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Message no. 1
From: Mark McLaughlin <mmclaugh@*******.EENG.DCU.IE>
Subject: Re: PA source book + sourcebooks vrs SR3
Date: Tue, 19 Nov 1996 12:33:50 -0800
Fastjack wrote:
>
> On Sun, 17 Nov 1996, Platinum wrote:
>
> > At 09:13 PM 11/16/96 +0100, you wrote:
> > > I think that FASA may make a sourcebook about the Phys.adepts
> > >
> > If they come out with a sourcebook for PA's then they will pull
> > the TSR trick of putting one out for every archtype and then
> > all the varients ... and on and on and on... etc.
> >
> > Platinum
> >
> Hummm... --->Samurais:Street samurai catalog,shadowtech and Fields of
> fire(i dont have that book,but i heard is about the samurais and more)
>
> --->Mages:Grimoire and Awakenig(i dont remember now the
> entire title)
>
> --->Deckers:Virtual realities
>
> --->Riggers:The rigger black book
>
> Well,all archetypes have a sourcebook.
> For example i dont want a sourcebook about the summoning adepts or the
> mundanes with magics skills.
> IMHO the phys adepts could have a very interesting background(Old
> ronin,samurai,ninja...).And probably is enough stuff to make a good
> book.Look at the street samurai catalog,IMO is probably the worst book
> for Shadowrun published(please no flames,only is the opinion of a
> shadowruns lover).

Actually the only genuine book for Samarai`s is "the street sam cat",
Shadowtech contains gear for other professions ie.deckers and fields of
fire technically caters for the "Mercenary". If you read the lengthy
intro in fields of fire you`ll see that there is an appreciable
difference between mercenaries and street sams.
I feel that rather than fasa releasing a sourcebook for every profession
it is more like for every aspect of the game ie. the main parts of the
game: decking, fighting and magic. Other books that only fit loosely
into the previous catagories are there for game balance and extra
information.

This also brings up a problem which has been on my mind for the last
week or so. FASA exist to make money right so it stand to reason that
there going to keep releasing sourcebooks (in true AD&D fashion
(shudder)) probably must faster than most of us can buy them (at least
me anyway!).
I mean I have around 10 SR books and I would consider that pretty
dedicated at least since I joined this list and realised that there is
so much stuff I didnt have. Now believe it or not this is not the worst
state of affairs!! Some companies (FASA has done it in the past but in
all fairness is hopefully not likely to do it again) when they have
released a system and a few books for it decide its maybe time for a
second edition -I have no problems with this unless it makes all youre
other books !OBSOLETE!. This is (as I see it) FASA`s alternative to
releasing more and more and more sourcebooks -to make a third edition..
The thought scares me! (however with so many books on the market that
would be made obsolete this as I said is unlikely).
Any coments,

Mark.
Message no. 2
From: Mark Steedman <M.J.Steedman@***.RGU.AC.UK>
Subject: Re: PA source book + sourcebooks vrs SR3
Date: Tue, 19 Nov 1996 13:39:53 GMT
oops, mailers with the 'reply to' in the wrong place, sorry Mark
you'll get 2, and the next one, what you get for over fast mail
reading.

> Mark McLaughlin writes
> >
> > This also brings up a problem which has been on my mind for the last
> > week or so. FASA exist to make money right so it stand to reason that
> > there going to keep releasing sourcebooks (in true AD&D fashion
> > (shudder)) probably must faster than most of us can buy them (at least
> > me anyway!).
> They are going to have to keep puting stuff out, although for some of
> its 'now when will i have time to read......' Theres a great pile of
> ED books i want to read, could buy, but don't recon are really worth
> it even if i could find the spare time to read them.
>
> > I mean I have around 10 SR books and I would consider that pretty
> > dedicated at least since I joined this list and realised that there is
> > so much stuff I didnt have.
> At least you won't have the 'now which ones can i get away without
> taking today' syndrome, all of them is FAR too much to lug about :(
>
> > Now believe it or not this is not the worst
> > state of affairs!! Some companies (FASA has done it in the past but in
> > all fairness is hopefully not likely to do it again) when they have
> > released a system and a few books for it decide its maybe time for a
> > second edition -I have no problems with this unless it makes all youre
> > other books !OBSOLETE!. This is (as I see it) FASA`s alternative to
> > releasing more and more and more sourcebooks -to make a third edition..
> > The thought scares me! (however with so many books on the market that
> > would be made obsolete this as I said is unlikely).
> > Any coments,
> >
> I doubt a third edition will show up. 2nd was a reweite of the combat
> rules, and basically only made GR1 obsolete as they put the better
> rules in SR2 so that didn't leave enough in the grimoire that was
> special to keep reprinting it. They therefore made a 2nd ed version
> and cleared up a few more things in the process.
>
> ok VR1 now joins the pile but its now 4 years since 2nd ed came out,
> i think its more likely they will put the patches in the compaion
> while they have the chance than rewrite things again.
>
> > Mark.
> >
> Mark
>
> we are going to have to be carefull here, thats 3 Marks, and i
> already see people confusing me with Mark Imbraco (which really
> doesn't help them, i have nothing to do with running the lists, i've
> just been here over 18 months now :) ) - folks read the 'from
> sections' i might have to put more on my mails, but you won't see a
> special attachment as i mail folks for too many reasons and cannot
> risk the wrong .sig going to the wrong place, hence why i've never
> bothered with the things.
>
>
>
>
>
Message no. 3
From: David Buehrer <dbuehrer@****.ORG>
Subject: Re: PA source book + sourcebooks vrs SR3
Date: Tue, 19 Nov 1996 08:00:03 -0700
Mark McLaughlin wrote:
|
|This also brings up a problem which has been on my mind for the last
|week or so. FASA exist to make money right so it stand to reason that
|there going to keep releasing sourcebooks (in true AD&D fashion
|(shudder)) probably must faster than most of us can buy them (at least
|me anyway!).

Do what I do. Offer to your players an amount of karma
equal to the dollar value of any sourcebook if they buy it
for you. Of course, this reward only goes to the first
person to get you the book. I've had one player take
advantage of this quite well. Now I make the offer to the
player who's character has the lowest karma. If he turns
it down I move on to the next lowest, and so on.

Right now I'm only missing two sourcebooks :)

-David

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Message no. 4
From: Justin Pinnow <jpinnow@*****.EDU>
Subject: Re: PA source book + sourcebooks vrs SR3
Date: Tue, 19 Nov 1996 10:18:52 -0500
David Buehrer wrote:
>
> Mark McLaughlin wrote:
> |
> |This also brings up a problem which has been on my mind for the last
> |week or so. FASA exist to make money right so it stand to reason that
> |there going to keep releasing sourcebooks (in true AD&D fashion
> |(shudder)) probably must faster than most of us can buy them (at least
> |me anyway!).
>
> Do what I do. Offer to your players an amount of karma
> equal to the dollar value of any sourcebook if they buy it
> for you. Of course, this reward only goes to the first
> person to get you the book. I've had one player take
> advantage of this quite well. Now I make the offer to the
> player who's character has the lowest karma. If he turns
> it down I move on to the next lowest, and so on.
>
> Right now I'm only missing two sourcebooks :)

Sheesh. A free initiation for a few bucks? Well, hell, I would go for
that. ;)
<Snip>

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Justin Pinnow
jpinnow@*****.edu

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