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Message no. 1
From: "Jesus Christ" <shadowrun@*******.com>
Subject: Re: PC's Morality - one of the players view
Date: Fri, 27 Sep 1996 00:55:51 -0700
First off I am a player in this game and i want to respond from a players
viewpoint.

>> > 2. Did they know that their actions would cause the deaths of these
children?
>>
>> Let's see, when they shot up the cloning chambers and the ICC they
>> inadvertently set off the facilitie's "self-destruct", which it had
>> because of the very sensitive research that was going on in the
>> cloning labs. Which I announced to the players as an audible
>> countdown alarm. They had ample time to leave the building and
>> rescue the other children. Of course one of their comrads was
>> stunned unconscious and there target was also unconscious. Their
>> only thoughts were to get the hell out of dodge before anymore
>> security arrived.

The doors were unlocked and the children had three hours to walk right out the
front door (they were teenagers, not really kids) and i don't know any kid that
will just sit in a room for three hours when an alarm is blaring Self Destruct
in 2 Hours, etc.

>Hmmm... did they have ample time to rescue the children AS WELL AS
>getting their team member and their target out?

yes but we felt it was not necessary! they could leave by themselves and we
thought (rightfully so) that reinforcements were on the way! How were we to
know that the kids weren't going to leave by themselves? Plus lone star was on
the way with over an hour and a half left in the countdown. Why didn't they
save the kids?

>> > In short, a summary of the run, please?

>> target. Runners destroy all research (which by the way surprise the hell
out of me, I figured they would take all research that they
>> could for loot, not these guys no "let's destroy everything")
>In which case they're silly, but let's continue...
>> initiating the automated "self-destruct" sequence. Runners here
>> countdown, carry their comrad an target out of building to vehicle
>> where rigger is waiting to roll out. Sqauter notices runners
>> carrying bodies. Squater calls Lone Star. Runners drive off.
>> Lonestar passes runners, notices that he passed them, proceeds to
>> pursue runners. Runners non-lethally remove Lonestar threat and
>> deliver child to Johnson. Child cries out that's not my mommy.
>> Runners get paid and leave. Runners see face of one of there
>> comrads on TV. GM hands out Karma. Players go home.
>Let's face it, if a corp puts an autodestruct on a building which houses
>150 children, it's not ENTIRELY the runners' fault, is it?

True! they also had guards in each of the kids rooms that had panther cannons!
did they plan on using those on the kids when they misbehaved? I also was not
aware that we had the capability to turn off the self destruct because the
computer mainframe had been trashed in the crossfire! I thought that had set
off the alarm!

Adam Sweeny
The Elven Merc Sniper
shadowrun@*******.com


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Message no. 2
From: "Sedah Drol" <sedahdro@****.holli.com>
Subject: Re: PC's Morality - one of the players view
Date: Fri, 27 Sep 1996 16:27:12 +500
> First off I am a player in this game and i want to respond from a players
> viewpoint.

It's about time you reply. :)

> The doors were unlocked and the children had three hours to walk right out the
> front door (they were teenagers, not really kids) and i don't know any kid that
> will just sit in a room for three hours when an alarm is blaring Self Destruct
> in 2 Hours, etc.

Good point, I thought you had locked all of the childrens doors, not just
the Trolls. And the self-destruct alarm was not blaring on the
ground levels. The children had no idea that they were going to be
dead. Plus the fear of being sent to "the room" if they left kept them at bay.

> yes but we felt it was not necessary! they could leave by themselves and we
> thought (rightfully so) that reinforcements were on the way! How were we to
> know that the kids weren't going to leave by themselves? Plus lone star was on
> the way with over an hour and a half left in the countdown. Why didn't they
> save the kids?

Yeah but Lonestar didn't know of the countdown, they were only
responding to an annonymous phone call of suspicious people out on
the street with big weapons, carrying bodies.
You know come to think of it I also forgot about DocWagon, who would
of probably left all the doors unlocked. Did they get out on time?
I'll have to think about that one.

> True! they also had guards in each of the kids rooms that had panther cannons!
> did they plan on using those on the kids when they misbehaved? I also was not
> aware that we had the capability to turn off the self destruct because the
> computer mainframe had been trashed in the crossfire! I thought that had set
> off the alarm!

You never bothered to ask or look around to see if there was a way.

---Sedah Drol
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