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Message no. 1
From: shadowrn@*********.com (Gurth)
Subject: [OT] Re: Shadowrun Update
Date: Tue Apr 17 06:30:16 2001
According to Arclight, on Mon, 16 Apr 2001 the word on the street was...

> "dreissigjaehriger Krieg" (don't know if there is a special english word
> for that)

The Thirty Years War, which ended in 1648 (I don't know for certain when
it began, but it must have been roughly 1618 :)

> Well - get your books again ;) A considerable time before the Weimarer
> Rebulik germany was united, for exampel the german Kaiserreich installed
> after the german-french war of 1800somthing ;)

The Franco-Prussian War of 1870-71, started by the French (under emperor
Napoleon III) and ended by the Prussians. Bismarck took this as an
opportunity to unite Germany under the house of Hohenzollern, with Wilhelm
I being crowned German emperor in Versailles.

> (I just can't remember dates, sorry).

Luckily, I can :)

> This reich ended after WW1, when the german emperor had to resign and
> went into IIRC the netherlands as exile.

Yes, where he lived until 1942, spending much of his time walking and
chopping firewood, apparently.

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Message no. 2
From: shadowrn@*********.com (Gurth)
Subject: [OT] Re: Shadowrun Update
Date: Tue Apr 17 06:30:20 2001
According to David Buehrer, on Mon, 16 Apr 2001 the word on the street
was...

> I thought of that too, but that wasn't really a classic war in the sense of
> one nation invading another. It was more of an internal rebellion, heavily
> funded by other nations, but a rebellion nonetheless.

Yeah, and it was the Viet Cong who eventually won, right?

Not quite... By the early '70s, the NLF ("Viet Cong" in South Vietnamese/US
terms) had just about ceased to exist except as a front for the North
Vietnamese when it suited their purposes. It was North Vietnamese regular
forces who staged the 1972 and '75 offensives; the former was stopped
mostly by US air power, but that wasn't coming anymore in 1975, allowing
the North Vietnamese to win the war and establish one, communist Vietnam
(which was almost the opposite of what the NLF had originally wanted: a
separate, communist South Vietnam).

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Gurth@******.nl - http://www.xs4all.nl/~gurth/index.html
If there are vegetarian hamburgers, why isn't there beef lettuce?
-> NAGEE Editor * ShadowRN GridSec * Triangle Virtuoso <-
-> The Plastic Warriors Page: http://plastic.dumpshock.com <-

GC3.12: GAT/! d-(dpu) s:- !a>? C+@ UL P L++ E W-(++) N o? K w+(--) O V?
PS+ PE(-)(+) Y PGP- t@ 5++ X(+) R+++(-)>$ tv+ b++@ DI- D+ G+ e h! !r y?
Incubated into the First Church of the Sqooshy Ball, 21-05-1998
Message no. 3
From: shadowrn@*********.com (Arclight)
Subject: [OT] Re: Shadowrun Update
Date: Tue Apr 17 07:10:01 2001
Von Gurth :

<snip>

> > (I just can't remember dates, sorry).
>
>Luckily, I can :)

I guess you just looked it up ;)

> > This reich ended after WW1, when the german emperor had to resign and
> > went into IIRC the netherlands as exile.
>
>Yes, where he lived until 1942, spending much of his time walking and
>chopping firewood, apparently.

Jep. Quite surprising, as he his left arm was crippled since his childhood.

Arclight
Message no. 4
From: shadowrn@*********.com (Gurth)
Subject: [OT] Re: Shadowrun Update
Date: Tue Apr 17 14:10:04 2001
According to Arclight, on Tue, 17 Apr 2001 the word on the street was...

> > > (I just can't remember dates, sorry).
> >
> >Luckily, I can :)
>
> I guess you just looked it up ;)

I don't want to know what the fact that I didn't look up anything in that
post, or the Vietnam one, says about me... :)

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If there are vegetarian hamburgers, why isn't there beef lettuce?
-> NAGEE Editor * ShadowRN GridSec * Triangle Virtuoso <-
-> The Plastic Warriors Page: http://plastic.dumpshock.com <-

GC3.12: GAT/! d-(dpu) s:- !a>? C+@ UL P L++ E W-(++) N o? K w+(--) O V?
PS+ PE(-)(+) Y PGP- t@ 5++ X(+) R+++(-)>$ tv+ b++@ DI- D+ G+ e h! !r y?
Incubated into the First Church of the Sqooshy Ball, 21-05-1998
Message no. 5
From: shadowrn@*********.com (Arclight)
Subject: [OT] Re: Shadowrun Update
Date: Tue Apr 17 14:40:00 2001
Von Gurth :

<snip>

>I don't want to know what the fact that I didn't look up anything in that
>post, or the Vietnam one, says about me... :)

:) Hmh - that you have a very good memory, I guess.

Arclight

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