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Message no. 1
From: Strago strago@***.com
Subject: [OT] Brief history question (was Re: Church in SR)
Date: Fri, 13 Oct 2000 01:40:18 -0400
Mark C Farrington wrote:

> > Quite. Not only is there no one Central Protestant Headquarters, but there
> > are a number of seperate churches that fall under the Protestant umbrella;
> > they're distinct denominations with different views on theology, emphasis
> > in different areas, and widely varying styles. While an Episcopal church
> > and a Charismatic Baptist church both count as Protestant (ie- Christian
> > but not Roman Catholic), it would be very difficult to confuse the way
> > their service goes.
>
> I don't really want to get embroiled in a big theological debate but I just
> want to point out the the Baptist church is not actually a protestant
> religion. The protestant religions all split from catholisim to go out on
> their own starting with Martin Luther and his objections that formed the
> Lutheran church, thus the origin of the word PROTESTant.
>
> The the church that modern Baptist religions are derived from actually
> predates the formation of the Catholic church and was never part of it.
>

Huh? As I understood it, the entity we call today "Catholicism" descends
directly from that which was called at the time something to the effect of
Followers of Christ (or Christian) after Christ ascended into Heaven. Then Paul
and Timothy went out into the Gentile world to preach the Good News, and the
Jewish conclave remained in Jerusalem. As time passed, the followers were
persecuted until Christianity was removed legalized (I forget the Emporer), and
pretty soon after that the formal Catholic Church (after much wrangling about
orthodoxy and icons, setting up the Orthodox Church) came into existance, and
stayed consistent until Martin Luther tacked his Theses on the door of the
church, thus setting off the Protestent Reformation, the Counter-Reformation,
many wars on the continent of Europe, the exploration of a new route to India
which led to the discovery of a land mass in the way, which led to Europe
colonizing this new land, which led to more wars, which led in turn to the
American revolution (or rebellion, depending on your perspective), which
directly led to the French Revolution and riots in the streets, which led to
Napoleon, which led to nationalism, which led to the Schlieffen Plan, which led
to World War I, which led to World War II, which led to the Cold War, which
ended, and now this is where we are. So when exactly did the baptists form?

>
> Alareth

Strago

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Message no. 2
From: Douglas Browne dejaffa@*********.net
Subject: [OT] Brief history question (was Re: Church in SR)
Date: Fri, 13 Oct 2000 08:34:44 -0400
> ...As time passed, the followers were
> persecuted until Christianity was removed legalized (I forget the
Emporer), and

Constantine. Now St. Constantine, for obvious reasons.

> pretty soon after that the formal Catholic Church (after much wrangling
about
> orthodoxy and icons, setting up the Orthodox Church) came into existance,
and

It's a little more complicated than that, also involving the authority of
the Pope vs. that of Church Councils, but basically, yeah. The final split
between the two chuches was in the 11th century AD.

--Dejaffa

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