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Message no. 1
From: bluewizard@*****.com (Steven A. Tinner)
Subject: Re: Paid GMing
Date: Tue, 20 Aug 1996 23:53:41 -0500 (EST)
>You get paid to GM? What school? Where do I apply? Can I get a degree
>in it? If so, what are the courses like? Man, the implications are
>staggering...

Not exactly - I don't get paid to GM. (I think FASA would be a little upset
if I was getting cash to run their game!)
The community college sponsors a local gaming club called The Gamers' Guild.
It is an official college organization so it is open to anyone - Hence the
reason I was unable to exclude players from my campaign.
The only "paid GMing" I have done was not true GMing. I taught a community
education program this summer called "Interactions in Science Fiction." In
the course, I assisted the students in designing a new RPG of their own.
The class consisted of apprx. 20 teens between the ages of 13-18. They
generated their own SciFi game from their own ideas. It went rather well,
and I had a lot of fun, and got paid to do it.
I was truly amazed by some of these youngsters. Granted, several of the
younger guys simply took pieces from every SF movie and slapped them into
the world (My cyberninja takes his laightsaber, and hacks the Queen Alien to
death!) But a few of the older one really came up with some creative
concepts. (Which I hope explains why I try not to turn away younger
shadowrunners, no matter how munchkin-like.)
I was also pleased that none of my students had ever RP'd before!!
In fact, I didn't mention the word until one week into the two week course.
So in a sense, yes, I was a paid GM, but in a more accurate sense, I taught
a creative writing/visualization course.



The Way of the Hero

In each truly heroic struggle there is a time of commitment.
A time when human energies fail, yet more is required . . . and more is given.
Few are equal to that task.
Often that effort ends in failure, for victory is not always for the brave.
But where a man might falter, these ones do not, not while life and spirit
endure.
Not until the last measure is given.
To transcend the man, become the hero.
Message no. 2
From: "Gurth" <gurth@******.nl>
Subject: Re: Paid GMing
Date: Wed, 21 Aug 1996 12:26:16 +0100
Steven A. Tinner said on 23:53/20 Aug 96...

> Not exactly - I don't get paid to GM. (I think FASA would be a little upset
> if I was getting cash to run their game!)

How would they find out? And even then, why would they get upset? People
get paid to work with software, to read books, to instruct others how to
use that software/books/anything else...

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Message no. 3
From: bluewizard@*****.com (Steven A. Tinner)
Subject: Re: Paid GMing
Date: Wed, 21 Aug 1996 12:00:30 -0500 (EST)
>How would they find out? And even then, why would they get upset? People
>get paid to work with software, to read books, to instruct others how to
>use that software/books/anything else...

How? No idea?
Why? Not sure either, but a friend of mine contacted TSR regarding a similar
situation he was involved in, and the plainly notified him that being paid
to moderate their games was frowned upon, and could result in possible legal
action.
Now I realize FASA is not TSR, and this instance did happen some years ago,
but better safe than sorry I always say.



The Way of the Hero

In each truly heroic struggle there is a time of commitment.
A time when human energies fail, yet more is required . . . and more is given.
Few are equal to that task.
Often that effort ends in failure, for victory is not always for the brave.
But where a man might falter, these ones do not, not while life and spirit
endure.
Not until the last measure is given.
To transcend the man, become the hero.
Message no. 4
From: "Gurth" <gurth@******.nl>
Subject: Re: Paid GMing
Date: Thu, 22 Aug 1996 09:45:57 +0100
Steven A. Tinner said on 12:00/21 Aug 96...

> >How would they find out? And even then, why would they get upset? People
> >get paid to work with software, to read books, to instruct others how to
> >use that software/books/anything else...
>
> How? No idea?

I've got a few ideas, but most of them involve things I'd think the CIA
does, not game companies... :)

> Why? Not sure either, but a friend of mine contacted TSR regarding a similar
> situation he was involved in, and the plainly notified him that being paid
> to moderate their games was frowned upon, and could result in possible legal
> action.

On the one hand, I think it may have been a wise move to ask them about it
first; on the other, you can also say it was plain dumb -- what they can't
see, they don't shoot down.

> Now I realize FASA is not TSR, and this instance did happen some years ago,
> but better safe than sorry I always say.

Let's hope FASA won't ever do all the stuff T$R did...

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Message no. 5
From: PDL@****.dacom.co.kr
Subject: Re: Paid GMing
Date: Thu, 22 Aug 96 19:22:06 PDT
---------------Original Message---------------

Let's hope FASA won't ever do all the stuff T$R did...

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We are safe as long as Random House does not buy FASA like they did T$R.

Patrick
Message no. 6
From: bluewizard@*****.com (Steven A. Tinner)
Subject: Re: Paid GMing
Date: Thu, 22 Aug 1996 14:08:51 -0500 (EST)
>Let's hope FASA won't ever do all the stuff T$R did...

Dear God let's hope not!!



The Way of the Hero

In each truly heroic struggle there is a time of commitment.
A time when human energies fail, yet more is required . . . and more is given.
Few are equal to that task.
Often that effort ends in failure, for victory is not always for the brave.
But where a man might falter, these ones do not, not while life and spirit
endure.
Not until the last measure is given.
To transcend the man, become the hero.

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