| From: | Dylan Northrup <northrup@*****.SLU.EDU> |
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| Subject: | Phoenix Command and guns. . . |
| Date: | Wed, 12 Apr 1995 11:10:20 -0500 |
> Date: Tue, 11 Apr 1995 19:29:16 -0400
> From: Stainless Steel Rat <ratinox@***.NEU.EDU>
> Subject: Re: Knocked down
>
> >>>>> "Matt" == Matt Hufstetler
<gt2778a@*****.GATECH.EDU> writes:
>
> Matt> You guys know, if you want a more realistic system, you could play
> Matt> Cyberpunk.
>
> Hardly. Try Phoenix Command or CORPS.
Yeah, but who has the time for a system that takes an hour to resolve one
round of small unit combat?
> Date: Tue, 11 Apr 1995 19:03:31 -0500
> From: "Robert A. Hayden" <hayden@*******.MANKATO.MSUS.EDU>
> Subject: Re: guns, guns, guns...
>
> Amazinghow those pesky afgahnastan peasants with poor weapons, toyota
> trucks, and a handful of American Stingers fought that entire Soviet army...
Amazinghow those pesky vietnamese peasants with pooor weapons, no trucks,
and some weapons from China fought that entire American army...
I know I'll get "educated on the various and sundry reasons why
Afgahnastan was different than Vietnam", but both wars were lost because
it was not popular to go in and committ genocide to achieve victory and it
was not cost efficient to pour enough resources into achieving said
victory. If the Soviets had really wanted to win Afgahnastan (i.e. if
there had been valuable resources in Afgahnastan that were needed by the
USSR), have no doubt that the would have.
> Date: Tue, 11 Apr 1995 21:02:17 -0400
> From: Stainless Steel Rat <ratinox@***.NEU.EDU>
> Subject: Re: flaming Americans (was: Re: Renegade's Gun Mod's)
>
> >>>>> "Robert" == Robert Watkins <bob@**.NTU.EDU.AU>
writes:
>
> Robert> Keeping a collection would be fine. Registered guns aren't the
> Robert> problem, so much, it's the vast pool of unregistered/illegal guns.
>
> Which isn't as vast a pool (Sevastapol?:) as the media would have you
> belive.
Well, I'll be the first to say that there are a lot more unregistered/
unliscensed guns out there than makes me comfortable for there to be.
When I, a normal, average bloke with no connections to any underground
movement can easily be able to obtain an unliscensed pistol in a week or
so and have no trail leading back to me for said weapon, I feel unsafe.
And before you say this cannot happen, I've had friends of mine who are
much the same as me do exactly the same thing.
> ``Being a need for a strong militia, the right to keep and bear arms shall
> not be infringed.''
>
> The militia exists to protect the people from *any* threat. It just so
> happens that the existing government could be considered as such.
Might as well start taking down bits and pieces of the corporate/
governmental setup right now.
> Date: Tue, 11 Apr 1995 21:19:13 -0400
> From: Stainless Steel Rat <ratinox@***.NEU.EDU>
> Subject: Re: guns, guns, guns...
>
> >>>>> "Robert" == Robert Watkins <bob@**.NTU.EDU.AU>
writes:
>
> Robert> No... in the 1700's the British Government (the Crown didn't have
> Robert> too much to do with it) said a bunch of scruffy peasants aren't
> Robert> going to win a rebellion. The arms level was about right.
>
> Picky, picky. Just remember that at the time, the British Army was
> considered to be one of the most feared fighting forces in the world, and
> the British Navy one of the most feared naval forces. And that bunch of
> scruffy peasants not only defeated them, but forced them to retreat.
Much the same as Vietnam, eh? It was as much a victory in the media/
popular opinion ("Who needs those barbarians in our empire anyway? If
they're going to be such a bother, let them have their contenent with the
rest of the barbarians!") as it was a military victory.
[...]
> And finally, not being a US citizen yourself, where do you get off saying
> that our laws need to be changed?
I'm a US citizen and I say that there should be a change in the laws.
You should need to be trained in the proper use of a weapon before being
able to purchase it. You should go through periodic testing to maintain
such a classification. If you do not maintain such a classification you
should not be able to maintain possession of your weapons.
Dylan Northrup * northrup@*****.com * http://onyx.slu.edu/dylan.html
My views are my own and do not reflect the views of SLU, the Department
of Neurosurgery, or the Journal of Image Guided Surgery unless otherwise
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