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Message no. 1
From: shadowrn@*********.com (Adam J)
Subject: [OT] Re: Seattle DMV
Date: Mon May 14 16:40:01 2001
At 14:27 14/05/2001, Graht wrote:

>Not so. You can get a State ID that's as valid as a picture ID as a Driver
>License. Of course, not everyone knows what to do when confronted by a
>State ID... You can also really mess with a retail worker's head when you
>present a State ID as a second form of identification with your Driver
>License instead of a credit card ;)

I get constant shit trying to cross the border because I don't have an
actual drivers license, and just have an ID card. It's a natural assumption
that because I don't drive I've had my license taken away for some reason
or another, and thus I'm a criminal.

Adam
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Message no. 2
From: shadowrn@*********.com (Gurth)
Subject: [OT] Re: Seattle DMV
Date: Tue May 15 06:20:01 2001
According to DemonPenta@***.com, on Mon, 14 May 2001 the word on the
street was...

> Disgusting thing is that they're a universal form of ID these days; If
> you're too blind to drive, you're screwed.

Reminds me of trying to get a hotel room in the US in 1998: the woman
behind the counter wouldn't accept my _passport_ as valid ID because it
didn't have my address in it...

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Message no. 3
From: shadowrn@*********.com (Marc Renouf)
Subject: [OT] Re: Seattle DMV
Date: Tue May 15 08:35:05 2001
On Tue, 15 May 2001, Gurth wrote:

> Reminds me of trying to get a hotel room in the US in 1998: the woman
> behind the counter wouldn't accept my _passport_ as valid ID because it
> didn't have my address in it...

I once saw a young asian woman in a bar here use a passport as ID
to buy alcohol (which you need to be 21 to do here in Michigan).

Marc
Message no. 4
From: shadowrn@*********.com (Graht)
Subject: [OT] Re: Seattle DMV
Date: Tue May 15 12:25:01 2001
At 11:52 AM 5/15/2001 +0200, Gurth wrote:
>According to DemonPenta@***.com, on Mon, 14 May 2001 the word on the
>street was...
>
> > Disgusting thing is that they're a universal form of ID these days; If
> > you're too blind to drive, you're screwed.
>
>Reminds me of trying to get a hotel room in the US in 1998: the woman
>behind the counter wouldn't accept my _passport_ as valid ID because it
>didn't have my address in it...

ngah

It's amazing how many people don't know that a passport is as valid as you
can get when it comes to ID.

To Life,
-Graht
ShadowRN Gridsec, Nice Guy Division
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Message no. 5
From: shadowrn@*********.com (Damion Milliken)
Subject: [OT] Re: Seattle DMV
Date: Tue May 15 12:35:01 2001
Graht writes:

> It's amazing how many people don't know that a passport is as valid as you
> can get when it comes to ID.

Nah, it's amazing how many _Americans_ don't know that a passport is as
valid as you can get when it comes to ID. <grin> After all, America is all
there is to the world ... what's anyone need a passport for?

(Sorry all you yanks, I couldn't resist <grin>)

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Message no. 6
From: shadowrn@*********.com (shadowrn@*********.com)
Subject: [OT] Re: Seattle DMV
Date: Tue May 15 18:15:01 2001
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In a message dated 5/15/01 12:43:48 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
dam01@***.edu.au writes:


Nah, it's amazing how many _Americans_ don't know that a passport is as
valid as you can get when it comes to ID. <grin> After all, America is all
there is to the world ... what's anyone need a passport for?

Unfortunately, you're right. In the US, if you can't drive, you're pretty
much a second-class citizen. A LOT of jobs require a driver's license, as
does doing just about everything else except maybe buying food. Yes, a
driver's license. Not a state ID, not a passport, a driver's license.

John

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<HTML><FONT FACE=arial,helvetica>In a message dated 5/15/01 12:43:48 PM
Eastern Daylight Time,
<BR>dam01@***.edu.au writes:
<BR>
<BR>
<BR>Nah, it's amazing how many _Americans_ don't know that a passport is as
<BR>valid as you can get when it comes to ID. &nbsp;&lt;grin&gt; After
all, America is all
<BR>there is to the world ... what's anyone need a passport for?<FONT SIZE=3>
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<BR>Unfortunately, you're right. In the US, if you can't drive, you're pretty
<BR>much a second-class citizen. A LOT of jobs require a driver's license, as
<BR>does doing just about everything else except maybe buying food. Yes, a
<BR>driver's license. Not a state ID, not a passport, a driver's license.
<BR>
<BR>John</FONT></HTML>

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