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Message no. 1
From: Frank Pelletier (Trinity) fpelletier@******.usherb.ca
Subject: [OT] Vor: The various replies :)
Date: Thu, 25 Nov 1999 20:57:04 -0500
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Okay, seems I touched a nerve.

To Paolo/Dvixen. Glad to see you like the game. I'm speaking from a regional standpoint
when I say that Vor isn't working. Our local gaming store is quite big, does very, very
well, and has yet to sell a single copy of Vor. Lack of incentive, maybe, to sell the
game when you have a truckload of GW inventory.

As for me not liking the game. No, I didn't try. Yes, I saw the box, the material, the
figurines. A little cartoonish. The little marine guys look too much like Imperial
Guards from WH40k, and the aliens. Well. Long live the Tyranids.

Was it kneejerk? Probably. Again, I played Warzone, a game that vaunted itself for having
good, flexible rules, and cheap minis. I trade my Brotherhood army for a couple of
Lizardmen minis. It was that bad.

Yes, the game might work elsewhere. I think I'll grab this month's copy of Comic Retailer
and check for myself. Again, just because it doesn't work here doesn't mean it might not
work elsewhere. Then again, the reverse is true also.

Trinity
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Frank Pelletier
fpelletier@******.usherb.ca
"Tout les matins du monde sont sans retour" - Marin Marais

Trin on the Undernet and EFNet

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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Okay, seems I touched a
nerve.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>To Paolo/Dvixen.&nbsp; Glad to see
you like the
game.&nbsp; I'm speaking from a regional standpoint when I say that Vor isn't
working.&nbsp; Our local gaming store is quite big, does very, very well, and
has yet to sell a single copy of Vor.&nbsp; Lack of incentive, maybe, to sell
the game when you have a truckload of GW inventory.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>As for me not liking the
game.&nbsp; No, I didn't
try.&nbsp; Yes, I saw the box, the material, the figurines.&nbsp; A little
cartoonish.&nbsp; The little marine guys look too much like Imperial Guards from
WH40k, and the aliens.&nbsp; Well.&nbsp; Long live the
Tyranids.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Was it kneejerk? Probably.&nbsp;
Again, I played
Warzone, a game that vaunted itself for having good, flexible rules, and cheap
minis.&nbsp; I trade my Brotherhood army for a couple of Lizardmen minis.&nbsp;
It was that bad.&nbsp; </FONT></DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Yes, the game might work
elsewhere.&nbsp; I think
I'll grab this month's copy of Comic Retailer and check for myself.&nbsp; Again,
just because it doesn't work here doesn't mean it might not work
elsewhere.&nbsp; Then again, the reverse is true also.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial
size=2>Trinity<BR>---------------------------------------------<BR>Frank

Pelletier<BR><A
href="mailto:fpelletier@******.usherb.ca">fpelletier@******.usherb.ca</A><BR>"Tout

les matins du monde sont sans retour" - Marin Marais</FONT></DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
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Message no. 2
From: MC23 mc23@**********.com
Subject: [OT] Vor: The various replies :)
Date: Fri, 26 Nov 1999 00:23:54 -0500
I'm sorry but I find predicting a games death and defeat a few
months into it's release uncalled for. I don't actively even play it yet
because I don't feel like there is enough material for it yet. This time
next year fine but now? Totally meaningless. And if it's so bad why does
Alliance distributors consistently sell out the week the new product is
released? Chessex and Armory (the original companies making up Alliance)
both had a good reputation for having stock on hand before. There is a
market obvious and its being underrated. The game can't grow unless the
merchandise can make it to the consumers. Trying to pronounce it's
immature death while the supply chain has yet to meet existing demands is
out right asinine.

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"THAT'S NOT FAIR!"
"You say that so often. I wonder what your basis for comparison is."
-Sarah and Jareth, Labyrinth

I am MC23
Message no. 3
From: Dvixen dvixen@****.com
Subject: [OT] Vor: The various replies :)
Date: Thu, 25 Nov 1999 21:41:55 -0800
Warning! This email contains a one line reply! ;)

At 08:57 PM 25/11/99 , Frank Pelletier (Trinity) annoyed me by writing:
>Okay, seems I touched a nerve.
>
>To Paolo/Dvixen. Glad to see you like the game. I'm speaking from a
>regional standpoint when I say that Vor isn't working. Our local gaming
>store is quite big, does very, very well, and has yet to sell a single
>copy of Vor. Lack of incentive, maybe, to sell the game when you have a
>truckload of GW inventory.
>
>As for me not liking the game. No, I didn't try. Yes, I saw the box, the
>material, the figurines. A little cartoonish. The little marine guys
>look too much like Imperial Guards from WH40k, and the
>aliens. Well. Long live the Tyranids.
>
>Was it kneejerk? Probably. Again, I played Warzone, a game that vaunted
>itself for having good, flexible rules, and cheap minis. I trade my
>Brotherhood army for a couple of Lizardmen minis. It was that bad.
>
>Yes, the game might work elsewhere. I think I'll grab this month's copy
>of Comic Retailer and check for myself. Again, just because it doesn't
>work here doesn't mean it might not work elsewhere. Then again, the
>reverse is true also.

Good enough explanation for me. :)

Ok ok... so it's not just one line. For anyone who might be interested,
there is a VOR mailing list set up, hosted at Onelist (Name: VorList)
There's also a Mechwarrior list for those so inclined. ;) (Name:
MechwarriorRPG)



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