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Message no. 1
From: iridios@********.net (Iridios)
Subject: [OT] Mechwarrior movie in the works...
Date: Mon, 03 Mar 2003 22:44:28 -0500
Greetings All,

http://www.wizkidsgames.com/wk_article.asp?cid7505&frame=Company

If they're that close to making an MW movie, how much further behind
could a Shadowrun movie be?



<text of article>


FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE
Devlin to Lead MechWarrior®
to the Big Screen

February 28, 2003 (LOS ANGELES) — WizKids Media announced today an
agreement with Hollywood screenwriter and producer Dean Devlin to
produce a movie based on the MechWarrior universe. Devlin has
produced films such as Stargate, Independence Day, Godzilla, The
Patriot and Eight Legged Freaks. Paramount Pictures is in
negotiations to option the property from WizKids for Devlin’s
Electric Entertainment. “Whether I write the script, help with the
script or direct, I’m crazy about the material. This is a real
passion project for me,” Devlin said. Devlin would like to get the
movie into theaters within 24 months.

“The film, in many ways, will be a coming of age story,” said Jordan
Weisman, WizKids CEO. “It’s set 40 years after the ’Mech wars have
ended, and introduces a group of young heroes in their early 20s who
have grown up in peaceful and prosperous times.” Weisman said the
sci-fi universe he created 20 years ago was heavily influenced by
the relationships that World War II pilots developed with the
fighter planes they flew. The movie will focus on The Republic, a
melting pot of people similar to the United States, and how factions
in The Republic and forces outside of it are hoping to restart the
’Mech wars of old.

The film is being produced in association with WizKids Media, the
film, television and interactive media subsidiary of WizKids LLC.
Weisman and WizKids Media President, Marc Sachnoff, will serve as
the executive producers along with Electric Entertainment’s Partner
and COO, Philippe Maigret. WizKids Media has recently set up the
Mage Knight™ franchise with Producer Mark Gordon (Saving Private
Ryan) and is currently shopping the Shadowrun® franchise with key
studios and creatives.

The MechWarrior brand has had a successful retail run with its
best-selling novels, toys, computer games and last year’s hit Xbox
game, MechAssault. Six months ago, WizKids released a MechWarrior
collectable miniatures game that has sold five million units to
date. Penguin Putman has already released the first two of a series
of 18 new novels based on the franchise, with the first novel
selling out and already into its second press run.

About WizKids
Founded by 20-year game-industry veteran Jordan Weisman, WizKids is
an award-winning Seattle-based game developer and publisher. WizKids
is dedicated to creating a new genre of games that is both more
accessible and more sophisticated than traditional adventure games.
WizKids’ best-selling Mage Knight game has been translated into
seven languages and has sold tens of millions of figures worldwide.
WizKids also produces the comic book–based HeroClix™ line of
collectable miniature games, as well as the sci-fi MechWarrior: Dark
Age collectable miniatures game. For more information, visit the
company’s website at www.wizkidsgames.com.

About WizKids Media
WizKids Media is the film, television and interactive media
subsidiary of WizKids LLC. The Los Angeles–based company is run by
Marc Sachnoff, a two-time Emmy Award–nominated producer/writer with
over 150 hours of television and independent film credits to his
name. WizKids Media is dedicated to telling great stories through
the conversion of WizKids’ game universes into other media products.
The company also seeks to create new stories for both gaming and
media by working with top Hollywood and game-industry creatives in a
collaborative environment.

About Electric Entertainment
Dean Devlin formed Electric Entertainment in May 2001 to develop and
produce franchise-driven motion pictures, television programs and
interactive and music properties for the global audience. For more
information, visit the company’s website at
www.electric-entertainment.com.

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Message no. 2
From: shiva@*********.net (Shiva Khan)
Subject: [OT] Mechwarrior movie in the works...
Date: Mon, 3 Mar 2003 21:50:04 -0700
>
> If they're that close to making an MW movie, how much further behind
> could a Shadowrun movie be?
>

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Could be a interesting movie. It has been so long since I have
read/played/or done anything with BattleTech that I don't even really
recall much of the history or anything like that. Yo much time with
Sahdowrun and a couple other games along with work and what ever. As
cool as BattleTech and MechWarrior were/are I myself am more intertested
in a Shadowrun movie. Oh well, the is .02 yen worth for now...

Shiva Khan

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Message no. 3
From: sf_fuller@********.com.au (Simon & Fiona)
Subject: [OT] Mechwarrior movie in the works...
Date: Tue, 4 Mar 2003 17:03:57 +1100
----- Original Message -----
From: Iridios <iridios@********.net>
To: ShadowRN <shadowrn@*****.dumpshock.com>
Sent: Tuesday, March 04, 2003 2:44 PM
Subject: [OT] Mechwarrior movie in the works...


> If they're that close to making an MW movie, how much further behind
> could a Shadowrun movie be?

Very different animals, unfortunately. While giant robots have a built-in
audience and appeal to kids everywhere, elves with lasers is just confusing
to most.

But it should be a very fun movie. As I said somewhere else, it could have
terrible actors, a horrible script, and useless production, but as long as
it has good CG, it's going to do well.
Message no. 4
From: snake.eyes@***.net (Snake Eyes)
Subject: [OT] Mechwarrior movie in the works...
Date: Mon, 03 Mar 2003 23:52:36 -0800
At 10:44 PM 3/3/2003 -0500, Iridios wrote:

>Greetings All,
>
>http://www.wizkidsgames.com/wk_article.asp?cid7505&frame=Company
>
>If they're that close to making an MW movie, how much further behind could
>a Shadowrun movie be?

Anybody remember 1990's Robot Jox <http://us.imdb.com/Title?0102800>;? My
oh my, that movie sucked ass on so many levels. This producer has
impressive enough credentials, but I'll have to wait and see how badly they
butcher MW before I'd want to see them even bother with an adaptation of
Shadowrun.

~ Snake Eyes
Message no. 5
From: justin@***********.net (Justin)
Subject: [OT] Mechwarrior movie in the works...
Date: Tue, 04 Mar 2003 10:09:00 -0500
Snake Eyes said the following on 3/4/2003 2:52 AM:
> At 10:44 PM 3/3/2003 -0500, Iridios wrote:
>
>> Greetings All,
>>
>> http://www.wizkidsgames.com/wk_article.asp?cid7505&frame=Company
>>
>> If they're that close to making an MW movie, how much further behind
>> could a Shadowrun movie be?
>
>
> Anybody remember 1990's Robot Jox <http://us.imdb.com/Title?0102800>;?
> My oh my, that movie sucked ass on so many levels. This producer has
> impressive enough credentials, but I'll have to wait and see how badly
> they butcher MW before I'd want to see them even bother with an
> adaptation of Shadowrun.

Aaaah, but Robot Jox had one great thing about it. In space there was NO
SOUND!
Message no. 6
From: justin@***********.net (Justin)
Subject: [OT] Mechwarrior movie in the works...
Date: Tue, 04 Mar 2003 10:09:09 -0500
Simon & Fiona said the following on 3/4/2003 1:03 AM:
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Iridios <iridios@********.net>
> To: ShadowRN <shadowrn@*****.dumpshock.com>
> Sent: Tuesday, March 04, 2003 2:44 PM
> Subject: [OT] Mechwarrior movie in the works...

>>If they're that close to making an MW movie, how much further behind
>>could a Shadowrun movie be?
>
>
> Very different animals, unfortunately. While giant robots have a built-in
> audience and appeal to kids everywhere, elves with lasers is just confusing
> to most.
>
> But it should be a very fun movie. As I said somewhere else, it could have
> terrible actors, a horrible script, and useless production, but as long as
> it has good CG, it's going to do well.

Hehe

Doesn't that just sound like every other Summer movie though?
Message no. 7
From: SteveG@***********.co.za (Steve Garrard)
Subject: [OT] Mechwarrior movie in the works...
Date: Tue, 4 Mar 2003 17:08:46 +0200
Simon & Fiona wrote:
> Very different animals, unfortunately. While giant robots have a
> built-in audience and appeal to kids everywhere, elves with lasers is
> just confusing to most.
>
> But it should be a very fun movie. As I said somewhere else, it could
> have terrible actors, a horrible script, and useless production, but
> as long as it has good CG, it's going to do well.

I dunno...look at Dungeons & Dragons. Fairly decent CG IMO (considering the
budget), but oh boy what a flop!


Slayer

"Beware my wrath, for you are crunchy and taste good with ketchup."
- Unknown Dragon


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Message no. 8
From: pgrosse@********.com (Paul Grosse)
Subject: [OT] Mechwarrior movie in the works...
Date: Tue, 4 Mar 2003 10:21:13 -0500
<snip>
> From: Snake Eyes [mailto:snake.eyes@***.net]
>
> At 10:44 PM 3/3/2003 -0500, Iridios wrote:
>
> >Greetings All,
> >
> >http://www.wizkidsgames.com/wk_article.asp?cid7505&frame=Company
> >
> >If they're that close to making an MW movie, how much
> further behind could
> >a Shadowrun movie be?
>
> Anybody remember 1990's Robot Jox
> <http://us.imdb.com/Title?0102800>;? My
> oh my, that movie sucked ass on so many levels. This producer has
> impressive enough credentials, but I'll have to wait and see
> how badly they
> butcher MW before I'd want to see them even bother with an
> adaptation of
> Shadowrun.
>
> ~ Snake Eyes
</snip>

Hey maybe they'll hire Gurth as a technical advisor and he can quit
bugging the rest of us ;P

- Paul Grosse
Message no. 9
From: me@******.net (Hexren)
Subject: [OT] Mechwarrior movie in the works...
Date: Tue, 4 Mar 2003 16:37:08 +0100
>"It’s set 40 years after the ’Mech wars have ended, and introduces a group of
young
>heroes in their early 20s who have grown up in peaceful and
>prosperous times."


I stopped activley following the BT Storyline just after "Twillight of
the Clans" Novel Serie. So could somebody tell me what year that
should be ?

Greetz
Hexren
Message no. 10
From: cmd_jackryan@***.de (Phillip Gawlowski)
Subject: [OT] Mechwarrior movie in the works...
Date: Tue, 04 Mar 2003 17:18:23 +0100
On Tue, 04 Mar 2003 10:09:00 -0500, Justin <justin@***********.net> wrote:

> Aaaah, but Robot Jox had one great thing about it. In space there was NO
> SOUND!

Aha. the bordcomputer's had not 'nuff power to play sound effects in
battle. Tsts.
;-)


--
Phillip Gawlowski
GameMaster and GeneralIdiot
Message no. 11
From: justin@***********.net (Justin)
Subject: [OT] Mechwarrior movie in the works...
Date: Tue, 04 Mar 2003 12:17:27 -0500
Phillip Gawlowski said the following on 3/4/2003 11:18 AM:
> On Tue, 04 Mar 2003 10:09:00 -0500, Justin <justin@***********.net> wrote:
>
>> Aaaah, but Robot Jox had one great thing about it. In space there was NO
>> SOUND!
>
>
> Aha. the bordcomputer's had not 'nuff power to play sound effects in
> battle. Tsts.
> ;-)

The reason doesn't matter. The fact that someone finally got it right does
Message no. 12
From: joe_dark@**************.com (Joe Dark)
Subject: [OT] Mechwarrior movie in the works...
Date: Tue, 04 Mar 2003 10:49:05 -0700
Justin wrote:

> Phillip Gawlowski said the following on 3/4/2003 11:18 AM:
>
>> On Tue, 04 Mar 2003 10:09:00 -0500, Justin <justin@***********.net>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Aaaah, but Robot Jox had one great thing about it. In space there
>>> was NO
>>> SOUND!
>>
>>
>>
>> Aha. the bordcomputer's had not 'nuff power to play sound effects in
>> battle. Tsts.
>> ;-)
>
>
> The reason doesn't matter. The fact that someone finally got it right
> does

I like Straczynski's justification for sound in Babylon 5. When a space
craft explodes, if there is an atmosphere within it, the sound of the
explosion would be heard within it as it is dispursed into space. It all
just depends on where you put the microphone.

Matt
Message no. 13
From: uptoic@***********.net (Aethelwulf)
Subject: [OT] Mechwarrior movie in the works...
Date: Tue, 04 Mar 2003 11:12:39 -0700
<much snippage>

as far as actors go, for shadowrunners I can see the likes of kurt russel and james
woods.....
maybe clint eastwood as the lonestar detective, only this times the higher ups like dirty
harry's
methods :P... and Christopher wauken, but I cant decide if he would make a better damien
knight, richard villers, or miles lanier :P

any way, feel free to comment about my thoughts :)

Aethelwulf

ps at least I feel that anyone who casts van dam in a shadowrun movie should be shot :P
Message no. 14
From: ValeuJ@*************.navy.mil (Valeu John EMFA)
Subject: [OT] Mechwarrior movie in the works...
Date: Tue, 4 Mar 2003 21:13:34 -0800
><much snippage>

>as far as actors go, for shadowrunners I can see the likes of kurt russel
and james woods.....
>maybe clint eastwood as the lonestar detective, only this times the higher
ups like dirty harry's
>methods :P... and Christopher wauken, but I cant decide if he would make a
better damien
>knight, richard villers, or miles lanier :P

>any way, feel free to comment about my thoughts :)

>Aethelwulf

>ps at least I feel that anyone who casts van dam in a shadowrun movie
should be shot :P

Ahhh come on, at least he works cheap and can be conned into doing some of
his own stunts... ;)
Just don't let him talk much or show his face that often. (He was suppose
to be the first Predator after all).
Message no. 15
From: christopherbeilby@***.net (Chris Beilby)
Subject: [OT] Mechwarrior movie in the works...
Date: Tue, 4 Mar 2003 15:11:10 -0500
----- Original Message -----
From: "Justin" <justin@***********.net>
To: "Shadowrun Discussion" <shadowrn@*****.dumpshock.com>
Sent: Tuesday, March 04, 2003 12:17 PM
Subject: Re: [OT] Mechwarrior movie in the works...


>
>
> Phillip Gawlowski said the following on 3/4/2003 11:18 AM:
> > On Tue, 04 Mar 2003 10:09:00 -0500, Justin <justin@***********.net>
wrote:
> >
> >> Aaaah, but Robot Jox had one great thing about it. In space there was
NO
> >> SOUND!
> >
> >
> > Aha. the bordcomputer's had not 'nuff power to play sound effects in
> > battle. Tsts.
> > ;-)
>
> The reason doesn't matter. The fact that someone finally got it right does
>

It did get it right....only 20+ years after 2001: A Space Odessy.
Message no. 16
From: justin@***********.net (Justin)
Subject: [OT] Mechwarrior movie in the works...
Date: Tue, 04 Mar 2003 15:13:41 -0500
Chris Beilby said the following on 3/4/2003 3:11 PM:
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Justin" <justin@***********.net>
> To: "Shadowrun Discussion" <shadowrn@*****.dumpshock.com>
> Sent: Tuesday, March 04, 2003 12:17 PM
> Subject: Re: [OT] Mechwarrior movie in the works...
>
>
>
>>
>>Phillip Gawlowski said the following on 3/4/2003 11:18 AM:
>>
>>>On Tue, 04 Mar 2003 10:09:00 -0500, Justin <justin@***********.net>
>
> wrote:
>
>>>>Aaaah, but Robot Jox had one great thing about it. In space there was
>
> NO
>
>>>>SOUND!
>>>
>>>
>>>Aha. the bordcomputer's had not 'nuff power to play sound effects in
>>>battle. Tsts.
>>>;-)
>>
>>The reason doesn't matter. The fact that someone finally got it right does
>>
>
>
> It did get it right....only 20+ years after 2001: A Space Odessy.


yeah, but I slept through that movie
Message no. 17
From: SteveG@***********.co.za (Steve Garrard)
Subject: [OT] Mechwarrior movie in the works...
Date: Wed, 5 Mar 2003 10:05:58 +0200
Justin wrote:
> Phillip Gawlowski said the following on 3/4/2003 11:18 AM:
> > On Tue, 04 Mar 2003 10:09:00 -0500, Justin <justin@***********.net>
> > wrote:
> >
> >> Aaaah, but Robot Jox had one great thing about it. In
> space there was
> >> NO SOUND!
> >
> >
> > Aha. the bordcomputer's had not 'nuff power to play sound effects in
> > battle. Tsts.
> > ;-)
>
> The reason doesn't matter. The fact that someone finally got
> it right does

Hmm yes, the age-old debate of why Hollywood insists on adding all those
annoyingly unrealistic SFX to space battle scenes. But IMO, and I think the
opinion of the general mass audience out there, is that while sacrificing
realism, you are adding to the atmosphere (no pun intended) of the scene. It
would be fine for visually-oriented people to watch, for example, the Death
Star attack in Episode IV without SFX (although enormously boring), but
auditory people would probably watch for about 10 seconds before totally
losing interest (or just becoming increasingly annoyed).


Slayer

"Beware my wrath, for you are crunchy and taste good with ketchup."
- Unknown Dragon


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Message no. 18
From: Tony.Garbutt@*************.co.uk (Tony Garbutt)
Subject: [OT] Mechwarrior movie in the works...
Date: Wed, 5 Mar 2003 09:12:41 -0000
Mr B wrote

>I like Straczynski's justification for sound in Babylon 5. When a space
>craft explodes, if there is an atmosphere within it, the sound of the
>explosion would be heard within it as it is dispursed into space. It all >just
depends on where you put the microphone.
>
>Matt

Never mind the sound justification. It was nice seeing space battles being played out as
something more then a world war 2 dog fight. None of this burning all your thrusters to
get behind your opponent. More a case of get moving then turn your thrusters off and just
point where you want to shoot.


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Message no. 19
From: cmd_jackryan@***.de (Phillip Gawlowski)
Subject: [OT] Mechwarrior movie in the works...
Date: Wed, 05 Mar 2003 11:17:21 +0100
On Tue, 04 Mar 2003 12:17:27 -0500, Justin <justin@***********.net> wrote:


> The reason doesn't matter. The fact that someone finally got it right
> does

>From our technological Point of View, that might be correct.
But considering how much computing power has grown
(has anybody compared 286 vs 686?), I think it is illogical
that there is no sound in a battle.

In fact, the human needs sound to orient itself, as well as vision.
But unlike vision, hearing works 360 degrees, and the ob-board computers
would have been adapted to suit this.

--
Phillip Gawlowski
GameMaster and GeneralIdiot
Message no. 20
From: psycho@*********.co.nz (Keith Duthie)
Subject: [OT] Mechwarrior movie in the works...
Date: Wed, 5 Mar 2003 23:56:52 +1300 (NZDT)
On Tue, 4 Mar 2003, Aethelwulf wrote:

> ps at least I feel that anyone who casts van dam in a shadowrun movie
> should be shot :P

Actually, I think he'd be very good in a shadowrun movie. At least, as the
character who gets melted by a toxic wave spell during the first couple of
minutes.

I'd pay to see that ;-)
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Message no. 21
From: ValeuJ@*************.navy.mil (Valeu John EMFA)
Subject: [OT] Mechwarrior movie in the works...
Date: Tue, 4 Mar 2003 21:09:52 -0800
>>>> Aaaah, but Robot Jox had one great thing about it. In space there
> >>>> was NO
> >>>> SOUND!
>>>
> >>>
> >>>
>>> Aha. the bordcomputer's had not 'nuff power to play sound effects in
>>> battle. Tsts.
> >>> ;-)
> >>
>>
> >> The reason doesn't matter. The fact that someone finally got it right
> >> does
>
>I like Straczynski's justification for sound in Babylon 5. When a space
>craft explodes, if there is an atmosphere within it, the sound of the
>explosion would be heard within it as it is dispursed into space. It all
>just depends on where you put the microphone.

Hmmm.... being overseas, you get to see interesting things. If they do this
Mechwarrior movie like the first Gundam series (where the cool robots are
not the main focus, but rather a tool used by the character to achieve his
ends) then it could work. Of course I'll have to see how that live action
Gundam movie did first...
(for those wondering, it was put out by Bandai, done in english, has live
actors with CGI Mecha.)
Message no. 22
From: loneeagle@********.co.uk (Lone Eagle)
Subject: [OT] Mechwarrior movie in the works...
Date: Wed, 05 Mar 2003 17:57:32 +0000
At 08:05 AM 5/3/2003, Slayer wrote:
> > The reason doesn't matter. The fact that someone finally got
> > it right does
>
>Hmm yes, the age-old debate of why Hollywood insists on adding all those
>annoyingly unrealistic SFX to space battle scenes. But IMO, and I think the
>opinion of the general mass audience out there, is that while sacrificing
>realism, you are adding to the atmosphere (no pun intended) of the scene. It
>would be fine for visually-oriented people to watch, for example, the Death
>Star attack in Episode IV without SFX (although enormously boring), but
>auditory people would probably watch for about 10 seconds before totally
>losing interest (or just becoming increasingly annoyed).

One possible explanation* (which works with the TIE fighter at least) is this:
The engines in Star Wars are Ion based (or rather they're called Ion
Engines) Ions are charged particles and when a charge moves it creates a
magnetic field, Therefore the engines on a Star Destroyer or a starfighter
put out a considerable magnetic field.
Microphones work on the reverse principle, a magnet moving in a coil
creates a current. Magnets and magnetic fields interact therefore the
microphones pick up the ionic disturbance created by the engines which the
speakers then translate into sound.
Laser fire is more difficult but...

* Oh, did I say explanation, I meant excuse <Grin>


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