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Message no. 1
From: Fastjack <uc298@*****.UNICAN.ES>
Subject: PA source book??
Date: Sat, 16 Nov 1996 21:13:58 +0100
I think that FASA may make a sourcebook about the Phys.adepts
Message no. 2
From: Platinum <stjeanr@********.CANADOREC.ON.CA>
Subject: Re: PA source book??
Date: Sun, 17 Nov 1996 16:59:47 -0500
At 09:13 PM 11/16/96 +0100, you wrote:
> I think that FASA may make a sourcebook about the Phys.adepts
>
If they come out with a sourcebook for PA's then they will pull
the TSR trick of putting one out for every archtype and then
all the varients ... and on and on and on... etc.

Platinum
Message no. 3
From: Fastjack <uc298@*****.UNICAN.ES>
Subject: Re: PA source book??
Date: Mon, 18 Nov 1996 22:26:25 +0100
On Sun, 17 Nov 1996, Platinum wrote:

> At 09:13 PM 11/16/96 +0100, you wrote:
> > I think that FASA may make a sourcebook about the Phys.adepts
> >
> If they come out with a sourcebook for PA's then they will pull
> the TSR trick of putting one out for every archtype and then
> all the varients ... and on and on and on... etc.
>
> Platinum
>
Hummm... --->Samurais:Street samurai catalog,shadowtech and Fields of
fire(i dont have that book,but i heard is about the samurais and more)

--->Mages:Grimoire and Awakenig(i dont remember now the
entire title)

--->Deckers:Virtual realities

--->Riggers:The rigger black book

Well,all archetypes have a sourcebook.
For example i dont want a sourcebook about the summoning adepts or the
mundanes with magics skills.
IMHO the phys adepts could have a very interesting background(Old
ronin,samurai,ninja...).And probably is enough stuff to make a good
book.Look at the street samurai catalog,IMO is probably the worst book
for Shadowrun published(please no flames,only is the opinion of a
shadowruns lover).
Message no. 4
From: Faux Pas <fauxpas@******.NET>
Subject: Re: PA source book??
Date: Mon, 18 Nov 1996 19:58:01 -0600
At 10:26 PM 11/18/96 +0100, you wrote:
>> If they come out with a sourcebook for PA's then they will pull
>> the TSR trick of putting one out for every archtype and then
>> all the varients ... and on and on and on... etc.
>Hummm... --->Samurais:Street samurai catalog,shadowtech and Fields of
>fire(i dont have that book,but i heard is about the samurais and more)
> --->Mages:Grimoire and Awakenig(i dont remember now the
>entire title)
> --->Deckers:Virtual realities
> --->Riggers:The rigger black book

Really? You see the supplements as FASA's version of TSR's The Complete X
Handbook?

Unlike TSR's fantasy game, Shadowrun doesn't have "character classes". When
we use the word "archetype" to describe a typical shadowrunning team, a
great many of us are using the term incorrectly. The archetypes found in
the SR2, Sprawl Sites, or the Contacts book are simlpy that, a basic version
of that (stereo)type. In Shadowrun, you can have any mix of characters in
your group without having to rely on the Street Sam/Combat
Mage/Decker/Rigger mixture that AD&D experiences influence us into forming.
If you want to, you can have a group of six orkish musicians who take runs
on for a quick buck as your adventuring team. There are no such things as
character classes in Shadowrun.
The closest that comes to defining a "character class" is how magically
aware your PC is. In that case, the only character classes are Magician,
Adept, and Mundane.

So then, what's the Street Samurai book? It's an extension of the "Gear"
section of the main book. Fields of Fire? Same thing, with some more rules
for the "Combat" section. Cybertechnology or Shadowtech? More gear, chrome
and vat-grown. The Grimmy or Awakenings? More rules for the "Magic"
section. VR 2.0? Revamps the "Matrix" section. RBB? Essentially more
vehicles for the "Gear" section, and rules on modifying vehicles. Any
character can [modify vehicles/get cybered/buy an Ares Predator S/cruise the
Matrix] without being a [rigger/street samurai/ork mercenary/elven decker].

Now granted, players who run magical characters (adepts and full-blooded)
are more likely to own the Grimmy than the Rigger's Black Book, but most of
these books have sections for the GM to introduce into the game system. The
Grimmy gave us Toxic Threats and Insect Threats. Cybertechnology gave us
NPCs with negative essence.

Besides, I can't think of a single character in my group that didn't get
something from the Street Sam's Catalog, shaman, rocker, rigger, or chromer.

-Thomas Deeny
the Cartoonist at large is on the web at www2.cy-net.net/~fauxpas

"If you talk to God, you are praying; if God talks to you, you have
schizophrenia."
-Dr. Thomas Szasz
Message no. 5
From: Sight Unseen <toabo@****.UTEXAS.EDU>
Subject: Re: PA source book??
Date: Tue, 19 Nov 1996 03:03:30 -0500
>.Look at the street samurai catalog,IMO is probably the worst book
>for Shadowrun published(please no flames,only is the opinion of a
>shadowruns lover).
>
Well, it was one of their first efforts, though.

Peace and Long Life,

Scott
Message no. 6
From: Gurth <gurth@******.NL>
Subject: Re: PA source book??
Date: Tue, 19 Nov 1996 12:51:58 +0100
Sight Unseen said on 3:03/19 Nov 96...

> >.Look at the street samurai catalog,IMO is probably the worst book
> >for Shadowrun published(please no flames,only is the opinion of a
> >shadowruns lover).
> >
> Well, it was one of their first efforts, though.

It's a bit of a useless book since SRII came out, since that has just
about all the SSC's gear in it as well. Before that, however, the SSC was
(IMHO) a necessary addition to the Shadowrun line -- more stuff to play
with, everything illustrated, some optional rules, I thought it was
really good when I first got it.

One thing that bugs me about these types of SR sourcebook, though, is
that every item gets a page all to itself; in this respect I like CP2020's
approach better...

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Message no. 7
From: Mark McLaughlin <mmclaugh@*******.EENG.DCU.IE>
Subject: Re: PA source book??
Date: Tue, 19 Nov 1996 12:44:47 -0800
Faux Pas wrote:
>
> At 10:26 PM 11/18/96 +0100, you wrote:
> >> If they come out with a sourcebook for PA's then they will pull
> >> the TSR trick of putting one out for every archtype and then
> >> all the varients ... and on and on and on... etc.
> >Hummm... --->Samurais:Street samurai catalog,shadowtech and Fields of
> >fire(i dont have that book,but i heard is about the samurais and more)
> > --->Mages:Grimoire and Awakenig(i dont remember now the
> >entire title)
> > --->Deckers:Virtual realities
> > --->Riggers:The rigger black book
>
> Really? You see the supplements as FASA's version of TSR's The Complete X
> Handbook?
>
> Unlike TSR's fantasy game, Shadowrun doesn't have "character classes".
When
> we use the word "archetype" to describe a typical shadowrunning team, a
> great many of us are using the term incorrectly. The archetypes found in
> the SR2, Sprawl Sites, or the Contacts book are simlpy that, a basic version
> of that (stereo)type. In Shadowrun, you can have any mix of characters in
> your group without having to rely on the Street Sam/Combat
> Mage/Decker/Rigger mixture that AD&D experiences influence us into forming.
> If you want to, you can have a group of six orkish musicians who take runs
> on for a quick buck as your adventuring team. There are no such things as
> character classes in Shadowrun.
> The closest that comes to defining a "character class" is how magically
> aware your PC is. In that case, the only character classes are Magician,
> Adept, and Mundane.
>
> So then, what's the Street Samurai book? It's an extension of the "Gear"
> section of the main book. Fields of Fire? Same thing, with some more rules
> for the "Combat" section. Cybertechnology or Shadowtech? More gear,
chrome
> and vat-grown. The Grimmy or Awakenings? More rules for the "Magic"
> section. VR 2.0? Revamps the "Matrix" section. RBB? Essentially more
> vehicles for the "Gear" section, and rules on modifying vehicles. Any
> character can [modify vehicles/get cybered/buy an Ares Predator S/cruise the
> Matrix] without being a [rigger/street samurai/ork mercenary/elven decker].
>
> Now granted, players who run magical characters (adepts and full-blooded)
> are more likely to own the Grimmy than the Rigger's Black Book, but most of
> these books have sections for the GM to introduce into the game system. The
> Grimmy gave us Toxic Threats and Insect Threats. Cybertechnology gave us
> NPCs with negative essence.
>
> Besides, I can't think of a single character in my group that didn't get
> something from the Street Sam's Catalog, shaman, rocker, rigger, or chromer.
>
> -Thomas Deeny
> the Cartoonist at large is on the web at www2.cy-net.net/~fauxpas
>
> "If you talk to God, you are praying; if God talks to you, you have
> schizophrenia."
> -Dr. Thomas Szasz

As I explained in an earlier message FASA appear to release books for
aspects of the games rather than for specific archtypes ie. magic or
decking. And since The Grimoire (and probably awakenings, but I dont
know because I havent read it.) is dedicated to magic, it covers every
aspect of magical archtypes and rules relating to them therefore in my
opinion a book on adepts or even pa`s alone will not be released!

Mark.
Message no. 8
From: Mark Steedman <M.J.Steedman@***.RGU.AC.UK>
Subject: Re: PA source book??
Date: Tue, 19 Nov 1996 13:26:56 GMT
Gurth writes

> Sight Unseen said on 3:03/19 Nov 96...
>
> > >.Look at the street samurai catalog,IMO is probably the worst book
> > >for Shadowrun published(please no flames,only is the opinion of a
> > >shadowruns lover).
> > >
Its good, but.

> > Well, it was one of their first efforts, though.
>
> It's a bit of a useless book since SRII came out, since that has just
> about all the SSC's gear in it as well. Before that, however, the SSC was
> (IMHO) a necessary addition to the Shadowrun line -- more stuff to play
> with, everything illustrated, some optional rules, I thought it was
> really good when I first got it.
I have been told similar things by other folks that were playing when
it came out. The problem with it now is Shadowtech overshadows its
cyberwear and Fields of fire has bigger guns. The old 'the new book
has to be better' syndrome. Not that FASA have as much choice as they
like, at the end of the day the game developers can feel like doing
anything but if FASA does not make money on it they've got a problem.
FASA 'Corporation!' has at the end of the day got to watch that
almighty bottom line.

>
> One thing that bugs me about these types of SR sourcebook, though, is
> that every item gets a page all to itself; in this respect I like CP2020's
> approach better...
Probably why theres so much more 'clutter, but interesting clutter'
in CP2020. In SR an item really has to be worth considering using to
be worth a page of a 100 page sourcebook.

The best i saw was the kit list in CP2020's 'Neo Tribes' they have
proper survival gear!, water canteens tents etc. in there!

Mark
Message no. 9
From: Mark Steedman <M.J.Steedman@***.RGU.AC.UK>
Subject: Re: PA source book??
Date: Tue, 19 Nov 1996 13:40:39 GMT
Yep chasing the last :)

> Mark McLaughlin writes
> >
> TRIM POSTS, loads panther cannon. You're the latest of several
> offenders, but no doubt you'll change.
>
>
> > As I explained in an earlier message FASA appear to release books for
> > aspects of the games rather than for specific archtypes ie. magic or
> > decking. And since The Grimoire (and probably awakenings, but I dont
> > know because I havent read it.) is dedicated to magic, it covers every
> > aspect of magical archtypes and rules relating to them therefore in my
> > opinion a book on adepts or even pa`s alone will not be released!
> no there is quite a lot more on PA's in Awakenings, including around
> a doubling of the powers list!
>
> >
> > Mark.
> >
>
> Mark
>
Message no. 10
From: Fastjack <uc298@*****.UNICAN.ES>
Subject: PA sourcebook?
Date: Tue, 19 Nov 1996 15:20:38 +0100
Sorry,i dont wanted to say that every archetype have a sourcebook.I
like too a character decker/rigger(one in my group).Not only rigger,but
IMHO riggers are one of the characters with a lot of possibilities.
Ok,the grimoire contents all the aspects of the magic,but the phys adepts
have few "FASAs Powers".
And about All books about new tech, IMO the PA dont look at them.

As i said the Phys adepts sourcebook will be a greta book,because his
background will be great!Do you like the stories about the ronin?and all
the temples of martial artist?never asked how nijas have his amazing
powers?who discovered these powers?
Message no. 11
From: Timothy P Cooper <tpcooper@***.CSUPOMONA.EDU>
Subject: Re: PA source book??
Date: Tue, 19 Nov 1996 10:33:43 -0800
> It's a bit of a useless book since SRII came out, since that has just
> about all the SSC's gear in it as well. Before that, however, the SSC was
> (IMHO) a necessary addition to the Shadowrun line -- more stuff to play
> with, everything illustrated, some optional rules, I thought it was
> really good when I first got it.

Just check out the SSC revised edition. The re-ran it with the SRII conversions
so. Basically gives you all the background info not just the one-liner stats
you get in the SRII or FoF tables.

>
> One thing that bugs me about these types of SR sourcebook, though, is
> that every item gets a page all to itself; in this respect I like CP2020's
> approach better...

Not being a CP2020 player, how do they do it?

> --
> Gurth@******.nl - http://www.xs4all.nl/~gurth/index.html

~Tim
Message no. 12
From: Gurth <gurth@******.NL>
Subject: Re: PA source book??
Date: Wed, 20 Nov 1996 12:27:49 +0100
Timothy P Cooper said on 10:33/19 Nov 96...

> Just check out the SSC revised edition. The re-ran it with the SRII conversions
> so. Basically gives you all the background info not just the one-liner stats
> you get in the SRII or FoF tables.

I have looked into the SSC 2nd ed book, and it definitely is not worth
spending money on if you have the first edition and the SRII mainbook.

> > One thing that bugs me about these types of SR sourcebook, though, is
> > that every item gets a page all to itself; in this respect I like CP2020's
> > approach better...
>
> Not being a CP2020 player, how do they do it?

Lots of stuff arrange in a more or less haphazard way on each page. Not
everything has an illustration, and game text is mixed with "real" info
(which I don't really like -- it somewhat spoils the feeling of reality)
but they manage to cram a LOT of items in a book. A large number of them
are useless to some degree or other, but that makes them really good for
fleshing out a character even though you'll never find a useful
application for them (computer games, phone upgrades, furniture for your
apartment, and so on).

The difference with books like the SSC and FOF is that everything in there
can be used to make your character survive or be better than the rest of
the world (weapons, body armors, vehicles, grapple lines, etc.).

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Message no. 13
From: BulletShower <nmatausc@****.CIP.FAK14.UNI-MUENCHEN.DE>
Subject: Re: PA source book??
Date: Wed, 20 Nov 1996 13:42:43 +1000
Timothy P Cooper <tpcooper@***.CSUPOMONA.EDU>
asked:

> > One thing that bugs me about these types of SR sourcebook, though, is
> > that every item gets a page all to itself; in this respect I like CP2020's
> > approach better...
>
> Not being a CP2020 player, how do they do it?

SJG's CP2020 books feature several items on one page, some are not
illustrated at all, while others are. All in all, the CP2020
sourcebooks have more pages and more items (= more information).
Another advantage: they also feature everyday-life things, like
flavored cigarettes, or fashionable clothing (nope, FASA were not the
first to have this stuff). Great, usable books.

:)
BulletShower
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Message no. 14
From: Mark McLaughlin <mmclaugh@*******.EENG.DCU.IE>
Subject: Re: PA sourcebook?
Date: Wed, 20 Nov 1996 16:03:37 -0800
Fastjack wrote:
>
> Sorry,i dont wanted to say that every archetype have a sourcebook.I
> like too a character decker/rigger(one in my group).Not only rigger,but
> IMHO riggers are one of the characters with a lot of possibilities.
> Ok,the grimoire contents all the aspects of the magic,but the phys adepts
> have few "FASAs Powers".
> And about All books about new tech, IMO the PA dont look at them.
>
> As i said the Phys adepts sourcebook will be a greta book,because his
> background will be great!Do you like the stories about the ronin?and all
> the temples of martial artist?never asked how nijas have his amazing
> powers?who discovered these powers?

Are you sure there is going to be such a sourcebook!? I mean I`ve been
GMing SRII for about 2 years before I found this list and my players
have never shown as much enthusiasm as do some people on this list about
PA`s.
I`ve encouraged them to play them as they are very good archtypes but no
more so than any other adept or non-main archtype. To me a sourcebook on
"Former company men" would be just as relevant although you might argue
that "FCM" are already appropriately covered in books sure as SSC,fields
of fire, shadowtech etc. but nevertheless...

Mark McL
Message no. 15
From: Gurth <gurth@******.NL>
Subject: Re: PA source book??
Date: Wed, 20 Nov 1996 20:58:15 +0100
BulletShower said on 13:42/20 Nov 96...

> SJG's CP2020 books

Erm... I thought it was Talsorian that published CP2020? At least it says
so on the books I own of the game... :)

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Message no. 16
From: BulletShower <nmatausc@****.CIP.FAK14.UNI-MUENCHEN.DE>
Subject: Re: PA source book??
Date: Tue, 26 Nov 1996 09:29:19 +1000
Wrote Gurth <gurth@******.NL> the other day:

> BulletShower said on 13:42/20 Nov 96...
> > SJG's CP2020 books

> Erm... I thought it was Talsorian that published CP2020? At least it says
> so on the books I own of the game... :)

Talsorian? TALSORIAN? Published CP2020? Nay, never! Never heard of
that! Nay, never ever! [blush-blush-blush]
Tsk tsk, I'm sure you're wrong. Hm. Talsorian? Huh, nope, can't be.
TALSORIAN? Who's Talsorian, anyway? Published CP2020? [BLUSH]



:)
BulletShower
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Message no. 17
From: Droopy <droopy@*******.NB.NET>
Subject: Re: PA source book??
Date: Wed, 27 Nov 1996 02:04:10 +0000
> > Erm... I thought it was Talsorian that published CP2020? At least it says
> > so on the books I own of the game... :)
>
> Talsorian? TALSORIAN? Published CP2020? Nay, never! Never heard of
> that! Nay, never ever! [blush-blush-blush]
> Tsk tsk, I'm sure you're wrong. Hm. Talsorian? Huh, nope, can't be.
> TALSORIAN? Who's Talsorian, anyway? Published CP2020? [BLUSH]

Actually, CP2020 currently falls under Atlas Games who are publishing
it under license from RTG.


--Droopy
droopy@**.net
Message no. 18
From: big_jake <big_jake@****.COM>
Subject: Re: PA source book??
Date: Thu, 28 Nov 1996 10:54:18 -0600
> Actually, CP2020 currently falls under Atlas Games who are publishing
> it under license from RTG.

Where do you get this stuff? CP2020 is R. Talsorian's flagship game. The
only thing I can figure is that you're not in the U.S. of A., and Atlas
Games is the publisher where you live. Otherwise, my advice is RTFM, it's
printed right on the back cover. ;-)

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Message no. 19
From: Guido Hölker <guido@******.COM>
Subject: Re: PA source book??
Date: Thu, 28 Nov 1996 18:45:54 +0100
At 10:54 28.11.1996 -0600, you wrote:
> > Actually, CP2020 currently falls under Atlas Games who are publishing
> > it under license from RTG.
>
>Where do you get this stuff? CP2020 is R. Talsorian's flagship game. The

Both true: Atlas Games is doing some license-stuff for 2.0.2.0. (with a
ceratin part of Cthulhu in it) but RTG is still doing it by themselfes as te
main line.
Message no. 20
From: Gurth <gurth@******.NL>
Subject: Re: PA source book??
Date: Fri, 29 Nov 1996 11:40:11 +0100
big_jake said on 10:54/28 Nov 96...

> > Actually, CP2020 currently falls under Atlas Games who are publishing
> > it under license from RTG.
>
> Where do you get this stuff? CP2020 is R. Talsorian's flagship game. The
> only thing I can figure is that you're not in the U.S. of A., and Atlas
> Games is the publisher where you live. Otherwise, my advice is RTFM, it's
> printed right on the back cover. ;-)

That's what I thought too... Atlas has published a couple of adventures
for CP2020, but that's about it AFAIK. They do publish Ars Magica stuff
now, though, after WotC wanted to do away with its RPGs to concentrate on
CCGs only.

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Message no. 21
From: Mark McLaughlin <mmclaugh@*******.EENG.DCU.IE>
Subject: Re: PA source book??
Date: Fri, 29 Nov 1996 13:07:22 -0800
Gurth wrote:
>
> big_jake said on 10:54/28 Nov 96...
>
> > > Actually, CP2020 currently falls under Atlas Games who are
publishing
> > > it under license from RTG.
> >
> > Where do you get this stuff? CP2020 is R. Talsorian's flagship game. The
> > only thing I can figure is that you're not in the U.S. of A., and Atlas
> > Games is the publisher where you live. Otherwise, my advice is RTFM, it's
> > printed right on the back cover. ;-)
>
> That's what I thought too... Atlas has published a couple of adventures
> for CP2020, but that's about it AFAIK. They do publish Ars Magica stuff
> now, though, after WotC wanted to do away with its RPGs to concentrate on
> CCGs only.
>
> --
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You guys have gone right off the PA sourcebook thread.. Do you realise
that!!??
Message no. 22
From: Sascha Pabst <Sascha.Pabst@**********.UNI-OLDENBURG.DE>
Subject: Re: PA source book??
Date: Fri, 29 Nov 1996 18:03:14 +0000
On 29 Nov 96 at 13:07, Mark McLaughlin wrote:
[snip 30 lines]
> You guys have gone right off the PA sourcebook thread.. Do you realise
> that!!??
You still didn't learn to delete what you are not refering to (like the whole
quote from your mail above], do you guy realize that?

Sascha
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| / /_/ ____/ |Sascha.Pabst@**********.Uni-Oldenburg.de|you, you wouldn't be|
| \___ __/ | | worth the price.' |
|==== \_/ ======| *Wearing hats is just a way of life* | - E. Weatherwax |
|LOGOUT FASCISM!| - Me | (T. Pratchett)|
+------------- http://www.informatik.uni-oldenburg.de/~jhary -----------------+
Message no. 23
From: Droopy <droopy@*******.NB.NET>
Subject: Re: PA source book??
Date: Fri, 29 Nov 1996 17:18:37 +0000
Big_jake wrote,

> > Actually, CP2020 currently falls under Atlas Games who are publishing
> > it under license from RTG.
>
> Where do you get this stuff? CP2020 is R. Talsorian's flagship game. The
> only thing I can figure is that you're not in the U.S. of A., and Atlas
> Games is the publisher where you live. Otherwise, my advice is RTFM, it's
> printed right on the back cover. ;-)

Atlas is publishing the supplements. RTG is still publishing the
main books. I should have been clearer, I suppose.


--Droopy
droopy@**.net
Message no. 24
From: Gurth <gurth@******.NL>
Subject: Re: PA source book??
Date: Sat, 30 Nov 1996 12:36:58 +0100
Mark McLaughlin said on 13:07/29 Nov 96...

[snip two Page Downs worth of quotes]
> You guys have gone right off the PA sourcebook thread.. Do you realise
> that!!??

We just about always do, so it's something you're going to have to get
used to I think... Oh, and trim your posts, virtually nobody needs to read
*everything* again to know what you're replying to, especially not the
signature...

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Message no. 25
From: Mark McLaughlin <mmclaugh@*******.EENG.DCU.IE>
Subject: Re: PA source book??
Date: Mon, 2 Dec 1996 11:10:15 -0800
Sascha Pabst wrote:
>
> On 29 Nov 96 at 13:07, Mark McLaughlin wrote:
> [snip 30 lines]
> > You guys have gone right off the PA sourcebook thread.. Do you realise
> > that!!??
> You still didn't learn to delete what you are not refering to (like the whole
> quote from your mail above], do you guy realize that?
>
> Sascha
> --
> +---___---------+----------------------------------------+--------------------+
> | / / _______ | Jhary-a-Conel aka Sascha Pabst | 'If we had to buy |
> | / /_/ ____/ |Sascha.Pabst@**********.Uni-Oldenburg.de|you, you wouldn't be|
> | \___ __/ | | worth the price.' |
> |==== \_/ ======| *Wearing hats is just a way of life* | - E. Weatherwax |
> |LOGOUT FASCISM!| - Me | (T. Pratchett)|
> +------------- http://www.informatik.uni-oldenburg.de/~jhary -----------------+

So!
Message no. 26
From: David Buehrer <dbuehrer@******.CARL.ORG>
Subject: Re: PA source book??
Date: Mon, 2 Dec 1996 08:12:28 +0700
Mark McLaughlin wrote about "Re: PA source book??":

> Sascha Pabst wrote:
> >
> > On 29 Nov 96 at 13:07, Mark McLaughlin wrote:
> > [snip 30 lines]
> > > You guys have gone right off the PA sourcebook thread.. Do you
> > > realise that!!??
> > You still didn't learn to delete what you are not refering to
> > (like the whole quote from your mail above], do you guy realize
> > that?

[snip: Sascha's signature]

> So!

<sigh> Well Sascha, thanks for trying.

-Dreamcatcher

"Ah to sleep, perchance to dream."

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