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Message no. 1
From: XaOs <xaos@*****.NET>
Subject: Orc/Ork/Troll/Trolloc (was RE: Ork Language)
Date: Fri, 4 Sep 1998 03:34:25 -0500
> >> >would be pretty quickly disemmenated throughout Orc places. (Though
> ^^^
> Btw, michael, in SR it's Ork. Lord of the Rings (I think) it's Orc. The
> difference is copyright infringement. :)

I realize you're joking by the smiley, but I thought I'd point out that
this'd be pretty tough to defend. Orcs have been used for years and years in
fantasy novels in one form or another. Something along the lines of
trademark dilution has happened. If someone says or writes 'Ork', I pretty
much know what it is, even if it came from Shadowrun, or if it came from
Warhammer (same spelling!). Just like I think of the same thing if someone
writes 'orc', even though that spelling is used in Tolkein and AD&D. (Which
reminds me...isn't there something called a 'halfling' in celtic mythos?)
For that matter, a trolloc could almost be used interchangably for me for an
orc or a troll (but probably closer to a troll).

Another random thought... How come there are not much in the way of bearded,
mountain-dwelling dwarves in 'real life'? They're pretty common in various
fantasy novels... <---Don't read too much into this, I'm just babbling.

Does anyone actually use 'dwarfs' to mean plural, rather than 'dwarves'? I
always was annoyed by GW's use of this.

-XaOs-
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(Who is wondering what this really has to do with Shadowrun, and hopes the
woodchucks don't mind).
Message no. 2
From: Viking Lord <da_viking@*******.COM>
Subject: Re: Orc/Ork/Troll/Trolloc (was RE: Ork Language)
Date: Fri, 4 Sep 1998 04:10:23 PDT
>From: XaOs <xaos@*****.NET>
>Subject: Orc/Ork/Troll/Trolloc (was RE: Ork Language)

(Discussion of orc/ks.)
>Does anyone actually use 'dwarfs' to mean plural, rather than
'dwarves'? I
>always was annoyed by GW's use of this.

Take a vote. How many people actually think about whether it's 'dwarfs'
or 'dwarves' when they say it.

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Message no. 3
From: Chameleon <cham@***.BIGPOND.NET.AU>
Subject: Re: Orc/Ork/Troll/Trolloc (was RE: Ork Language)
Date: Fri, 4 Sep 1998 22:57:02 +1000
>Take a vote. How many people actually think about whether it's 'dwarfs'
>or 'dwarves' when they say it.
>
>Forward my Honourable Warriors!!
> Viking Lord


<snip other stuff>

I just call em either dorfs, shorties of footballs with legs:)

Chameleon, playing trolls and proud to say it

I'm Always Here, You Just Don't See Me:)
Message no. 4
From: Bull <chaos@*****.COM>
Subject: Re: Orc/Ork/Troll/Trolloc (was RE: Ork Language)
Date: Fri, 4 Sep 1998 13:42:01 -0400
At 03:34 AM 9/4/98 -0500, XaOs wrote these timeless words:

>Another random thought... How come there are not much in the way of bearded,
>mountain-dwelling dwarves in 'real life'? They're pretty common in various
>fantasy novels... <---Don't read too much into this, I'm just babbling.
>
<grin>

I worked sales at Sears for a while (Bloody suckwad job that was). One
day, I saw a Real Life Fantasy Dwarf, straight out of a Elmore painting!
Except that he was dressed more like a Biker. But he had the beard, the
bulbous nose... Everything... Throw some chain mail and an Axe on the
man, and voila! Instant Adventurer!

<grin>

>Does anyone actually use 'dwarfs' to mean plural, rather than 'dwarves'? I
>always was annoyed by GW's use of this.
>
I think that's more of an English affectation... I've seen it in other
places as well.. <shrug> Nothing the english do surprises me anymore! :] :]

<big grin at Petey, Blaze, Paul, and Spike>

Bull
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Message no. 5
From: Michael vanHulst <Schizi@***.COM>
Subject: Re: Orc/Ork/Troll/Trolloc (was RE: Ork Language)
Date: Fri, 4 Sep 1998 20:03:19 EDT
In a message dated 9/4/98 4:23:28 AM Pacific Daylight Time,
da_viking@*******.COM writes:

>
> Take a vote. How many people actually think about whether it's 'dwarfs'
> or 'dwarves' when they say it.
>
Dwarves, and elves (no elfs) though I still see elfin and elven switched
freely.
Message no. 6
From: Gurth <gurth@******.NL>
Subject: Re: Orc/Ork/Troll/Trolloc (was RE: Ork Language)
Date: Sat, 5 Sep 1998 13:40:18 +0200
XaOs said on 3:34/4 Sep 98,...

> Does anyone actually use 'dwarfs' to mean plural, rather than 'dwarves'? I
> always was annoyed by GW's use of this.

"Dwarfs" is the correct English-language plural for "dwarf;" it's
Tolkien
who came up with "dwarves" AFAIK.

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Message no. 7
From: John Dukes <dukes@*******.NET>
Subject: Re: Orc/Ork/Troll/Trolloc (was RE: Ork Language)
Date: Sat, 5 Sep 1998 11:05:56 -0500
>"Dwarfs" is the correct English-language plural for "dwarf;" it's
Tolkien
>who came up with "dwarves" AFAIK.

Tolkien had some explanation for this in the back of Return of the King.
Me, I always thought "dwarves" sounded better.

-Teeg
Message no. 8
From: The Bookworm <Thomas.M.Price@*******.EDU>
Subject: Re: Orc/Ork/Troll/Trolloc (was RE: Ork Language)
Date: Sat, 5 Sep 1998 10:59:57 -0500
On Sat, 5 Sep 1998, Gurth wrote:
> XaOs said on 3:34/4 Sep 98,...
> > Does anyone actually use 'dwarfs' to mean plural, rather than 'dwarves'? I
> > always was annoyed by GW's use of this.
> "Dwarfs" is the correct English-language plural for "dwarf;" it's
Tolkien
> who came up with "dwarves" AFAIK.

IIRC when a fan complained to him in person that 'Thats not the way the
OED says it is pluralized' Tolkien responded "Mam, I WROTE the Oxford
English Dictionary!" (which he actualy helped do, it was his first full
time job after getting his degrees. I think he spent 5-6 Years on the
project) latter he admited somthing close to the following 'I was
thinking along the lines of Wolf/Wolves, Warf/Warves, and so Dwarf/Dwarves
seemed natural. I was to certian of my own knowledge to look it up when
i wrote it.'

Thomas Price
AKA The Bookworm
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Message no. 9
From: XaOs <xaos@*****.NET>
Subject: Re: Orc/Ork/Troll/Trolloc (was RE: Ork Language)
Date: Sat, 5 Sep 1998 15:18:02 -0500
> "Dwarfs" is the correct English-language plural for "dwarf;" it's
Tolkien
> who came up with "dwarves" AFAIK.

Perhaps "was" the correct English-language plural... Language evolves, and
perhaps due to Tolkien it has again.

...And after looking at my dictionary (admittedly by an American publisher),
it has both forms listed. (And really neither one listed as 'preferred' or
whatever).

-XaOs-
xaos@*****.net
Message no. 10
From: "Ubiratan P. Alberton" <ubiratan@**.HOMESHOPPING.COM.BR>
Subject: Re: Orc/Ork/Troll/Trolloc (was RE: Ork Language)
Date: Sat, 5 Sep 1998 13:27:31 -0300
Gurth wrote:
>
> XaOs said on 3:34/4 Sep 98,...
>
> > Does anyone actually use 'dwarfs' to mean plural, rather than 'dwarves'? I
> > always was annoyed by GW's use of this.
>
> "Dwarfs" is the correct English-language plural for "dwarf;" it's
Tolkien
> who came up with "dwarves" AFAIK.
>

This is to distiguish a "fantasy dwarf" from someone with a growth
disorder :) .

Bira
Message no. 11
From: Tomus Cone <brother_1@*******.COM>
Subject: Re: Orc/Ork/Troll/Trolloc (was RE: Ork Language)
Date: Sun, 6 Sep 1998 01:23:53 PDT
Just checking, but wasn't it always "Snow White and the Seven Dwarves"?

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Message no. 12
From: Viking Lord <da_viking@*******.COM>
Subject: Re: Orc/Ork/Troll/Trolloc (was RE: Ork Language)
Date: Sun, 6 Sep 1998 04:36:43 PDT
>From: Tomus Cone <brother_1@*******.COM>

>Just checking, but wasn't it always "Snow White and the Seven Dwarves"?
>
Shouldn't that be "Snow White and the Seven Vertically Challenged
People?"



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Message no. 13
From: Spike <u5a77@*****.CS.KEELE.AC.UK>
Subject: Re: Orc/Ork/Troll/Trolloc (was RE: Ork Language)
Date: Mon, 7 Sep 1998 12:54:45 +0100
And verily, did Viking Lord hastily scribble thusly...
|
|>From: Tomus Cone <brother_1@*******.COM>
|
|>Just checking, but wasn't it always "Snow White and the Seven Dwarves"?
|>
|Shouldn't that be "Snow White and the Seven Vertically Challenged
|People?"

NO! How DARE you use the word "White" in a politically correct statement....

:)
That implies that there's something wrong with black people.
(He said, taking the P**s out of people who take offense at terms like
"Blackboard"....
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Message no. 14
From: Viking Lord <da_viking@*******.COM>
Subject: Re: Orc/Ork/Troll/Trolloc (was RE: Ork Language)
Date: Mon, 7 Sep 1998 23:56:01 PDT
>From: Spike <u5a77@*****.CS.KEELE.AC.UK>

>|>Just checking, but wasn't it always "Snow White and the Seven
Dwarves"?
>|>
>|Shouldn't that be "Snow White and the Seven Vertically Challenged
>|People?"
>
>NO! How DARE you use the word "White" in a politically correct
statement....
>
>:)
>That implies that there's something wrong with black people.
>(He said, taking the P**s out of people who take offense at terms like
>"Blackboard"....

What should it be then? "Snow Female of European Descent and The Seven
Vertically Challenged People"


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Message no. 15
From: Gurth <gurth@******.NL>
Subject: Re: Orc/Ork/Troll/Trolloc (was RE: Ork Language)
Date: Tue, 8 Sep 1998 11:11:15 +0200
Viking Lord said on 23:56/7 Sep 98,...

> What should it be then? "Snow Female of European Descent and The Seven
> Vertically Challenged People"

Well... the word "snow" might give people the idea it's about cocaine. We
should adjust that too to make it completely PC.

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Message no. 16
From: Bull <chaos@*****.COM>
Subject: Re: Orc/Ork/Troll/Trolloc (was RE: Ork Language)
Date: Tue, 8 Sep 1998 05:38:26 -0400
At 11:11 AM 9/8/98 +0200, Gurth wrote these timeless words:
>Viking Lord said on 23:56/7 Sep 98,...
>
>> What should it be then? "Snow Female of European Descent and The Seven
>> Vertically Challenged People"
>
>Well... the word "snow" might give people the idea it's about cocaine. We
>should adjust that too to make it completely PC.
>
And you can;t use female, because that makes it sexist.

Warmth-Challenged Particles Comprised of Two Parts Oxygen and One Part
Hydrogen Person of European Descent and the Seven Vertically Challenged
People.

Bull -- WHo hates Political Correctness so much that he can out PC the PC's
so bad it'll make their head hurt. But shooting the bastards is easier.
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Message no. 17
From: Viking Lord <da_viking@*******.COM>
Subject: Re: Orc/Ork/Troll/Trolloc (was RE: Ork Language)
Date: Tue, 8 Sep 1998 03:06:48 PDT
>From: Bull <chaos@*****.COM>

>Warmth-Challenged Particles Comprised of Two Parts Oxygen and One Part
>Hydrogen Person of European Descent and the Seven Vertically Challenged
>People.
>
It'll never be the same again.

>Bull -- WHo hates Political Correctness so much that he can out PC the
PC's
>so bad it'll make their head hurt. But shooting the bastards is
easier.
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I'll go find a gun and shoot myself now.


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Message no. 18
From: Spike <u5a77@*****.CS.KEELE.AC.UK>
Subject: Re: Orc/Ork/Troll/Trolloc (was RE: Ork Language)
Date: Tue, 8 Sep 1998 14:15:34 +0100
And verily, did Bull hastily scribble thusly...
|Bull -- WHo hates Political Correctness so much that he can out PC the PC's
|so bad it'll make their head hurt. But shooting the bastards is easier.

Couldn't agree more.
did you know that they even rewrote childrens classics over here to make
them PC. Enid Blytons "Noddy" books for instance used to have "Golly
Wogs"
as the baddies. Now they have Goblins.

And Robertsons Marmalade used to have a Golly wog as the trademark.
Not any more.

Stupid, petty, small minded and well.... pathetic.

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Message no. 19
From: Dom T-J <phobic@**.NET.AU>
Subject: Re: Orc/Ork/Troll/Trolloc (was RE: Ork Language)
Date: Wed, 9 Sep 1998 00:13:10 +1000
<SNIP>
>them PC. Enid Blytons "Noddy" books for instance used to have "Golly
Wogs"
>as the baddies. Now they have Goblins.
>
>And Robertsons Marmalade used to have a Golly wog as the trademark.
>Not any more.
>
>Stupid, petty, small minded and well.... pathetic.

Sorry... golly wog? Please explain?


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Message no. 20
From: Bob Tockley <zzdeden@****.ASGARD.NET.AU>
Subject: Re: Orc/Ork/Troll/Trolloc (was RE: Ork Language)
Date: Wed, 9 Sep 1998 00:12:16 +1000
>Sorry... golly wog? Please explain?

I wonder if you actually bother to read the GridSec notices. I'm not
GridSec or anything, so I'm going to ask you instead of telling you. Will
you please stop cluttering up RN with one-line comments that are completely
irrelevant to the topic at hand. RN is about discussing Shadowrun, not
about making smartarse (or moronic) comments. If you don't add something
to the discussion don't post. Simple.


- ARKHAM
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Message no. 21
From: Spike <u5a77@*****.CS.KEELE.AC.UK>
Subject: Re: Orc/Ork/Troll/Trolloc (was RE: Ork Language)
Date: Tue, 8 Sep 1998 15:20:12 +0100
And verily, did Dom T-J hastily scribble thusly...
|Sorry... golly wog? Please explain?

A black spikey haired figure with big eyes, a big smile and a red coat.
Basically, something that had been part of the British culture for over s
century that was suddenly "And evil racial slur that must be wiped out".

I heard in some schools, they even banned the nursery rhyme "Baa Baa Black
Sheep"

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Message no. 22
From: Dom T-J <phobic@**.NET.AU>
Subject: Re: Orc/Ork/Troll/Trolloc (was RE: Ork Language)
Date: Wed, 9 Sep 1998 00:54:18 +1000
>>Sorry... golly wog? Please explain?
>
>I wonder if you actually bother to read the GridSec notices. I'm not
>GridSec or anything, so I'm going to ask you instead of telling you. Will
>you please stop cluttering up RN with one-line comments that are completely
>irrelevant to the topic at hand. RN is about discussing Shadowrun, not
>about making smartarse (or moronic) comments. If you don't add something
>to the discussion don't post. Simple.
>- ARKHAM

>A black spikey haired figure with big eyes, a big smile and a red coat.
>Basically, something that had been part of the British culture for over s
>century that was suddenly "And evil racial slur that must be wiped out
>Spike

OK. Thank you Spike. And thank you Arkham.
I'm relatively new to RN. Having seen the previous several posts shift
from the topic of Orc/Ork/Troll/Trolloc to a lengthy discussion of
political correctness (which I for one found interesting but don't consider
to be specifically about Shadowrun), I assumed it wouldn't create a problem
to request a clarification of a term I was unfamiliar with.
I apologise if this assumption was incorrect.


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Message no. 23
From: Bob Tockley <zzdeden@****.ASGARD.NET.AU>
Subject: Re: Orc/Ork/Troll/Trolloc (was RE: Ork Language)
Date: Wed, 9 Sep 1998 00:50:06 +1000
>OK. Thank you Spike. And thank you Arkham.
>I'm relatively new to RN. Having seen the previous several posts shift
>from the topic of Orc/Ork/Troll/Trolloc to a lengthy discussion of
>political correctness (which I for one found interesting but don't consider
>to be specifically about Shadowrun), I assumed it wouldn't create a problem
>to request a clarification of a term I was unfamiliar with.
>I apologise if this assumption was incorrect.

Uh huh. I know what you're like in real life Phobic, and I know the level
of humour you love to entertain. Give up on trying to impress people and
start making some sense. Oh, and don't start a flame war because they hate
that sort of thing. \=)


- ARKHAM
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Message no. 24
From: Spike <u5a77@*****.CS.KEELE.AC.UK>
Subject: Re: Orc/Ork/Troll/Trolloc (was RE: Ork Language)
Date: Tue, 8 Sep 1998 15:56:36 +0100
And verily, did Dom T-J hastily scribble thusly...
|OK. Thank you Spike. And thank you Arkham.
|I'm relatively new to RN. Having seen the previous several posts shift
|from the topic of Orc/Ork/Troll/Trolloc to a lengthy discussion of
|political correctness (which I for one found interesting but don't consider
|to be specifically about Shadowrun), I assumed it wouldn't create a problem
|to request a clarification of a term I was unfamiliar with.
|I apologise if this assumption was incorrect.

No problem, and as I get called down by Gridsec occasionally for telling
people off, I suggest Arkham leave it to them next time as well.

They have something it seems you (Arkham) and I lack...
Tact.
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Message no. 25
From: Bob Tockley <zzdeden@****.ASGARD.NET.AU>
Subject: Re: Orc/Ork/Troll/Trolloc (was RE: Ork Language)
Date: Wed, 9 Sep 1998 00:57:58 +1000
>They have something it seems you (Arkham) and I lack...
>Tact.

Tact is for people who can't handle telling people what they really think -
or that really give a shit. I don't have time in real life for tact, why
bother on-line? Oh, and that was rhetorical. So don't bother answering it.


- ARKHAM
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Message no. 26
From: Erik Jameson <erikj@****.COM>
Subject: Re: Orc/Ork/Troll/Trolloc (was RE: Ork Language)
Date: Tue, 8 Sep 1998 16:50:57 -0400
At 03:20 PM 9/8/98 +0100, you wrote:
>And verily, did Dom T-J hastily scribble thusly...
>|Sorry... golly wog? Please explain?

<snipped Spike's explaination>

Actually, not to contradict but rather to perhaps supplement (geez, I'm
losing my edge...), I have been told that "wog" is British slang (and
probably old slang, unused by nearly anyone today) for people from the
Middle East and Asia. "Wog" stands for "wily oriental gentleman."
Insulting slang. I'd imagine that's why the political correctness folk
removed the term.

Erik J.

Who isn't as grumpy as he oughta be...and who really oughta just get back
to his normal URL .sig...
Message no. 27
From: Spike <u5a77@*****.CS.KEELE.AC.UK>
Subject: Re: Orc/Ork/Troll/Trolloc (was RE: Ork Language)
Date: Tue, 8 Sep 1998 22:52:14 +0100
And verily, did Erik Jameson hastily scribble thusly...
|
|At 03:20 PM 9/8/98 +0100, you wrote:
|>And verily, did Dom T-J hastily scribble thusly...
|>|Sorry... golly wog? Please explain?
|
|<snipped Spike's explaination>
|
|Actually, not to contradict but rather to perhaps supplement (geez, I'm
|losing my edge...), I have been told that "wog" is British slang (and
|probably old slang, unused by nearly anyone today)

It is. It only fell out of use over the past couple of decades.

for people from the
|Middle East and Asia. "Wog" stands for "wily oriental gentleman."
|Insulting slang. I'd imagine that's why the political correctness folk
|removed the term.

Hmmmm.... But.... Golly Wogs were black. Not yellowe or pale brown.
:)


If you ever saw anything like the "Black and white minstrel show" (Another
programme that died in the seventies due to political correctness, you'll
know what a golly wog is.
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Message no. 28
From: Michael vanHulst <Schizi@***.COM>
Subject: Re: Orc/Ork/Troll/Trolloc (was RE: Ork Language)
Date: Tue, 8 Sep 1998 20:51:21 EDT
In a message dated 9/7/98 11:56:57 PM Pacific Daylight Time,
da_viking@*******.COM writes:

> What should it be then? "Snow Female of European Descent and The Seven
> Vertically Challenged People"
>
shouldn't people be replaced with individuals, you seem to be grouping them
all, stereotyping.
And Snow? Do we use such arcaic words anymore, you know it is just a
uephemism (that is spelled wrong) for white anyway, perhaps Frosted Water
Female of European Descent ?
and I thought Challenged was replaced with Capable or Enabled

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