| From: | Marty <s457033@*******.GU.EDU.AU> |
|---|---|
| Subject: | Re: Or bullets vs. compound bows |
| Date: | Sat, 19 Oct 1996 18:50:53 +1000 |
>
> If you're going to try to get on a conceptual kick, you're going to need to
> toss a large chunk of magic and teh S/R environment with it...
>
Ummm, why do you think where are so many debates about how spells work,
or whether a watcher can trigger a laser?? This list seems pretty
conceptually hung up to me.
> > I do not believe that you *can* make a bow more effective than a gun, or
> > no one would have seen a need to invent a gun at all.
>
> Guns have a lower concealability for one thing. Secondly think of when guns
Lower concealabiltiy??? What kind of gun are you talking about? A
minigun?
> Not to mention, it seems to me you have more fear of a bow in your game
> then a gun...
>
Nope... about equal.
> And while I'm at it, you can be asking a metalugrist to stir up some
> orichalcum, or a surgeon to implant some Wired Reflexes, or a computer
> engineer to throw together a cyber-deck, or just simply try to find a Mage
> to ask anything...
>
Everything but the orichalcum and magic is theoretically possible; The U.S.
army is already experimenting with DNI controlled aircraft.
> > I'm not tossing the bow. Whether or not I am stupid enough to let a
> > troll carry a compound bow in my game, I *still* want the bullets.
>
> Still don't understand what you have with the Troll carrying a compound
> bow, a Sammy with an HMG can be influenced just as well...
>
Yeah, but I've only ever seen a HMG used by a PC once.....HMG's are also
highly illegal while a bow is not.
> > All of the above things you mentioned need magic to use... That's about
> > 99% of the population ruled out there. 98% even if you count the trolls
> > with the compound bows.
>
> So the mundanes may have a harder time rolling off of WILL, it can still be
> done. There are times when magic capable PC's have to take a back seat too.
> It happens. Maybe it's just the difference in our groups. <shrug>
>
That's fair enough, but my point is that the Bug City sourcebook, and any
insect hive renders samurai impotent. It's not a situation; It's any entire
city where some of the players can't do anything.
> > Whatever.... you want your troll to be able to throw knives and fire
> > arrows faster than the speed of sound, instead. I guess you can climb
> > walls by jabbing your spurs into them and levering yourself up, too?
>
> If you want everything in S/R to make perfect logical sense based off 1996
> reality, you must stay awake at nights. It's a FANTASY game, there is MAGIC
> and TECHNOLOGY we do not have yet involved...
>
I'll take logic as far as it goes, and then start to improvise.... not
the other way around.
Maybe it's my training showing through.
> This is getting silly, and I'm not on this list to argue. You've stated
> that you need to use the "magic" bullets in your game. I have stated they
> don't make sense from my GM perspective and will not be using them in my
> game. It's more than obvious to everyone we won't agree on it. 'Nuff said
> before it just degrades in to something personal.
>
Done... End of thread. Let's call it a draw.
> Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic.
>
BTW.... Your sig says it all. *grin*
Bleach
