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Message no. 1
From: Arclight arclight@*********.de
Subject: OICW (was: RE: Questions of great importance (Steve, Jon, RA:S people especially))
Date: Thu, 9 Sep 1999 14:02:41 +0200
And finally, IronRaven expressed himself by writing:

> I am somewhat familiar with the system's capabilities. My biggest
> objection is to making the grenade launcher the primary weapon,
> rather than
> the carbine component.

As the clip capacity is only 6 rounds, IMO the GL comes second.
Another argument would be the amount of time you need to make full use
of the weapons capabilities. You have to get the distance, then aim
again, if you switch targets each shot and want airbursts.

<snip>

> I can tell, it is not really suitable for indirect fire. It also seems
> likely that you can sabotage that oh-so-critical range finder, and that
> making a sesor to detect would be very easy- there goes the concept of
> ambushes.

The GL is a direct-fire one, yes. 1 click effective range, BTW.
On the topic of ambush, you switch to contact-mode. You don't have to
use the RF, just aim and pull trigger.

> Now, if the Army want's to issue them to replace half of
> the M-203s (one
> of each to a squad), OK. But all of them, or even all rifles as
> I've heard
> some individuals state, being switched over to the OICWs is a scary
> thought.

The OICW is going to be shipped only to SOCOM troops up to now.

<snip>

> Actually, quite a bit more than the -16A2, even with an
> M-203 under it,
> IIRC. And a hell of a lot more expensive.

IIRC the OICW is about 6kg, that's 13,2 pounds IIRC.
The most expensive part IIRC are the "optics", but they are
working on it ($1,500 one unit now AFAIK).

> To me, the thing reeks of people who are trying to
> short-cut things and
> worship technology. Troops aren't smart enough to learn how to
> shoot, give
> them something that fires salvos, even if it frequently a tactically
> inferior weapon and it requires batteries to be used at all. (I may have
> red dots on some of my rifles and shotguns, but I can pull them
> off and go
> to the iron sights in about a minute, and fi thebattereis die, the gun
> still go "bang"- no can do with the main part of the OICW.)

It uses one batterie, wich can be changed in some seconds (don't
have the precise time here), and the rifle will work without it. There
are iron sights wich tritium inlays for back up, BTW.

I have an article from a german gun magazine somewhere,
so when I get back to university, I might sum it up if you want.
They took one of the final prototypes to a range and made some
shots, and there's a short history of the development too.

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