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Message no. 1
From: Robert Watkins <robert.watkins@******.COM>
Subject: [OT] Crash of 1998?
Date: Thu, 24 Dec 1998 09:00:55 +1000
James Ojaste writes:
> Um, in my opinion, any moment is a bad moment to start working for MS.
> The money's good, but that's about it... Yes, I'm one of *those*
> people who don't like MS because they've nearly had a fit trying to
> decipher MS API documentation that is either misleading or just plain
> wrong, not to mention their strongarm tactics and vapourware product
> announcements. I'm ranting again, aren't I? Sorry.

The money's not that good... as I understand it, MS pays its developers
fairly low salaries (below industry average), and tops up the package with
stock options that won't be available for five years, and you lose the
options if you quit/get fired/become sane and run away screaming, etc.

(I agree... MS API doco sucks. Just yesterday, I was entering an example
from part of their doco (from the help page for the function I was testing,
no less), and it didn't work due to a not-very-clear syntax error in the
example)

--
Duct tape is like the Force: There's a Light side, a Dark side, and it
binds the Universe together.
Robert Watkins -- robert.watkins@******.com
Message no. 2
From: Oliver McDonald <oliver@*********.COM>
Subject: Re: [OT] Crash of 1998?
Date: Wed, 30 Dec 1998 07:56:02 -0800
On Thu, 24 Dec 1998 09:00:55 +1000, Robert Watkins wrote:

>The money's not that good... as I understand it, MS pays its developers
>fairly low salaries (below industry average), and tops up the package with
>stock options that won't be available for five years, and you lose the
>options if you quit/get fired/become sane and run away screaming, etc.

Ugh...

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