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Message no. 1
From: Jeremy Reaban <jer@******.COM>
Subject: OT: Message Editing (Was Re: Cyberware and Natural abilities)
Date: Sat, 15 Nov 1997 00:55:41 -0600
First of all, my apologies to everyone one this list but Spike. I assure
this will be my last message on this subject, and I'm only sending this one
to the list, because, well, Spike did. If the powers that be want to boot
me off, so be it, I'm not sure I want to be on a list with people like the
afore mentioned Spike.

To answer your message, I did edit the original message in my reply. I
snipped out everything but the original question (What I was replying to),
and the asker's id/email address. What else can I edit out? My reply <g>?

Let me point out, the entire message I included was 9 lines (2 lines were
'<snip>', 3 lines were the question asked, and the rest is the asker's
email address and subject), while your SIG is 11. Now tell me, who's
wasting bandwidth? (heh, we both are with this discussion here, although I
was nice and I deleted my joke about how bad your SIG is).

At least the 9 lines I included have a good purpose, and in fact, in the
6-7 other mailing lists I've belonged or belong to, it is standard
practice, to clear up any confusion as to who said what, which can end up
causing problems in long threads. And it shows that I'm not taking anything
out of context (also a big problem in long threads or in a heated debate)

As to putting the original message afterwards, it's a function of my email
program. Quite frankly, I like it - I find it much more legible. I could
point out several recent examples in this digest/today's messages that
illustrate my point, where it took me a while to figure out where the
replier was talking and the original sender was.

This way, you know what I'm saying right off, and if you can't quite fathom
what I'm replying to by what I have to say, you can simply refer down to
question below.
If it were the dark ages of the internet, and everyone had to read email
line by line, I might agree with you. But, things have changed
(thankfully), even on Unix, and I don't.

I've read the FAQ, and the quoting before replying is only a guideline.
Personally, I don't like it when I read messages, so I'm not going to do it
when I send messages.
I will respect the rights of other members of the list by not quoting the
entire message, by snipping out all the non relevent stuff, and making my
messages as legible as possible.

And finally (Thankfully! <g>) maybe you should read the FAQ - it mentions
that bugging newcomers about this should be done directly by email (not to
mention, you really should change the subject to something more
apropriate). The only reason I'm replying via the list is because you did
first. If you want to try to embarress me in front of people, I'll stick up
for myself in the same audience.

Jeremy

PS If you want to start name calling, lets do it by email and not bother
the other list members further.

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> From: Spike <u5a77@*****.CS.KEELE.AC.UK>
<snip>
> READ THE FAQ! LEARN TO EDIT!!
<snip>
> Put your responces AFTER the thing you're responding to!
<snip>
Message no. 2
From: Jaymz <justin@******.NET>
Subject: Re: OT: Message Editing (Was Re: Cyberware and Natural abilities)
Date: Sat, 15 Nov 1997 01:51:54 -0500
At 12:55 AM 11/15/97 -0600, Jeremy Reaban wrote:
# As to putting the original message afterwards, it's a function of my email
# program. Quite frankly, I like it - I find it much more legible. I could
# point out several recent examples in this digest/today's messages that
# illustrate my point, where it took me a while to figure out where the
# replier was talking and the original sender was.
#
# This way, you know what I'm saying right off, and if you can't quite fathom
# what I'm replying to by what I have to say, you can simply refer down to
# question below.
# If it were the dark ages of the internet, and everyone had to read email
# line by line, I might agree with you. But, things have changed
# (thankfully), even on Unix, and I don't.
#
# I've read the FAQ, and the quoting before replying is only a guideline.
# Personally, I don't like it when I read messages, so I'm not going to do it
# when I send messages.
# I will respect the rights of other members of the list by not quoting the
# entire message, by snipping out all the non relevent stuff, and making my
# messages as legible as possible.

Actually, it's not just a guideline it's common courtesy
it is much easier to read a thread in sequence, not from end to beginning,
do you read the last page of a nvel first?

That is EXACTLY what reading a reply first is like.

Get rid of your holier than thou attitude.

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Message no. 3
From: Spike <u5a77@*****.CS.KEELE.AC.UK>
Subject: Re: OT: Message Editing (Was Re: Cyberware and Natural abilities)
Date: Sat, 15 Nov 1997 09:04:57 +0000
And verily, did Jeremy Reaban hastily scribble thusly...
|
|First of all, my apologies to everyone one this list but Spike. I assure
|this will be my last message on this subject, and I'm only sending this one
|to the list, because, well, Spike did. If the powers that be want to boot
|me off, so be it, I'm not sure I want to be on a list with people like the
|afore mentioned Spike.

*Sigh*

He don't know me too well... Do he.

For your information, I am the official list-member grumpy.
It's my job to jump down peoples throats for quoting in the wrong order and
forgetting to snip....


|To answer your message, I did edit the original message in my reply. I
|snipped out everything but the original question (What I was replying to),
|and the asker's id/email address. What else can I edit out? My reply <g>?

You still left things quoted at the end, like sig files and stuff.

Why would anyone want to boot you off the list?
It's not as if you commited a heinous crime like repeatedly sending
binaries, or being INCREDIBLY obnoxious for no reason, or advertising stuff
for commercial purposes.


Some people are just too sensitive these days.
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