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Message no. 1
From: owen@***.edu.au (Owen McKerrow)
Subject: OT : Sony Patents the Matrix ??
Date: Fri, 8 Apr 2005 09:31:39 +1000
From Slashdot....

Reuters is reporting that Sony has been granted 2 patents, both
describing 'Method and system for generating sensory data onto the
human neural cortex'. These are patents 6,729,337 and 6,536,440. The
patents go on to 'describe a technique for aiming ultrasonic pulses at
specific areas of the brain to induce sensory experiences such as
smells, sounds and images'. The story was first broken by New Scientist
magazine." Commentary also available via Ars Technica.

http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&cidX1&e=4&u=/nm/20050406/
tc_nm/tech_sony_brain_dc

http://patft.uspto.gov/netacgi/nph-Parser?
Sect1=PTO2&Sect2=HITOFF&p=1&u=/netahtml/search-
bool.html&r=1&f=G&lP&co1=AND&d=ptxt&s1g29337.WKU.&OS=PN/

6729337&RS=PN/6729337

http://patft.uspto.gov/netacgi/nph-Parser?
Sect1=PTO2&Sect2=HITOFF&p=1&u=/netahtml/search-
bool.html&r=1&f=G&lP&co1=AND&d=ptxt&s1e36440.WKU.&OS=PN/

6536440&RS=PN/6536440


Owen McKerrow
Message no. 2
From: lists@*******.com (Wordman)
Subject: OT : Sony Patents the Matrix ??
Date: Thu, 07 Apr 2005 22:19:55 -0400
On Apr 7, 2005, at 7:31 PM, Owen McKerrow wrote:

> Reuters is reporting that Sony has been granted 2 patents, both
> describing 'Method and system for generating sensory data onto the
> human neural cortex'. These are patents 6,729,337 and 6,536,440.

This would be a simsense patent, not (necessarily) a Matrix patent.

> The patents go on to 'describe a technique for aiming ultrasonic
> pulses at specific areas of the brain to induce sensory experiences
> such as smells, sounds and images'.

The ultrasonic nature of this makes me ponder a "simsense gun".

Wordman
Message no. 3
From: owen@***.edu.au (Owen McKerrow)
Subject: OT : Sony Patents the Matrix ??
Date: Fri, 8 Apr 2005 13:21:05 +1000
On 08/04/2005, at 12:19 PM, Wordman wrote:

>
> On Apr 7, 2005, at 7:31 PM, Owen McKerrow wrote:
>
>> Reuters is reporting that Sony has been granted 2 patents, both
>> describing 'Method and system for generating sensory data onto the
>> human neural cortex'. These are patents 6,729,337 and 6,536,440.
>
> This would be a simsense patent, not (necessarily) a Matrix patent.

Yes, I realized after I had sent it I had typed the wrong thing :)

>
>> The patents go on to 'describe a technique for aiming ultrasonic
>> pulses at specific areas of the brain to induce sensory experiences
>> such as smells, sounds and images'.
>
> The ultrasonic nature of this makes me ponder a "simsense gun".


Now that would be cool. Particularly if the sim sense was the current
scene all nice and peaceful. Kind of like the old, rig the camera to
keep looping over the same bit of empty room footage, but instead your
getting the Security guards brain to loop over the same bit of Im
seeing an empty room.
Message no. 4
From: jcotton1@*********.net (jcotton1@*********.net)
Subject: OT : Sony Patents the Matrix ??
Date: Fri, 8 Apr 2005 0:19:30 -0400
> From: Owen McKerrow <owen@***.edu.au>
>

TinyURL (http://www.tinyurl.com) is your friend!
>
http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&cidX1&e=4&u=/nm/20050406/
> tc_nm/tech_sony_brain_dc

becomes:
http://tinyurl.com/4292u

> http://patft.uspto.gov/netacgi/nph-Parser?
> Sect1=PTO2&Sect2=HITOFF&p=1&u=/netahtml/search-
>
bool.html&r=1&f=G&lP&co1=AND&d=ptxt&s1g29337.WKU.&OS=PN/

> 6729337&RS=PN/6729337

becomes:
http://tinyurl.com/3vva4

> http://patft.uspto.gov/netacgi/nph-Parser?
> Sect1=PTO2&Sect2=HITOFF&p=1&u=/netahtml/search-
>
bool.html&r=1&f=G&lP&co1=AND&d=ptxt&s1e36440.WKU.&OS=PN/

> 6536440&RS=PN/6536440

becomes:
http://tinyurl.com/6vpa7

and much easier to access, as the long versions were broken up by my e-mail reader and I
had to do a lot of copy and paste to get to the article.

Joe Cotton
Message no. 5
From: jjvanp@*****.com (Jan Jaap van Poelgeest)
Subject: [OT] Sony Patents the Matrix ??
Date: Fri, 8 Apr 2005 08:49:29 -0700 (PDT)
--- Wordman <lists@*******.com> wrote:
>
> On Apr 8, 2005, at 5:01 AM, Jan Jaap van Poelgeest
> wrote:
>
> > The described technology doesn't sound like it
> would
> > work very well on a moving, non-co-operative
> target.
> > This besides the fact that being tricked in this
> > manner will be a noticable experience, even if the
> > input is what one is expecting.
>
> Oh. You wanted _workable_ ideas. I see. May I
> suggest another mailing
> list, then.
>
> Wordman Skunk Works: Where practicality is someone
> else's problem

I have encountered few ideas that I can't work into
something that I delude myself into thinking as being
to my advantage. In fact I think I might not
understand what you mean when you say "workable" or
"practicality", as this is a mailing list and we're
just sharing thoughts on a variety of subjects from a
variety of angles, not pandering to anyone's
particular notion of what should be said (unless they
hold the position of ADMIN, as these people have the
authority to ban you from participating in a given
discussion).

Your suggestion to look for a different mailing list
is hereby returned to sender, as it seems you feel the
need to make such suggestions where they are utterly
unwarranted. Consider that such words can be construed
as hurtful and unappreciative of someone's attempts at
contributing to a discussion. Also note that I might
take your words as a precedent for any future textual
exchanges I could have with you or other participants
of this mailing list. You hold the responsibility to
know the effect and content of your own words, in this
case meaning that they might be repeated to someone
you didn't intend them for.

cheers,

Jan Jaap



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Message no. 6
From: arclight@*********.de (Arclight)
Subject: [OT] Sony Patents the Matrix ??
Date: Fri, 08 Apr 2005 18:11:25 +0200
At 17:49 08.04.2005, Jan Jaap van Poelgeest wrote:

<snip>

>Your suggestion to look for a different mailing list
>is hereby returned to sender, as it seems you feel the
>need to make such suggestions where they are utterly
>unwarranted. Consider that such words can be construed
>as hurtful and unappreciative of someone's attempts at
>contributing to a discussion. Also note that I might
>take your words as a precedent for any future textual
>exchanges I could have with you or other participants
>of this mailing list. You hold the responsibility to
>know the effect and content of your own words, in this
>case meaning that they might be repeated to someone
>you didn't intend them for.

Dude, you made my day with that ^^



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but those who never quit and never win are idiots
Message no. 7
From: justin@***********.net (Justin Bell)
Subject: [OT] Sony Patents the Matrix ??
Date: Fri, 08 Apr 2005 14:55:49 -0500
Jan Jaap van Poelgeest wrote:
> --- Wordman <lists@*******.com> wrote:
> Your suggestion to look for a different mailing list
> is hereby returned to sender, as it seems you feel the
> need to make such suggestions where they are utterly
> unwarranted. Consider that such words can be construed
> as hurtful and unappreciative of someone's attempts at
> contributing to a discussion. Also note that I might
> take your words as a precedent for any future textual
> exchanges I could have with you or other participants
> of this mailing list. You hold the responsibility to
> know the effect and content of your own words, in this
> case meaning that they might be repeated to someone
> you didn't intend them for.

Jan Jaap van Poelgeest wrote:
> Once again, you seem to consider yourself capable of
> holding opinions regarding opinions. You are being
> ridiculous, like a silly clown... ha-ha!
Message no. 8
From: jjvanp@*****.com (Jan Jaap van Poelgeest)
Subject: [OT] Sony Patents the Matrix ??
Date: Fri, 8 Apr 2005 13:31:14 -0700 (PDT)
--- Justin Bell <justin@***********.net> wrote:
> Jan Jaap van Poelgeest wrote:
> > --- Wordman <lists@*******.com> wrote:
> > Your suggestion to look for a different mailing
> list
> > is hereby returned to sender, as it seems you feel
> the
> > need to make such suggestions where they are
> utterly
> > unwarranted. Consider that such words can be
> construed
> > as hurtful and unappreciative of someone's
> attempts at
> > contributing to a discussion. Also note that I
> might
> > take your words as a precedent for any future
> textual
> > exchanges I could have with you or other
> participants
> > of this mailing list. You hold the responsibility
> to
> > know the effect and content of your own words, in
> this
> > case meaning that they might be repeated to
> someone
> > you didn't intend them for.
>
> Jan Jaap van Poelgeest wrote:
> > Once again, you seem to consider yourself capable
> of
> > holding opinions regarding opinions. You are being
> > ridiculous, like a silly clown... ha-ha!
>

By virtue of your authorship you are implying the
existence of an opinion regarding an opinion regarding
an opinion, even if you're using my words. Ergo: you
smell.

cheers,

Jan Jaap



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Message no. 9
From: graht1@*****.com (Graht)
Subject: [OT] Sony Patents the Matrix ??
Date: Fri, 8 Apr 2005 16:27:23 -0600
On Apr 8, 2005 2:31 PM, Jan Jaap van Poelgeest <jjvanp@*****.com> wrote:
>
> By virtue of your authorship you are implying the
> existence of an opinion regarding an opinion regarding
> an opinion, even if you're using my words. Ergo: you
> smell.
>
> cheers,
> Jan Jaap

Shouldn't that be:

cheers,
baby kangaroo Tribbiani

?

;)

Sorry, couldn't resist. Lately just about every single one of your
posts has reminded me of the Friends episode where Ross shows Joey how
to access the thesaurus feature on his computer :)

--
-Graht
Message no. 10
From: jjvanp@*****.com (Jan Jaap van Poelgeest)
Subject: [OT] Sony Patents the Matrix ??
Date: Sat, 9 Apr 2005 02:24:39 -0700 (PDT)
> Sorry, couldn't resist. Lately just about every
> single one of your
> posts has reminded me of the Friends episode where
> Ross shows Joey how
> to access the thesaurus feature on his computer :)

Point duly noted.

Assume it's probably due to the Philosophy of Mind
module on self-knowledge I was taking. Maybe I should
stop letting my everyday concerns leak into
discussions about fantasy and live the 2065 every day.
Not impossible, but it would probably get me locked up
if I picked a insufficiently boring role.

cheers,

country bumpkin of intermediate order between angels
and men



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Message no. 11
From: justin@***********.net (Justin Bell)
Subject: OT : Sony Patents the Matrix ??
Date: Sun, 10 Apr 2005 13:00:28 -0500
On 4/7/2005 11:19 PM, jcotton1@*********.net wrote:
>> From: Owen McKerrow <owen@***.edu.au>
>>
>
> TinyURL (http://www.tinyurl.com) is your friend!
>
>>
http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&cidX1&e=4&u=/nm/20050406/
>> tc_nm/tech_sony_brain_dc
>
>
> becomes: http://tinyurl.com/4292u
> and much easier to access, as the long versions were broken up by my
> e-mail reader and I had to do a lot of copy and paste to get to the
> article.

Actually, the URLs were broken by the original message sender...

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