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Message no. 1
From: Ian White <dernhelm@*****.COM.AU>
Subject: Re: [OT] Centre of the Universe - was re:New Seatt
Date: Fri, 22 Aug 1997 07:56:58 -0400
At 22:28 21/08/97 -0500, you wrote:
>
>|The thought really, really makes me want to see them invaded.
>
>Many have tried, none have succeeded (in the last 1000 years).
>
ummm try the Normans in 1066, and lets not forget the vikings......
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Message no. 2
From: Gurth <gurth@******.NL>
Subject: Re: [OT] Centre of the Universe - was re:New Seatt
Date: Fri, 22 Aug 1997 21:08:56 +0100
Ian White said on 7:56/22 Aug 97...

> >Many have tried, none have succeeded (in the last 1000 years).
>
> ummm try the Normans in 1066

I think that's what Spike referred to

> , and lets not forget the vikings......

What are Normans if not vikings? Sure, people from the Normandy region of
France, but look at what the name actually means: "North Men" or people
from the north -- Scandinavia, IOW.

<trivia>A football team from a town 5 km from where I live is called "De
Noormannen."</trivia>

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Message no. 3
From: Ian White <dernhelm@*****.COM.AU>
Subject: Re: [OT] Centre of the Universe - was re:New Seatt
Date: Fri, 22 Aug 1997 21:37:13 -0400
At 05:10 23/08/97 -0500, you wrote:
>
>> >Many have tried, none have succeeded (in the last 1000 years).
>>
>> ummm try the Normans in 1066
>
>I think that's what Spike referred to

Well that conquest occured within the last 1000 years, 931 years even (give
or take a month and a couple of days)
>
>> , and lets not forget the vikings......
>
>What are Normans if not vikings? Sure, people from the Normandy region of
>France, but look at what the name actually means: "North Men" or people
>from the north -- Scandinavia, IOW.
>
Normans are not Vikings, they are descendant from Vikings but are not Vikings.
Just like I'm descendant from Pom's but I am not a pom.

Dernhelm

Caught and trapped like a fox in the forest
Or a murderer in prison.
Yet what crime had I committed?
To be human in this world?
Message no. 4
From: Gurth <gurth@******.NL>
Subject: Re: [OT] Centre of the Universe - was re:New Seatt
Date: Sat, 23 Aug 1997 11:40:59 +0100
Ian White said on 21:37/22 Aug 97...

> Normans are not Vikings, they are descendant from Vikings but are not Vikings.

Okay, then this is another case of the same word meaning something
slightly different in another language. In Dutch, "Noorman" is 99%
synonymous (sp?) with "Viking," while in English it now seems to me that
"Norman" means "someone from Normandy"

> Just like I'm descendant from Pom's but I am not a pom.

And "Pom" is...?

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Message no. 5
From: Ian White <dernhelm@*****.COM.AU>
Subject: Re: [OT] Centre of the Universe - was re:New Seatt
Date: Sat, 23 Aug 1997 05:52:56 -0400
At 19:48 23/08/97 -0500, you wrote:
>
>> Normans are not Vikings, they are descendant from Vikings but are not
Vikings.
>
>Okay, then this is another case of the same word meaning something
>slightly different in another language. In Dutch, "Noorman" is 99%
>synonymous (sp?) with "Viking," while in English it now seems to me that
>"Norman" means "someone from Normandy"
>
>> Just like I'm descendant from Pom's but I am not a pom.
>
>And "Pom" is...?
>
an Englishmen ie someone from England

Dernhelm

Caught and trapped like a fox in the forest
Or a murderer in prison.
Yet what crime had I committed?
To be human in this world?
Message no. 6
From: "Paul J. Adam" <shadowrn@********.DEMON.CO.UK>
Subject: Re: [OT] Centre of the Universe - was re:New Seatt
Date: Sat, 23 Aug 1997 14:00:20 +0100
In message <199708230938.LAA02834@*****.xs4all.nl>, Gurth
<gurth@******.NL> writes
>Ian White said on 21:37/22 Aug 97...
>
>> Normans are not Vikings, they are descendant from Vikings but are not Vikings.
>
>Okay, then this is another case of the same word meaning something
>slightly different in another language. In Dutch, "Noorman" is 99%
>synonymous (sp?) with "Viking," while in English it now seems to me that
>"Norman" means "someone from Normandy"

Actually, Gurth, "Norman" is distinct from "French", as the Normans
were
Viking settlers who colonised that area of France. So yes, William of
Normandy was more Nordic than French...

>> Just like I'm descendant from Pom's but I am not a pom.
>
>And "Pom" is...?

A derogatory Australian term for anyone from Britain.

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praiseworthy...

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Message no. 7
From: Spike <u5a77@*****.CS.KEELE.AC.UK>
Subject: Re: [OT] Centre of the Universe - was re:New Seatt
Date: Sat, 23 Aug 1997 19:17:04 +0100
|At 22:28 21/08/97 -0500, you wrote:
|>
|>|The thought really, really makes me want to see them invaded.
|>
|>Many have tried, none have succeeded (in the last 1000 years).
|>
|ummm try the Normans in 1066, and lets not forget the vikings......

OK then! Make it 931 years then....
Pedantic or what?
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Message no. 8
From: Spike <u5a77@*****.CS.KEELE.AC.UK>
Subject: Re: [OT] Centre of the Universe - was re:New Seatt
Date: Sat, 23 Aug 1997 19:58:34 +0100
|> Just like I'm descendant from Pom's but I am not a pom.
|
|And "Pom" is...?

In french, it's an apple.
In Aussieland, it's usually coupled with the word whinging to mean Brits.

Although, that's not historically accurate.
None of my ancestors have been POHMs that I know of, but a LOT of aussies
were...

POHM = Prisoner Of His/Her Majesty...

(From the good old days when Australia was nothing but a large penal
colony.)

:)

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|Comp Sci & Electronics | the Encounter suit, and I'll do the voice..." |
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Message no. 9
From: Gurth <gurth@******.NL>
Subject: Re: [OT] Centre of the Universe - was re:New Seatt
Date: Sun, 24 Aug 1997 11:18:19 +0100
Paul J. Adam said on 14:00/23 Aug 97...

> Actually, Gurth, "Norman" is distinct from "French", as the
Normans were
> Viking settlers who colonised that area of France.

Which is why I said "from Normandy" rather than "from France"...

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