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Message no. 1
From: mikepaff@***.rr.com (Michael Paff)
Subject: [OT] Message formatting
Date: Tue, 14 Mar 2006 11:28:00 -0800
At 10:21 AM 3/14/2006, Jon Gilmour wrote:
>On 3/14/06, Scott Harrison
><scott@**********.com> wrote: > > > I
>have downloaded GameTable and would like to test
>it. Anyone want > to chat for a moment? > >
>-- >
·𐑕𐑒𐑪𐑑

>·𐑣𐑺𐑦𐑕𐑩𐑯
Scott Harrison Scott:
>I am at work right now and unable to try it out,
>but I am trying to round up a few people who are
>willing to test it out tonight around 8:30. Feel
>free to email me directly, or add me to your MSN
>if you have it. My msn account is
>jonsnews69@*******.com, and you can email me at home at jgilmour@*****.com

Is it just me, or are other people seeing Jon's
messages with really ugly formatting?

Mike
Message no. 2
From: jon.gilmour@*****.com (Jon Gilmour)
Subject: [OT] Message formatting
Date: Tue, 14 Mar 2006 14:38:09 -0500
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IDkwJSBvZiB0aGUgaXNzdWVzLgo=From gurth@******.nl Tue Mar 14 19:38:56 2006
From: gurth@******.nl (Gurth)
Date: Tue, 14 Mar 2006 20:38:56 +0100
Subject: [OT] Message formatting
In-Reply-To: <6.2.3.3.1.20060314112650.01c30db0@**********.san.rr.com>
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Message-ID: <44171BD0.1060603@******.nl>

According to Michael Paff, on 14-3-06 20:28 the word on the street was...

> Is it just me, or are other people seeing Jon's messages with really
> ugly formatting?

That's caused by Scott's signature, which has his name in Shavian (?)
characters in it. I see little glyphs that seem to mean "I can't render
this character", but your quote of Jon's reply to Scott's message had
various high-ASCII characters in it instead.

What this means, basically, is that your mailer (QUALCOMM Windows Eudora
Version 6.2.3.3) is probably not UTF-capable, and renders the character
codes for the Shavian glyphs as the characters corresponding to those
same codes in a Latin character set. This usually results in multiple
characters being shown for each of the symbols that can't be displayed.

--
Gurth@******.nl - Stone Age: http://www.xs4all.nl/~gurth/index.html
Voorlopig gaan we nog even door
Op het lichtend pad, het verkeerde spoor
-> Former NAGEE Editor & ShadowRN GridSec * Triangle Virtuoso <-
-> The Plastic Warriors Site: http://plastic.dumpshock.com <-

GC3.12: GAT/! d- s:- !a>? C++(---) UB+ P(+) L++ E W++(--) N o? K w-- O
M+ PS+ PE@ Y PGP- t- 5++ X(+) R+++$ tv+(++) b++@ DI- D G+ e h! !r y?
Incubated into the First Church of the Sqooshy Ball, 21-05-1998
Message no. 3
From: gurth@******.nl (Gurth)
Subject: [OT] Message formatting
Date: Tue, 14 Mar 2006 20:41:08 +0100
According to Jon Gilmour, on 14-3-06 20:38 the word on the street was...

> I wish I could get it to stop auto quoting emails I reply to, and it would
> fix 90% of the issues.

Auto-quoting is good; you just need to trim the posts a bit so only the
relevant parts of the original message remain :)

--
Gurth@******.nl - Stone Age: http://www.xs4all.nl/~gurth/index.html
Voorlopig gaan we nog even door
Op het lichtend pad, het verkeerde spoor
-> Former NAGEE Editor & ShadowRN GridSec * Triangle Virtuoso <-
-> The Plastic Warriors Site: http://plastic.dumpshock.com <-

GC3.12: GAT/! d- s:- !a>? C++(---) UB+ P(+) L++ E W++(--) N o? K w-- O
M+ PS+ PE@ Y PGP- t- 5++ X(+) R+++$ tv+(++) b++@ DI- D G+ e h! !r y?
Incubated into the First Church of the Sqooshy Ball, 21-05-1998
Message no. 4
From: jon.gilmour@*****.com (Jon Gilmour)
Subject: [OT] Message formatting
Date: Tue, 14 Mar 2006 14:46:37 -0500
>
>
> Auto-quoting is good; you just need to trim the posts a bit so only the
> relevant parts of the original message remain :)


I'm much more used to pre-cutting the chunk out that I need, then hitting
reply. But then I got gmail and go lazy and just stopped editing them
completely because email hides quoted text, so I really never see it unless
someone quotes a past email.
Message no. 5
From: justin@***********.net (Justin Bell)
Subject: [OT] Message formatting
Date: Tue, 14 Mar 2006 14:46:41 -0500
Jon Gilmour wrote:
> I wish I could get it to stop auto quoting emails I reply to, and it would
> fix 90% of the issues.

You *could* trim the posts to the relevant potions, that would fix 90%
of the issues.
Message no. 6
From: justin@***********.net (Justin Bell)
Subject: [OT] Message formatting
Date: Tue, 14 Mar 2006 14:48:47 -0500
Justin Bell wrote:
> Jon Gilmour wrote:
>> I wish I could get it to stop auto quoting emails I reply to, and it would
>> fix 90% of the issues.
>
> You *could* trim the posts to the relevant potions, that would fix 90%
> of the issues.

The relevant portions might be more appropriate though.
Message no. 7
From: jon.gilmour@*****.com (Jon Gilmour)
Subject: [OT] Message formatting
Date: Tue, 14 Mar 2006 15:15:05 -0500
>
>
> > You *could* trim the posts to the relevant potions, that would fix 90%
> > of the issues.
>
> The relevant portions might be more appropriate though.
>

I suppose if I could do that on a reliable basis we wouldn't be having this
conversation..
Message no. 8
From: graht1@*****.com (Graht)
Subject: [OT] Message formatting
Date: Tue, 14 Mar 2006 14:02:10 -0700
On 3/14/06, Jon Gilmour <jon.gilmour@*****.com> wrote:
> >
> >
> > > You *could* trim the posts to the relevant potions, that would fix 90%
> > > of the issues.
> >
> > The relevant portions might be more appropriate though.
> >
>
> I suppose if I could do that on a reliable basis we wouldn't be having this
> conversation..

Heh. Don't sweat it to much. Quite a few of us went through the same
thing when we first became members :)

--
-Graht

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