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Message no. 1
From: Frank Pelletier (Trinity) fpelletier@******.usherb.ca
Subject: [OT] 8 years? (was Re: [OT] General List Behavior and Attitude towards FASA)
Date: Wed, 11 Aug 1999 09:55:51 -0400
Steven A. Tinner <bluewizard@*****.com> once wrote,

<snipped>

> No you wouldn't.
> Beleive me.
> He's posted them before, and people just start screaming "Munchkin!"
before
> they consider that the character is ... what ... 8 years old now?

Is that an excuse? :)

While I do not think Bull, per say, is a munchkin (although I never saw the
stats), I think too many people get away with gross munchkins on the basis
that "He/She is X years old". Munchkinism (?) is only partly stats, it's
got a lot more to do with how you play the character.

Of course, if after 6-8 years, the only thing you can think of is "Hmm...I'm
already a Shaman/Decker/Sam... I'm'a get me some Vihicule rigs thingies",
then you're already way beyond help (A friendly reminder to all those
Multi-multi-classed 1st ed. PCs out there, I know you exist).

Trinity
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Frank Pelletier
fpelletier@******.usherb.ca

"Let them hate me, provided they fear me" - Atreus

Trinity on the Undernet and EFNet
Message no. 2
From: Frank Pelletier (Trinity) fpelletier@******.usherb.ca
Subject: [OT] 8 years? (was Re: [OT] General List Behavior and Attitude towards FASA)
Date: Wed, 11 Aug 1999 11:23:23 -0400
IronRaven <cyberraven@********.net> once wrote,

<snipped>

> Whats wrong with multi-talented characters. I'd love to work with a
> rigger that isn't dead meat the minute he gets out of his vehilce or has
> his remote deck shot, or a decker that can actaully amount to something on
> the job.

I'm not talking about those. Frankly, riggers/deckers are far closer to
sams than any other class, and so rigger and deckers who can fight are much
more acceptable (Hell, my character Haze was a decker/sam for 4 years...
note the use of the past tense *sniff sniff* :) ).

I'm not saying that a character can't branch out into other areas. To take
Haze's example again, he was a decker first, then branched out into wetwork
and infiltration/B&E, which aided him in his decking job (getting into
secured computer hosts from inside, etc.). But you need to have a reason
behind it, not just "Hell, it's been 6 years, I got everything I need...
lemme buy a deck and a 'jack. Here's some karma, I got Computer 6 now".
And unfortunatly, that's what most old characters went through.

Decker/Sam... sure.. Rigger/Sam, sure... Hell, a sam is nothing but a
guy with decent combat skills, and anyone can get those. But a
decker/mage/rigger/adept? How can you get there?

Trinity
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Frank Pelletier
fpelletier@******.usherb.ca

"Let them hate me, provided they fear me" - Atreus

Trinity on the Undernet and EFNet
Message no. 3
From: Geoffrey Haacke knight_errant30@*******.com
Subject: [OT] 8 years? (was Re: [OT] General List Behavior and Attitude towards FASA)
Date: Wed, 11 Aug 1999 13:11:11 CST
>From: "Frank Pelletier (Trinity)" <fpelletier@******.usherb.ca>
>Is that an excuse? :)
>
>While I do not think Bull, per say, is a munchkin (although I never saw the
>stats), I think too many people get away with gross munchkins on the basis
>that "He/She is X years old". Munchkinism (?) is only partly stats, it's
>got a lot more to do with how you play the character.

Actually, from what I've heard and read (on the web), Bull (the character)
is really fleshed out. With family, friends, enemies, casual acquaintances,
the whole lot. I'd say that those years also gave the character depth as
well as karma.



Geoff Haacke
"If you not part of the solution then you are part of the precipitate."
"Never underestimate the power of stupid people in large groups."


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Message no. 4
From: Paul J. Adam Paul@********.demon.co.uk
Subject: [OT] 8 years? (was Re: [OT] General List Behavior and Attitude towards FASA)
Date: Mon, 16 Aug 1999 20:01:40 +0100
In article <001301bee40d$74690520$8e2efdcf@*******>, Frank Pelletier
(Trinity) <fpelletier@******.usherb.ca> writes
>I'm not talking about those. Frankly, riggers/deckers are far closer to
>sams than any other class, and so rigger and deckers who can fight are much
>more acceptable (Hell, my character Haze was a decker/sam for 4 years...
>note the use of the past tense *sniff sniff* :) ).

Lynch came at it from the other direction - mercenary who learned
vehicles and ended up rigging as well. (Doesn't deck well, though - First
Ed. program carriers is all)

>Decker/Sam... sure.. Rigger/Sam, sure... Hell, a sam is nothing but a
>guy with decent combat skills, and anyone can get those. But a
>decker/mage/rigger/adept? How can you get there?

Be called either Jenna or Gabriel ;) <makes sign of inverted cross, spits
into corner>


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Paul J. Adam

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