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Message no. 1
From: "SHANE J. WINZAR" <s702399@*******.GU.EDU.AU>
Subject: Orichalcum...a niggling question
Date: Mon, 18 Aug 1997 17:12:08 +1000
Just a small question, it has no particular importance but
I was just wondering...

What happens to Orichalcum , a supposed magical element
when the magic cylces down then? does it become inert or something?

-Tamino
Message no. 2
From: Mike Hartmann <hartmann@***********.M.EUNET.DE>
Subject: Re: Orichalcum...a niggling question
Date: Mon, 18 Aug 1997 11:44:26 +0000
SHANE J. WINZAR wrote:

> Just a small question, it has no particular importance but
> I was just wondering...
>
> What happens to Orichalcum , a supposed magical element
> when the magic cylces down then? does it become inert or something?

As orichalcum is an "impossible" mixture of materials that is bound
together only by magic, I guess it will break apart again. Only the
strongest magical items will have stored enough mana to survive the
downtime.

just my 2c

bye mike
Message no. 3
From: "Paul K. Janetzke" <paul585@******.EMAIL.NET>
Subject: Orichalcum...a niggling question
Date: Mon, 18 Aug 1997 06:30:46 CDT
You could also say that it breaks down into its component elements, gold,
copper silver and mercury. Not enough mana to hold the mixture together.
Message no. 4
From: Spike <u5a77@*****.CS.KEELE.AC.UK>
Subject: Re: Orichalcum...a niggling question
Date: Mon, 18 Aug 1997 13:10:58 +0100
| Just a small question, it has no particular importance but
| I was just wondering...
|
| What happens to Orichalcum , a supposed magical element
| when the magic cylces down then? does it become inert or something?

Unknown.
It doesn't break down into it's component parts, because there is an
Orichalcum MINE in wales.

The only "Natural" formation in the world.
(Although I tend to thing it was placed there at the end of the 4th world so
they'd have plenty to work with when the 6th came around, in preparation for
the Horrors).

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Message no. 5
From: Mike Bobroff <AirWisp@***.COM>
Subject: Re: Orichalcum...a niggling question
Date: Mon, 18 Aug 1997 08:20:37 -0400
In a message dated 97-08-18 05:43:53 EDT, you write:

> As orichalcum is an "impossible" mixture of materials that is bound
> together only by magic, I guess it will break apart again. Only the
> strongest magical items will have stored enough mana to survive the
> downtime.

IMHO, Orichalchum would become inert and would look like a dull piece of
gold, and not break apart.

Mike
Message no. 6
From: Hernandez <hernandez@********.COM>
Subject: Re: Orichalcum...a niggling question
Date: Mon, 18 Aug 1997 07:37:24 -0700
>Shane said:
> What happens to Orichalcum , a supposed magical element
> when the magic cylces down then? does it become inert or
something?
>

Without magic to bind it, it would fall apart back into its main
components.



MoonShadow

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Message no. 7
From: Craig J Wilhelm Jr <craigjwjr@*********.NET>
Subject: Re: Orichalcum...a niggling question
Date: Mon, 18 Aug 1997 14:33:36 -0400
SHANE J. WINZAR wrote:

> Just a small question, it has no particular importance but
> I was just wondering...
>
> What happens to Orichalcum , a supposed magical element
> when the magic cylces down then? does it become inert or > something?

That's a pretty interesting question. One I discussed with a few of my
players (the ones playing magicians) this morning. Our opinions varied
along the lines that have already been posted to the list (reverting to
it's components, becoming nothing more than dull looking gold, etc...),
as well as my own theory that orichalcum may actually be a new heavy
metal element that has a very, very short half-life in a low-mana
environment, but is very stable (stable as gold, silver, copper and
murcury as a matter of fact) in a hi-mana one.
However, the most entertaining theory put forth by one of my players
was that when the mana level drops to a certain point, orichalcum simply
transmutes to lead... :)
Infact, you could even combine that last theory and mine quite nicely.
Just like uranium (or plutonium, I forget which), if left to decay long
enough, it will eventually lose enough of it's protons, neutrons, and
electrons to become lead, or - in the case of orichalcum - one of it's
components, or what-have-you.
That's about all I got.

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Message no. 8
From: "MARTIN E. GOTTHARD" <s457033@*******.GU.EDU.AU>
Subject: Re: Orichalcum...a niggling question
Date: Tue, 19 Aug 1997 19:26:55 +1000
> You could also say that it breaks down into its component elements, gold,
> copper silver and mercury. Not enough mana to hold the mixture together.
>


Which, coindicently are often found together in ore-bodies.
Message no. 9
From: Gabriel <bginc@***.ZEELANDNET.NL>
Subject: Re: Orichalcum...a niggling question
Date: Tue, 19 Aug 1997 15:37:51 +0100
On 18 Aug 97 at 14:33, Craig J Wilhelm Jr wrote:

> SHANE J. WINZAR wrote:
>
> > Just a small question, it has no particular importance but
> > I was just wondering...
> >
> > What happens to Orichalcum , a supposed magical element
> > when the magic cylces down then? does it become inert or >
something?
>
> That's a pretty interesting question. One I discussed with a few of my
> players (the ones playing magicians) this morning. Our opinions varied
> along the lines that have already been posted to the list (reverting to
> it's components, becoming nothing more than dull looking gold, etc...),
> as well as my own theory that orichalcum may actually be a new heavy
> metal element that has a very, very short half-life in a low-mana
> environment, but is very stable (stable as gold, silver, copper and
> murcury as a matter of fact) in a hi-mana one.
> However, the most entertaining theory put forth by one of my players
> was that when the mana level drops to a certain point, orichalcum simply
> transmutes to lead... :)
> Infact, you could even combine that last theory and mine quite nicely.
> Just like uranium (or plutonium, I forget which), if left to decay long
> enough, it will eventually lose enough of it's protons, neutrons, and
> electrons to become lead, or - in the case of orichalcum - one of it's
> components, or what-have-you.
> That's about all I got.

Well, I thought I'd jump in here. I've read somewhere (some time
ago, some don't bug me if anything's wrong about it :) that
orichalcum doesn't change to any component. It stays the same, even
if the world is in one of it's magical downs. The point is, that the people
forget how to use it, or in some extreme cases forget that it ever
existed, only to reappear in the next high-level magic era, and
regain it's function again. So inbetween two magical eras, it would
mean that technically orichalcum doesn't exist, gives you something
to think about, doesn't it?

Gabriel "Lance Cooney" Knight

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Message no. 10
From: MC23 <mc23@**********.COM>
Subject: Re: Orichalcum...a niggling question
Date: Tue, 19 Aug 1997 09:55:13 -0400
SHANE J. WINZAR wrote:

>Just a small question, it has no particular importance but
>I was just wondering...
>
>What happens to Orichalcum , a supposed magical element
>when the magic cylces down then? does it become inert or
>something?

I would almost say it goes inert but saying it breaks down explains
the under abundance of 4th World artifacts lying around, especially
powerful ones. It might also explain why Atlantis (Thera) sank. By what
has surfaced in Shadowrun I would say it was a mixture of the two,
possibly leaning towards decomposition of some sorts.

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Message no. 11
From: Jaymz <justin@******.NET>
Subject: Re: Orichalcum...a niggling question
Date: Tue, 19 Aug 1997 19:02:25 -0500
At 01:10 PM 8/18/97 +0100, Spike wrote:
#| Just a small question, it has no particular importance but
#| I was just wondering...
#|
#| What happens to Orichalcum , a supposed magical element
#| when the magic cylces down then? does it become inert or something?
#
#Unknown.
#It doesn't break down into it's component parts, because there is an
#Orichalcum MINE in wales.
#
#The only "Natural" formation in the world.
#(Although I tend to thing it was placed there at the end of the 4th world so
#they'd have plenty to work with when the 6th came around, in preparation for
#the Horrors).

I believe that there's a mine in Tir Tairngie too, around crater lake

I could be wrong

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Message no. 12
From: "J. Keith Henry" <Ereskanti@***.COM>
Subject: Re: Orichalcum...a niggling question
Date: Thu, 21 Aug 1997 22:54:35 -0400
In a message dated 97-08-18 05:43:54 EDT, hartmann@***********.M.EUNET.DE
writes:

> As orichalcum is an "impossible" mixture of materials that is bound
> together only by magic, I guess it will break apart again. Only the
> strongest magical items will have stored enough mana to survive the
> downtime.
>
> just my 2c
>
> bye mike
>
>
On a similar topic, as more (active) magic items generate background count,
going on the same theory that 3 or more active magicians can effect the local
count somewhat, it suddenly put some credence to the "Dragon's Horde" idea.
A dragon likes to ensure it's continued existence at a certain level.
Hording such objects, and the elements that would go into Orichalcum as
well, could be suddenly explained.

Just my 2 Nickels Worth...
-Keith

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