Back to the main page

Mailing List Logs for ShadowRN

Message no. 1
From: shadowrn@*********.com (Adam J)
Subject: [OT] Email vs Web vs Internet
Date: Sat Jun 9 17:15:01 2001
At 00:31 10/06/2001, Valeu John EMFA wrote:

>Yeah, e-mail's mail and Web access is net access.

Err.. No.

E-mail over internet servers requires internet access. The Web is not the
internet. :-)

Adam
--
< http://tss.dumpshock.com : http://www.jillted.org >
< adamj@*********.com | ICQ# 2350330 | TSS Productions >
Message no. 2
From: shadowrn@*********.com (Allen Smith)
Subject: [OT] Email vs Web vs Internet
Date: Sat Jun 9 17:40:01 2001
On Jun 9, 5:27pm, Adam J wrote:
> At 00:31 10/06/2001, Valeu John EMFA wrote:
>
> >Yeah, e-mail's mail and Web access is net access.
>
> Err.. No.
>
> E-mail over internet servers requires internet access.

Well... not quite. All that's required for email over Internet servers
is access via some other means to a server/gateway that is itself
hooked up to the Internet. I was doing email (and USENET newsgroups -
indeed, I had the second-highest number of postings for a couple of
weeks) over BITNET in 1989, including correspondence with people
hooked up to the Internet, with mail going via gateways.

> The Web is not the internet. :-)

Quite. At the time of my BITNET usage, the sysops were looking into an
Internet hookup at that time, but not for the Web which didn't exist;
they wanted it for FTP and Gopher access. (Minor tidbit: Lynx, a
text-only browser that I mainly use, was invented prior to the web for
use with FTP and Gopher...)

-Allen

--
Allen Smith easmith@********.rutgers.edu
Message no. 3
From: shadowrn@*********.com (Valeu John EMFA)
Subject: [OT] Email vs Web vs Internet
Date: Sat Jun 9 19:15:18 2001
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Allen Smith [SMTP:easmith@********.rutgers.edu]
> Sent: Saturday, June 09, 2001 5:46 PM
> To: shadowrn@*********.com
> Subject: Re: [OT] Email vs Web vs Internet
>
> On Jun 9, 5:27pm, Adam J wrote:
> > At 00:31 10/06/2001, Valeu John EMFA wrote:
> >
> > >Yeah, e-mail's mail and Web access is net access.
> >
> > Err.. No.
> >
> > E-mail over internet servers requires internet access.
>
> Well... not quite. All that's required for email over Internet servers
> is access via some other means to a server/gateway that is itself
> hooked up to the Internet. I was doing email (and USENET newsgroups -
> indeed, I had the second-highest number of postings for a couple of
> weeks) over BITNET in 1989, including correspondence with people
> hooked up to the Internet, with mail going via gateways.
>
> > The Web is not the internet. :-)
>
> Quite. At the time of my BITNET usage, the sysops were looking into an
> Internet hookup at that time, but not for the Web which didn't exist;
> they wanted it for FTP and Gopher access. (Minor tidbit: Lynx, a
> text-only browser that I mainly use, was invented prior to the web for
> use with FTP and Gopher...)
>
> -Allen
>
>
[Valeu John EMFA]
hooboy. Thanks for the heads up. I better start learning this if I
wanna change rates to IT (Closest I can figure, it's basicly Network
admin-type rate).
You get outta the loop for a couple of months and the whole world
goes tech on you....

Further Reading

If you enjoyed reading about [OT] Email vs Web vs Internet, you may also be interested in:

Disclaimer

These messages were posted a long time ago on a mailing list far, far away. The copyright to their contents probably lies with the original authors of the individual messages, but since they were published in an electronic forum that anyone could subscribe to, and the logs were available to subscribers and most likely non-subscribers as well, it's felt that re-publishing them here is a kind of public service.

Thwap!