson replaced Molly with the 'chick' that helped out Johnny. The killing floor was
replaced by the bridge and the bugs... Molly was taken out because she was too
complex a character for a movie.
Message no. 9
From: Lady Jestyr <jestyr@*******.COM.AU>
Subject: Re: [off topic] Film of Neuromancer?
Date: Sun, 10 Jan 1999 10:16:26 +1000
>>Well, William Gibson wrote the screenplay, so _he_ must have been happy
>>with it. (I agree with you though. No Molly, no Killing Floor, Ralfi
>>sucked... 'bout the only good bit was Henry Rollins.)
>
>Gibson replaced Molly with the 'chick' that helped out Johnny. The
killing floor was
>replaced by the bridge and the bugs...

Well duh. It's not hard to spot what they were replaced with, but that's
not my point. My point is that the movie was less good IMO, because they
_were_ replaced.

> Molly was taken out because she was too
>complex a character for a movie.

Ahem. I'd say you could develop a character in a 2 hour movie at least as
well as you can in a short story. (Yes, I know she appears in Gibson's
other books, but we're not talking about those - treating J.M. as a
standalone entity, I'd say the movie could have developed her character at
least as well as the short story did.)

Lady Jestyr

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Message no. 10
From: Patrick Goodman <remo@***.NET>
Subject: Re: [off topic] Film of Neuromancer?
Date: Sun, 10 Jan 1999 22:40:50 -0600
From: Lady Jestyr
Sent: Saturday, January 09, 1999 6:16 PM

>> Molly was taken out because she was too complex a character
>>for a movie.
>
>Ahem. I'd say you could develop a character in a 2 hour movie at least
>as well as you can in a short story. (Yes, I know she appears in
>Gibson's other books, but we're not talking about those - treating J.M.
>as a standalone entity, I'd say the movie could have developed her
>character at least as well as the short story did.)

My Lady, did you and the fellow you were chatting with really just put
"character development" and "William Gibson" in the same paragraph,
and
almost in the same breath? I think there's a law against that on file
somewhere in the UN, I'm almost sure of it....

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Message no. 11
From: Blackadder <blkadder@****.NET>
Subject: Re: [off topic] Film of Neuromancer?
Date: Sun, 10 Jan 1999 23:47:04 -0500
|Patrick Goodman said-----
|My Lady, did you and the fellow you were chatting with really just
put
|"character development" and "William Gibson" in the same paragraph,
and
|almost in the same breath? I think there's a law against that on
file
|somewhere in the UN, I'm almost sure of it....
|
|--
|(>) Texas 2-Step
| El Paso: Never surrender. Never forget. Never forgive.



-----Blackadder Added-----
HEY! I LIKE GIBSON! And I think he does wonderful character
development, thank you.
Just had to say that. In the words of Popeye, 'That's all I ken
stans'. I ken stans' no more! ;-}
Message no. 12
From: Patrick Goodman <remo@***.NET>
Subject: Re: [off topic] Film of Neuromancer?
Date: Sun, 10 Jan 1999 23:50:53 -0600
From: Blackadder
Sent: Sunday, January 10, 1999 10:47 PM

>|Patrick Goodman said-----
>|My Lady, did you and the fellow you were chatting with really
>|just put "character development" and "William Gibson" in the
>|same paragraph, and almost in the same breath? I think there's
>|a law against that on file somewhere in the UN, I'm almost sure
>|of it....
>
>HEY! I LIKE GIBSON!

You're welcome to him, Victor.

>And I think he does wonderful character development, thank you.

And I think he couldn't write his way out of a damp paper bag if you
gave him a sharp pencil and a penknife. (Being published does not, by
necessity, indicate talent; witness Piers Anthony and L. Ron Hubbard, to
name a couple of prime examples.)

To each their own, I suppose, but if there's never a film version of
NEUROMANCER, it won't break my heart.

--
(>) Texas 2-Step
El Paso: Never surrender. Never forget. Never forgive.
Message no. 13
From: Dallandra's Futures <bz701@*********.AC.UK>
Subject: Re: [off topic] Film of Neuromancer?
Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1999 14:43:24 GMT
<snipped in the name of shortness>

>
> And I think he couldn't write his way out of a damp paper bag if you
> gave him a sharp pencil and a penknife. (Being published does not, by
> necessity, indicate talent; witness Piers Anthony and L. Ron Hubbard, to
> name a couple of prime examples.)

Erm, I've only read Neuromancer and I thought it lacked descriptive
writing which made it difficult to follow.

Maybe it's because I'm not used to novels of this type, I'm a very
picky Fantasy fan (fave author Katharine Kerr, try Palace which she
wrote with Mark Kreighbaum or her Deverry series) but I felt that the
difficulty following the book was a nasty distraction from a bloody
good plot.

Maybe the film would be a good idea, then I'd have an idea what was
going on when I read the book again!!

Dallandra x x x

PS I feel like creating a new archetype, or rather tweaking an
existing one: Transvestite Troll Street Sam. Frank N Furter with
warts?
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Message no. 14
From: Oliver McDonald <oliver@****.SPYDERNET.COM>
Subject: Re: [off topic] Film of Neuromancer?
Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1999 09:38:37 -0800
On Mon, 11 Jan 1999 14:43:24 GMT, Dallandra's Futures wrote:

>Maybe it's because I'm not used to novels of this type, I'm a very
>picky Fantasy fan (fave author Katharine Kerr, try Palace which she
>wrote with Mark Kreighbaum or her Deverry series) but I felt that the
>difficulty following the book was a nasty distraction from a bloody
>good plot.

The book was written by Gibson when his total exposure to computers was having seen
a Mac once. He had, however, had some more extensive exposure to the punk lifestyle.
He simply put together a scenario that involved a lot of technobable and punk style. I
found it very easy to follow, but then, I had been a bit of a technogeek for several years
prior to reading it.

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