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Message no. 1
From: Tim Serpas <wretch@**.COM>
Subject: [OT] Roman Empire [Was Re: Elves and Humans]
Date: Mon, 21 Sep 1998 11:10:42 -0500
On Tue, 22 Sep 1998, Pete *Iago* Palmer wrote:
> At 12:23 21/09/98 +0000, Martin Steffens wrote:
> > The Roman empire lasted for roughly
> >2,000 years in on form or another.
>
> Umm where do you get this figure from?

Clearly he means to include the Republic as the
forerunner of the empire.

> Even if one were to take the fall of Constantinople in 1453
> as the final end of all remnants of the Roman empire,

This is precisely what he means. If you asked a 'Byzantine'
what his nationality was, he would have said 'Roman' without
hesitation.

Wretch
Message no. 2
From: "Dr. Faust" <apocrytha@*********.NET>
Subject: Re: [OT] Roman Empire [Was Re: Elves and Humans]
Date: Mon, 21 Sep 1998 15:54:01 -0500
Tim Serpas wrote:

> On Tue, 22 Sep 1998, Pete *Iago* Palmer wrote:
> > At 12:23 21/09/98 +0000, Martin Steffens wrote:
> > > The Roman empire lasted for roughly
> > >2,000 years in on form or another.
> >
> > Umm where do you get this figure from?
>
> Clearly he means to include the Republic as the
> forerunner of the empire.
>
> > Even if one were to take the fall of Constantinople in 1453
> > as the final end of all remnants of the Roman empire,
>
> This is precisely what he means. If you asked a 'Byzantine'
> what his nationality was, he would have said 'Roman' without
> hesitation.
>
> Wretch

People still do refer to themselves as Roman in some parts of Europe.
In Greece a Hellenic Soldier was raising the flag of Hellas and some
children asked him what it was and he said the flag of Hellas and they
said, "We are not Hellennics, we are Romans."

--
"that is not dead which can eternal lie, And with strange aeons even
death may die."
-H.P. Lovecraft, "The Call of Cthulhu."
Message no. 3
From: Pete *Iago* Palmer <peter@***********.NET.NZ>
Subject: [OT] Roman Empire [Was Re: Elves and Humans]
Date: Tue, 22 Sep 1998 10:14:37 +1200
Actually I should apologise, I posted without taking a breath
and cooling off after a pretty virulent discussion on another list.

My post was uncalled for and irrelevant to the list.

Pete Palmer

At 12:46 21/09/98 EDT, you wrote:
>In a message dated 9/21/98 4:13:03 AM, Peter wrote:
>
>>If you are going to make historical comparisons, try to get
>>some accuracy please..
>
>Pete, as your own post indicates, there are a lot of possible start and end
>points for Rome. You're right in questioning the length of time, but it's not
>as if the original poster said that Rome was founded in Turkey or something.
>He doesn't need quite that high a degree of flame-age. My two cents.
>
>ST
>
Message no. 4
From: Martin Steffens <chimerae@***.IE>
Subject: Re: [OT] Roman Empire [Was Re: Elves and Humans]
Date: Mon, 21 Sep 1998 23:32:22 +0000
and thus did Pete *Iago* Palmer speak on 22 Sep 98 at 10:14:

> Actually I should apologise, I posted without taking a breath
> and cooling off after a pretty virulent discussion on another list.

In that case consider my posts not send. I must admit that affairs at
home did put me too much on the defensive in this, and subsequently
apologize for my reply.

(Well I did wait three hours before sending, but when everything goes
wrong I guess that's not long enough... :)


Martin Steffens
chimerae@***.ie

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