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Message no. 1
From: Wolfchild <nathan.olsen@*******.MSUS.EDU>
Subject: [OT] AOL (was Re: The Shadowrun Archive...)
Date: Sat, 5 Dec 1998 13:42:44 -0600
On Sat, 5 Dec 1998, K in the Shadows wrote:

> I'll be nice and say I am impressed. However...a NOTE to the all the AOL
> Visitors...
>
> Apparently there are some problems between AOL's ability to web browse and the
> new site, so have a LOT of patience if the images do NOT want to load the
> first time (or four) around.
>
> Use the right mouse button on the images and things will work out really well.
> Things for me work just fine now :)

I've heard a rumor (and I can't verify this) that AOL has begun to limit
access to non-AOL web pages forcing AOL users to surf an AOL-approved
internet. I know they've locked out sites such as Yahoo! and Hotmail
because they give free email, but if this new rumor is true then they've
crossed the line.

Makes you wonder if they've been taking notes from Microsoft, eh?

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Message no. 2
From: Matt Compton <NEWSHADOW@***.COM>
Subject: Re: [OT] AOL (was Re: The Shadowrun Archive...)
Date: Sat, 5 Dec 1998 14:50:20 EST
In a message dated 12/5/98 11:43:06 AM Pacific Standard Time,
nathan.olsen@*******.MSUS.EDU writes:

> I've heard a rumor (and I can't verify this) that AOL has begun to limit
> access to non-AOL web pages forcing AOL users to surf an AOL-approved
> internet. I know they've locked out sites such as Yahoo! and Hotmail
> because they give free email, but if this new rumor is true then they've
> crossed the line.
>

Because I never use AOL's browser, I had to double check, but Yahoo and
Hotmail are not blocked from me. I can't tell you that they are not blocking
sites, but I would hope that is just a rumor.

NewShadow
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Message no. 3
From: Rick Musci <Chocobo219@***.COM>
Subject: Re: [OT] AOL (was Re: The Shadowrun Archive...)
Date: Sat, 5 Dec 1998 17:49:28 EST
In a message dated 12/5/98 11:43:07 AM Pacific Standard Time,
nathan.olsen@*******.MSUS.EDU writes:

> I've heard a rumor (and I can't verify this) that AOL has begun to limit
> access to non-AOL web pages forcing AOL users to surf an AOL-approved
> internet. I know they've locked out sites such as Yahoo! and Hotmail
> because they give free email, but if this new rumor is true then they've
> crossed the line.

You know they've locked out Yahoo! and Hotmail? It doesn't seem that way for
me. I can load both of those pages. And I don't have any problems with loading
the Archive. AOL does a lot of annoying things, but this isn't one of them.

Steel Katana.
Message no. 4
From: Michael vanHulst <Schizi@***.COM>
Subject: Re: [OT] AOL (was Re: The Shadowrun Archive...)
Date: Sat, 5 Dec 1998 19:22:37 EST
In a message dated 12/5/98 11:43:09 AM Pacific Standard Time,
nathan.olsen@*******.MSUS.EDU writes:

> I've heard a rumor (and I can't verify this) that AOL has begun to limit
> access to non-AOL web pages forcing AOL users to surf an AOL-approved
> internet. I know they've locked out sites such as Yahoo! and Hotmail
> because they give free email, but if this new rumor is true then they've
> crossed the line.
don't know anything about limiting web-pages, but the Yahoo/Hotmail thing may
just be a "ban" or limit on email, due to the spam mail from the users of a
free service. Just an idea no one has mailed me from such an account so, who
knows?
Message no. 5
From: "Mark A. Imbriaco" <mark.imbriaco@*****.COM>
Subject: Re: [OT] AOL (was Re: The Shadowrun Archive...)
Date: Sat, 5 Dec 1998 22:39:13 -0500
On Sat, 5 Dec 1998, Matt Compton wrote:

> In a message dated 12/5/98 11:43:06 AM Pacific Standard Time,
> nathan.olsen@*******.MSUS.EDU writes:
>
> > I've heard a rumor (and I can't verify this) that AOL has begun to limit
> > access to non-AOL web pages forcing AOL users to surf an AOL-approved
> > internet. I know they've locked out sites such as Yahoo! and Hotmail
> > because they give free email, but if this new rumor is true then they've
> > crossed the line.

Nope. That's just a rumor. The only time AOL blocks access to web sites
is if you have Parental Controls set. It's also untrue that they have
locked out Yahoo and Hotmail.

-Mark
Message no. 6
From: Jonathan P Martin <devotelyapathetic@****.COM>
Subject: OT: AOL was Re: The Shadowrun Archive...)
Date: Sat, 5 Dec 1998 14:52:10 -0500
On Sat, 5 Dec 1998 13:42:44 -0600 Wolfchild
<nathan.olsen@*******.MSUS.EDU> writes:

>I've heard a rumor (and I can't verify this) that AOL has begun to
>limit
>access to non-AOL web pages forcing AOL users to surf an AOL-approved
>internet. I know they've locked out sites such as Yahoo! and Hotmail
>because they give free email, but if this new rumor is true then
>they've
>crossed the line.

I use aol and just tried and accessed the sites you've mentioned with
no problems. I haven't noticed any such limiting of the content I can
view. I do for the record use an external browser for most everything
but for the tests I used the internal and horrible one.

I've had no trouble accesssing various places that give out free
email and I've done quite a lot of looking in that area. Sorry
but move on to the next rumor. ;)

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Message no. 7
From: Kevin Langevin <kevinl@******.COM>
Subject: Re: [OT] AOL (was Re: The Shadowrun Archive...)
Date: Mon, 7 Dec 1998 09:50:04 -0500
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Michael vanHulst [mailto:Schizi@***.COM]
> Sent: Saturday, December 05, 1998 7:23 PM
> To: SHADOWRN@********.ITRIBE.NET
> Subject: Re: [OT] AOL (was Re: The Shadowrun Archive...)
>
>
> In a message dated 12/5/98 11:43:09 AM Pacific Standard Time,
> nathan.olsen@*******.MSUS.EDU writes:
>
> > I've heard a rumor (and I can't verify this) that AOL has
> begun to limit
> > access to non-AOL web pages forcing AOL users to surf an
> AOL-approved
> > internet. I know they've locked out sites such as Yahoo!
> and Hotmail
> > because they give free email, but if this new rumor is
> true then they've
> > crossed the line.
> don't know anything about limiting web-pages, but the
> Yahoo/Hotmail thing may
> just be a "ban" or limit on email, due to the spam mail from
> the users of a
> free service. Just an idea no one has mailed me from such an
> account so, who
> knows?
>
I've actually spoken with some local ISPs down here in Florida who are
banning/blocking Yahoo! specifically. It hasn't gone into effect yet, to
the best of my knowledge, but a group of them actually got together and
VOTED to do this. It seems because Yahoo! is actually reselling MCI
Internet service, after all of these dialup ISPs promoted Yahoo! for so
long, they're rather pissed. I don't know all the details, but I know that
it's pretty major. I haven't heard anything about blocking Hotmail, though.
I DO know that there are a number of ISPs down here that hate MS, so I don't
find it hard to believe that if they're willing to block Yahoo!, then
blocking Hotmail isn't that far a stretch.

-Kev
Message no. 8
From: "Mark A. Imbriaco" <mark.imbriaco@*****.COM>
Subject: Re: [OT] AOL (was Re: The Shadowrun Archive...)
Date: Mon, 7 Dec 1998 11:49:50 -0500
On Mon, 7 Dec 1998, Kevin Langevin wrote:

> I've actually spoken with some local ISPs down here in Florida who are
> banning/blocking Yahoo! specifically. It hasn't gone into effect yet, to
> the best of my knowledge, but a group of them actually got together and
> VOTED to do this. It seems because Yahoo! is actually reselling MCI
> Internet service, after all of these dialup ISPs promoted Yahoo! for so

Nope, this deal ended a couple months ago. Yahoo! is no longer reselling
InternetMCI.

> long, they're rather pissed. I don't know all the details, but I know that
> it's pretty major. I haven't heard anything about blocking Hotmail, though.
> I DO know that there are a number of ISPs down here that hate MS, so I don't
> find it hard to believe that if they're willing to block Yahoo!, then
> blocking Hotmail isn't that far a stretch.

The blocking that some ISPs do isn't because of any hatred for Yahoo! or
MS, it simply has to do with the vast amount of abuse (ie: Spam) generated
by users of these services.

-Mark

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