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Message no. 1
From: Hahns Shin Hahns_Shin@*******.com
Subject: [OT] Magic: the Gathering (was Shadowrun, the collection)
Date: Mon, 26 Jun 2000 12:11:33 -0500
> alternate cover is on the rulebook than getting into character (remember
> Magic: The Gathering? I loved that game, when you never knew what killer
> card you'd get, or who would have the best deck that week. Then the craze
> caught on, and there were stacks of people with the entire collection and
> all of the expansion sets, each more overpowered than the last, and small
> time play-for-the-fun-of-it people like me couldn't get a decent game. My
> Magic cards are at the bottom of a box somewhere now). Then we would have
Hey, I resemble that! :-) As a local Magic guru, I have put in my two cents.
I didn't like where M:tG was going at first, out of the realm of gamers into
the mainstream. I quit for a few years. Then I came back, and was pleasantly
surprised. Now that the mainstream is Pokemon, the M:tG environment is very
professional, not unlike chess (I'm a 1207 rated player in Chess, if anyone
wants to play). I enjoy it more as a professional game, although I still
enjoy playing it casually. True, this cuts many casual gamers out of the
picture, but has professional chess stopped all casual chess play? Certainly
not.

> masses of very cheap sourcebooks, but they are likely to be crap anyway,
> less proper players since the good ones all moved on to something else in
> annoyance, and a lot less role playing game companies.
I thought that was the point of White Wolf. <ducks to avoid punches from
Technomancers, Werewolves, and Vampires> Just kidding... Seriously, this is
why I'm glad SR never became megapopular. Notice that there has only been 2
console games for it? As opposed to Battletech (FASA's REAL cash cow that
funds our SR books) and DnD, both of which had TV shows, a HUGE assortment
of games, even action figures and comic books. Although I can't say I'm
totally satisfied with the quality of SR books now (they used to be SO
cool...), the SR universe still thrives. SR has remained a solid system, and
will probably continue to be the RPG of choice around here.

Hahns
Message no. 2
From: Gurth gurth@******.nl
Subject: [OT] Magic: the Gathering (was Shadowrun, the collection)
Date: Tue, 27 Jun 2000 12:34:03 +0200
According to Hahns Shin, at 12:11 on 26 Jun 00, the word on the street
was...

> I thought that was the point of White Wolf. <ducks to avoid punches from
> Technomancers, Werewolves, and Vampires> Just kidding... Seriously, this is
> why I'm glad SR never became megapopular. Notice that there has only been 2
> console games for it? As opposed to Battletech (FASA's REAL cash cow that
> funds our SR books)

SR sells better than BattleTech these days, according to FASA. Not sure if
that includes the licensing, though (my guess is it isn't, so BT probably
still brings in more money).

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Message no. 3
From: Simon and Fiona sfuller@******.com.au
Subject: [OT] Magic: the Gathering (was Shadowrun, the collection)
Date: Wed, 28 Jun 2000 09:35:05 +1000
-----Original Message-----
From: Gurth <gurth@******.nl>
To: shadowrn@*********.com <shadowrn@*********.com>
Date: Tuesday, June 27, 2000 8:32 PM
Subject: Re: [OT] Magic: the Gathering (was Shadowrun, the collection)




>SR sells better than BattleTech these days, according to FASA. Not sure if
>that includes the licensing, though (my guess is it isn't, so BT probably
>still brings in more money).

I don't want to exhume that thread from a month or so ago, but I think that
giant fighting robots is much more accessabile to the mass market than
manapunk. So, BattleTech will always have more licencing in my opinion.

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