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Message no. 1
From: Da Twink Daddy datwinkdaddy@*******.com
Subject: [OT] Mysticism
Date: Tue, 14 Sep 1999 10:23:39 -0500 (CDT)
> >are quite a few practitioners on the list. <SARCASM>Better whatch out
> >before they turn you into a toad.</SARCASM>
>
> Sorry, my gifts don't work that way. Besides, if his destiny was to be a
> toad, he would have born a toad. Transmutation of a living being, no
> matter what the reason, into a form other than thier own, is highly
> unethical, even if it could be done. Besides, most of my stuff is visual,
> auditory or based off of touch.

That's why the '<SARCASM>' tags, I don't know any pratictioners of magic
that would turn one into a toad, even if they could. Magik, as I
understand it, it usually much more subtle.

> >brought back was 'Quantum Particles: The Dreams Stuff is Made of.' I don't
> >know where my roommate stands. I think he belives (in mysticism, even if
>
> Here is somehting for all of teh Quantumists. Einstien believed (a) in
> God, and (b) in kabalistic magic (a jewish form of word magic).

Well, I knew he belived in God, but I didn't know he was a kabalist. Quite
interesting. Einstien was jewish by ancestry right? (Name sounds jewish
but, I've never heard anyone say he was/wasn't.)

Bringing this slightly back ON topic, has anyone used the magical
traditions or magical schools in thier games. I thought about it, but I
don't think MitS does justice to the believe systems in 1-2 paragraphs. If
I knew more about any of them, I would write an article for NAGEE.

I think it would be instesting for any practitioners of the traditions
mentioned in the MitS (or overlooked for that matter), to write a 'How to
RP a <foo>' article. I know Steve K has some experience w/ magik, but one
man surely can't give us a feeling of every tradition. If I had some
instight into how a, well..., kabalist, for example, thought while he was
doing his magic, or just living his life, it would be a great RP tool.

Of course in SR, magik is much more obvious than now. I think that would
have to be kept in mind as well when writting any article trying to relate
RL experiences w/ magik to SR RP guides.

Da Twink Daddy
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Message no. 2
From: abortion_engine abortion_engine@*******.com
Subject: [OT] Mysticism
Date: Tue, 14 Sep 1999 18:39:10 -0400
> Bringing this slightly back ON topic, has anyone used the magical
> traditions or magical schools in thier games. I thought about it, but I
> don't think MitS does justice to the believe systems in 1-2 paragraphs. If
> I knew more about any of them, I would write an article for NAGEE.

I played a Kabalist of the Alastair Crowley school once. It took all new
spells, virtually all of his ability was with ritual magic, and I had to put
up with saying "Love is the Law. Love under Will" a lot. But it was fun. Of
course, that was a while ago, when Dowd was in, and magic was a wee bit more
flexible, if you know what I mean. [If you don't, just ask. I have a long
explaination and a short one. And neither of them insult MM, in case you
were curious.]

And no, I don't think MitS does justice to the belief systems stated there.
I'd have liked to have as much effort put into each of those that the
Hermetic, Shamanic, and Voudoun schools had put into them. But that's asking
a little too much, I suppose. FASA has a lot on their plates right now.

> I think it would be instesting for any practitioners of the traditions
> mentioned in the MitS (or overlooked for that matter), to write a 'How to
> RP a <foo>' article. I know Steve K has some experience w/ magik, but one
> man surely can't give us a feeling of every tradition. If I had some
> instight into how a, well..., kabalist, for example, thought while he was
> doing his magic, or just living his life, it would be a great RP tool.

Well, start doing some research. If it's going to be anyone doing it, and
getting the warmth and accolades of the Shadowrun public, it might as well
be the guy who thought of the idea in the first place.

> Of course in SR, magik is much more obvious than now. I think that would
> have to be kept in mind as well when writting any article trying to relate
> RL experiences w/ magik to SR RP guides.

That's true. Much more obvious.

But, in Shadowrun, [at least in the olden days] magic was less about what
was possible, and more about what people THOUGHT was possible. [There's the
short explaination. And you didn't even have to ask. :) ]

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