Back to the main page

Mailing List Logs for ShadowRN

Message no. 1
From: Ereskanti@***.com Ereskanti@***.com
Subject: Pics and Tattoos (Re: Sad-Gits-R-Us)
Date: Sat, 28 Aug 1999 21:59:17 EDT
In a message dated 8/28/1999 7:24:31 PM US Eastern Standard Time,
casanova@***.passagen.se writes:

>
> > I spent $165 on a tattoo of the Shadowrun 'S' on my right leg.
> >
> > Does that make me an addict?
>
> Nah it makes you the president of the organisation that is for sure
> ... hardcore addict .... it is kinda cool thou ... got any pics of it
> to show the world ?

Ya know, I was thinking of asking this same question. Does anyone have a
"self-pic" btw? I think we should have the "ShadowRN 'Whos' Who' page
reborn. It'll give me something to do after Monday (like I don't have enough
now ;).

-K
Message no. 2
From: stefan casanova@***.passagen.se
Subject: Pics and Tattoos (Re: Sad-Gits-R-Us)
Date: Sun, 29 Aug 1999 04:50:10 +0000
> > > I spent $165 on a tattoo of the Shadowrun 'S' on my right leg.
> > >
> > > Does that make me an addict?
> >
> > Nah it makes you the president of the organisation that is for sure
> > ... hardcore addict .... it is kinda cool thou ... got any pics of it
> > to show the world ?
>
> Ya know, I was thinking of asking this same question. Does anyone have a
> "self-pic" btw? I think we should have the "ShadowRN 'Whos' Who' page

> reborn. It'll give me something to do after Monday (like I don't have enough
> now ;).

sounds like a plan to me :) i am game for that ...

.stefan


------------------------------------------------------------------------
"Frag you and the datastream you came on!" - Sinjin the decker
------------------------------------------------------------------------
... E-Mail .............................. casanova@***.passagen.se ...
... HomePage .................... http://hem.passagen.se/casanova/ ...
... ICQ ................................................... 793828 ...
------------------------------------------------------------------------
Message no. 3
From: Zebulin Magby zebulingod@*****.com
Subject: Pics and Tattoos (Re: Sad-Gits-R-Us)
Date: Sat, 28 Aug 1999 22:19:48 -0700 (PDT)
You know, I keep saying I am going to get a picture of the tattoo, but I haven't
done it yet. However, I do have a picture of me, and I would be willing to donate
space online to put up a gallery of the who's who if people wanted to do that.

Zebulin

PS: Reply to me directly if you are interested.

__________________________________________________
Do You Yahoo!?
Bid and sell for free at http://auctions.yahoo.com
Message no. 4
From: Dennis Steinmeijer dv8@********.nl
Subject: Pics and Tattoos (Re: Sad-Gits-R-Us)
Date: Sun, 29 Aug 1999 10:01:06 +0200
> > Ya know, I was thinking of asking this same question. Does anyone have
a
> > "self-pic" btw? I think we should have the "ShadowRN 'Whos' Who'
page
> > reborn. It'll give me something to do after Monday (like I don't have
enough
> > now ;).
>
> sounds like a plan to me :) i am game for that ...

I feel my IRC days flooding back to me,...boy those were some sad times.
Sure! I'm in! Where do I send the pictures to?

Dennis

"Abashed the Devil stood,...and felt how awful Goodness is..."
Message no. 5
From: MC23 mc23@**********.com
Subject: Pics and Tattoos (Re: Sad-Gits-R-Us)
Date: Sun, 29 Aug 1999 04:06:18 -0400
Once upon a time, Ereskanti@***.com wrote;

>Ya know, I was thinking of asking this same question. Does anyone have a
>"self-pic" btw? I think we should have the "ShadowRN 'Whos' Who' page
>reborn. It'll give me something to do after Monday (like I don't have
>enough now ;).

Hmmm, does anybody out there kept a copy of my "attachment test"
after we moved to this server. I never kept a digital copy of that
picture. And yes, that was me dressed as The Big C from my Cthulhu 4
President 96' party.
And never forget folks, Cops hate Karoke!

-MC23-
"Why settle for the lesser evil?"
Message no. 6
From: Gurth gurth@******.nl
Subject: Pics and Tattoos (Re: Sad-Gits-R-Us)
Date: Sun, 29 Aug 1999 12:03:15 +0200
According to Ereskanti@***.com, at 21:59 on 28 Aug 99, the word on
the street was...

> Ya know, I was thinking of asking this same question. Does anyone have a
> "self-pic" btw? I think we should have the "ShadowRN 'Whos' Who' page

> reborn.

Like the GenCon pics aren't something like that already... :) (Which
reminds me that I still have to scan the ones I took.)

--
Gurth@******.nl - http://www.xs4all.nl/~gurth/index.html
De plaag is terug...!
-> NAGEE Editor * ShadowRN GridSec * Unofficial Shadowrun Guru <-
->The Plastic Warriors Page: http://shadowrun.html.com/plasticwarriors/<-
-> The New Character Mortuary: http://www.electricferret.com/mortuary/ <-

GC3.1: GAT/! d-(dpu) s:- !a>? C+(++)@ U P L E? W(++) N o? K- w+ O V? PS+
PE Y PGP- t(+) 5++ X++ R+++>$ tv+(++) b++@ DI? D+ G(++) e h! !r(---) y?
Incubated into the First Church of the Sqooshy Ball, 21-05-1998
Message no. 7
From: Shadowpage@***.de Shadowpage@***.de
Subject: AW: Pics and Tattoos (Re: Sad-Gits-R-Us)
Date: Sun, 29 Aug 1999 12:06:19 +0200
> > > Ya know, I was thinking of asking this same question. Does anyone have
> a
> > > "self-pic" btw? I think we should have the "ShadowRN 'Whos'
Who' page
> > > reborn. It'll give me something to do after Monday (like I don't have
> enough
> > > now ;).
> >
> > sounds like a plan to me :) i am game for that ...
>
> I feel my IRC days flooding back to me,...boy those were some sad times.
> Sure! I'm in! Where do I send the pictures to?


Hey that sound interesting!!
Where do i get this pics??
Message no. 8
From: Ereskanti@***.com Ereskanti@***.com
Subject: Pics and Tattoos (Re: Sad-Gits-R-Us)
Date: Mon, 30 Aug 1999 00:13:59 EDT
In a message dated 8/29/1999 5:03:53 AM US Eastern Standard Time,
gurth@******.nl writes:

>
> > Ya know, I was thinking of asking this same question. Does anyone have
a
> > "self-pic" btw? I think we should have the "ShadowRN 'Whos'
Who' page
> > reborn.
>
> Like the GenCon pics aren't something like that already... :) (Which
> reminds me that I still have to scan the ones I took.)

Yeah, but I wanna see if we can come up with something more complete, having
a more encompassing list of everyone. Any takers?

-K
Message no. 9
From: Damian Robinson max.robinson@**.net.au
Subject: Pics and Tattoos (Re: Sad-Gits-R-Us)
Date: Mon, 30 Aug 1999 15:27:10 +1000
Ereskanti@***.com wrote:
> Yeah, but I wanna see if we can come up with something more
> complete, having a more encompassing list of everyone. Any takers?
>
> -K

I suppose I 've been convinced.

As long as most of the Brisbane mob will be in it as well...
:-{>
--
Cheers
Damian & Leigh-anne

Home Page:
http://www.geocities.com/Area51/Dreamworld/4808/

ICQ?
His #14030875
Hers #37896626
Message no. 10
From: Starrngr@***.com Starrngr@***.com
Subject: Pics and Tattoos (Re: Sad-Gits-R-Us)
Date: Mon, 30 Aug 1999 01:28:37 EDT
In a message dated 8/29/99 9:15:30 PM Pacific Daylight Time,
Ereskanti@***.com writes:

> Yeah, but I wanna see if we can come up with something more complete,
having
> a more encompassing list of everyone. Any takers?
>
> -K

Count me in. I actually already have a RL pic up on my page, I'll send ya
the URL in priv, K. (Assuming you remind me like tommorow)
Message no. 11
From: Gurth gurth@******.nl
Subject: Pics and Tattoos (Re: Sad-Gits-R-Us)
Date: Mon, 30 Aug 1999 11:02:54 +0200
According to Ereskanti@***.com, at 0:13 on 30 Aug 99, the word on
the street was...

> Yeah, but I wanna see if we can come up with something more complete, having
> a more encompassing list of everyone. Any takers?

It reminds me very much of the page Tinner set up, and then did again some
time later. I don't see why we couldn't give it a third try, sure.

--
Gurth@******.nl - http://www.xs4all.nl/~gurth/index.html
De plaag is terug...!
-> NAGEE Editor * ShadowRN GridSec * Unofficial Shadowrun Guru <-
->The Plastic Warriors Page: http://shadowrun.html.com/plasticwarriors/<-
-> The New Character Mortuary: http://www.electricferret.com/mortuary/ <-

GC3.1: GAT/! d-(dpu) s:- !a>? C+(++)@ U P L E? W(++) N o? K- w+ O V? PS+
PE Y PGP- t(+) 5++ X++ R+++>$ tv+(++) b++@ DI? D+ G(++) e h! !r(---) y?
Incubated into the First Church of the Sqooshy Ball, 21-05-1998
Message no. 12
From: Steven A. Tinner bluewizard@*****.com
Subject: Pics and Tattoos (Re: Sad-Gits-R-Us)
Date: Mon, 30 Aug 1999 05:44:47 -0400
> Yeah, but I wanna see if we can come up with something more complete,
having
> a more encompassing list of everyone. Any takers?

It reminds me very much of the page Tinner set up, and then did again some
time later. I don't see why we couldn't give it a third try, sure.

You all can feel free! ;-)
I don't have the time to head this up anymore, but I'd be glad to help
anyone who does. ;-)

Steven A. Tinner
bluewizard@*****.com
http://listen.to/tinner
"God is my co-pilot, but the Devil is my bombardier."
Message no. 13
From: Tamino tamino@**********.wow.aust.com
Subject: Pics and Tattoos (Re: Sad-Gits-R-Us)
Date: Mon, 30 Aug 1999 19:50:18 +1000
At 05:44 30/08/99 -0400, you wrote:
>> Yeah, but I wanna see if we can come up with something more complete,
>having
>> a more encompassing list of everyone. Any takers?
>
>It reminds me very much of the page Tinner set up, and then did again some
>time later. I don't see why we couldn't give it a third try, sure.
>
>You all can feel free! ;-)
>I don't have the time to head this up anymore, but I'd be glad to help
>anyone who does. ;-)

Hmm...Jes may be willing to give a go...
what do you think Lady J?



-Tamino ...All too easy

"ISTI MIRANT STELLA" - Bayeux Tapestry
tamino@**********.wow.aust.com
Message no. 14
From: Manx timburke@*******.com.au
Subject: Pics and Tattoos (Re: Sad-Gits-R-Us)
Date: Mon, 30 Aug 1999 22:34:40 +1000
At 19:50 30/08/99 +1000 Tamino wrote
>>You all can feel free! ;-)
>>I don't have the time to head this up anymore, but I'd be glad to help
>>anyone who does. ;-)
>
> Hmm...Jes may be willing to give a go...
> what do you think Lady J?
>
>
>
>-Tamino ...All too easy
>

I'll vote for Jes too.

Work's getting a bit boring hey Jes.
Nothing like a new project to occupy the time.

Must...resist...forces..of...darkness...

:)

____________________________________
Manx // timburke@*******.com.au // #950
"It's always funny until someone gets hurt
and then it's just hilarious." - Faith No More
____________________________________
Message no. 15
From: Ereskanti@***.com Ereskanti@***.com
Subject: Pics and Tattoos (Re: Sad-Gits-R-Us)
Date: Mon, 30 Aug 1999 11:54:16 EDT
In a message dated 8/30/1999 4:48:09 AM US Eastern Standard Time,
bluewizard@*****.com writes:

>
> It reminds me very much of the page Tinner set up, and then did again some
> time later. I don't see why we couldn't give it a third try, sure.
>
> You all can feel free! ;-)
> I don't have the time to head this up anymore, but I'd be glad to help
> anyone who does. ;-)

Tinner, do you have any of the "real" pictures anymore? I don't want the
jokes/crap images that some people sent in. We're real people here, lets'
show that fact.

-K
Message no. 16
From: Ereskanti@***.com Ereskanti@***.com
Subject: Pics and Tattoos (Re: Sad-Gits-R-Us)
Date: Mon, 30 Aug 1999 12:07:08 EDT
In a message dated 8/30/1999 12:29:54 AM US Eastern Standard Time,
Starrngr@***.com writes:

>
> Count me in. I actually already have a RL pic up on my page, I'll send ya
> the URL in priv, K. (Assuming you remind me like tommorow)

tomorrow??? Tomorrow *NEVER* comes!!! ;-P

-K (PS: Consider yourself reminded...and besides, your pic could be used in
another location as well with the PBEM stuff)
Message no. 17
From: Ereskanti@***.com Ereskanti@***.com
Subject: Pics and Tattoos (Re: Sad-Gits-R-Us)
Date: Mon, 30 Aug 1999 12:06:18 EDT
In a message dated 8/30/1999 12:27:20 AM US Eastern Standard Time,
max.robinson@**.net.au writes:

> > Yeah, but I wanna see if we can come up with something more
> > complete, having a more encompassing list of everyone. Any takers?
> >
> > -K
>
> I suppose I 've been convinced.
>
> As long as most of the Brisbane mob will be in it as well...
> :-{>
> --
Hey, we're all part of the list, we should all be involved if we choose to be
so.

-K :)
Message no. 18
From: Gurth gurth@******.nl
Subject: Pics and Tattoos (Re: Sad-Gits-R-Us)
Date: Mon, 30 Aug 1999 19:24:00 +0200
According to Ereskanti@***.com, at 11:54 on 30 Aug 99, the word on
the street was...

> > You all can feel free! ;-)
> > I don't have the time to head this up anymore, but I'd be glad to help
> > anyone who does. ;-)
>
> Tinner, do you have any of the "real" pictures anymore? I don't want the
> jokes/crap images that some people sent in. We're real people here, lets'
> show that fact.

Agreed. Should a page like this be set up, IMHO it should only have photos
in which you can _see_ what each person looks like. (That means you too,
MC23 :)

However, I don't have any recent (less than a few years old) photos of
myself, except the one in my passport, so I can't really give the right
example... (Though several listmembers have taken my picture at GenCon, so
perhaps that might work. This would also be a solution for lots of other
listmembers who have a similar problem, or no access to a scanner, or
whatever.)

--
Gurth@******.nl - http://www.xs4all.nl/~gurth/index.html
De plaag is terug...!
-> NAGEE Editor * ShadowRN GridSec * Unofficial Shadowrun Guru <-
->The Plastic Warriors Page: http://shadowrun.html.com/plasticwarriors/<-
-> The New Character Mortuary: http://www.electricferret.com/mortuary/ <-

GC3.1: GAT/! d-(dpu) s:- !a>? C+(++)@ U P L E? W(++) N o? K- w+ O V? PS+
PE Y PGP- t(+) 5++ X++ R+++>$ tv+(++) b++@ DI? D+ G(++) e h! !r(---) y?
Incubated into the First Church of the Sqooshy Ball, 21-05-1998
Message no. 19
From: Drashal drashal1@*****.com
Subject: Pics and Tattoos (Re: Sad-Gits-R-Us)
Date: Mon, 30 Aug 1999 10:41:20 -0700 (PDT)
so now that it looks like every one has said yes to
the idea. Where are we to send the pics

thanks
Drashal
__________________________________________________
Do You Yahoo!?
Bid and sell for free at http://auctions.yahoo.com
Message no. 20
From: Sommers sommers@*****.edu
Subject: Pics and Tattoos (Re: Sad-Gits-R-Us)
Date: Mon, 30 Aug 1999 13:00:31 -0400
At 12:07 PM 8/30/99 -0400, you wrote:
>In a message dated 8/30/1999 12:29:54 AM US Eastern Standard Time,
>Starrngr@***.com writes:
>
> >
> > Count me in. I actually already have a RL pic up on my page, I'll
> send ya
> > the URL in priv, K. (Assuming you remind me like tommorow)
>
>tomorrow??? Tomorrow *NEVER* comes!!! ;-P


I thought it was Tomorrow Never Dies...


Sommers
Insert witty quote here.
Message no. 21
From: Daniel Sauve ahsdreamwalker@****.com
Subject: Pics and Tattoos (Re: Sad-Gits-R-Us)
Date: Mon, 30 Aug 1999 14:10:23 -0400
> Agreed. Should a page like this be set up, IMHO it should only have
photos
> in which you can _see_ what each person looks like. (That means you
too,
> MC23 :)
>
> However, I don't have any recent (less than a few years old) photos
of
> myself, except the one in my passport, so I can't really give the
right
> example... (Though several listmembers have taken my picture at
GenCon, so
> perhaps that might work. This would also be a solution for lots of
other
> listmembers who have a similar problem, or no access to a scanner,
or
> whatever.)
>
Gurth! You're allowing pictures to be taken of you? How far the mighty
have fallen. :>

Daniel S. \ICQ #34560540
Kristling Dreamwalker, \AIM: Kristling
Super Dynamic Funky Urban \ Fanfic mail:
kdreamwalker@*******.com
Elf Shaman of Tomorrow! \ anything else:
ahsdreamwalker@****.com
After Hours Studios: http://www.lit.org/ahs/
Music: Temporarily down.
Message no. 22
From: Wildfire Wildfire@*************.com
Subject: Pics and Tattoos (Re: Sad-Gits-R-Us)
Date: Mon, 30 Aug 1999 14:46:04 -0400
Sommers wrote:

> At 12:07 PM 8/30/99 -0400, you wrote:
> >In a message dated 8/30/1999 12:29:54 AM US Eastern Standard Time,
> >Starrngr@***.com writes:
> >
> > >
> > > Count me in. I actually already have a RL pic up on my page, I'll
> > send ya
> > > the URL in priv, K. (Assuming you remind me like tommorow)
> >
> >tomorrow??? Tomorrow *NEVER* comes!!! ;-P
>
> I thought it was Tomorrow Never Dies...
>
> Sommers
> Insert witty quote here.

Darn. Someone beat me to it... <g>

Wildfire
Message no. 23
From: Ereskanti@***.com Ereskanti@***.com
Subject: Pics and Tattoos (Re: Sad-Gits-R-Us)
Date: Mon, 30 Aug 1999 16:11:13 EDT
In a message dated 8/30/1999 1:12:04 PM US Eastern Standard Time,
ahsdreamwalker@****.com writes:

>
> Gurth! You're allowing pictures to be taken of you? How far the mighty
> have fallen. :>

Yes, and remarkably it didn't even break the camera!!! ;-)

-K
Message no. 24
From: Steven A. Tinner bluewizard@*****.com
Subject: Pics and Tattoos (Re: Sad-Gits-R-Us)
Date: Mon, 30 Aug 1999 16:16:09 -0400
>Tinner, do you have any of the "real" pictures anymore? I don't want the
>jokes/crap images that some people sent in. We're real people here, lets'
>show that fact.

No. Sorry.
I lost most of my website a few months back, and all that older stuff was
what got purged.
For all the file backups I do at work, you'd think I'd learn my lesson at
home! :-P

Steven A. Tinner
bluewizard@*****.com
http://listen.to/tinner
"God is my co-pilot, but the Devil is my bombardier."
Message no. 25
From: Ereskanti@***.com Ereskanti@***.com
Subject: Pics and Tattoos (Re: Sad-Gits-R-Us)
Date: Mon, 30 Aug 1999 16:09:21 EDT
In a message dated 8/30/1999 12:44:19 PM US Eastern Standard Time,
drashal1@*****.com writes:

>
> so now that it looks like every one has said yes to
> the idea. Where are we to send the pics
>
Good question. Who has room on their website? We've got some left (between
Eres and HHH)...anyone else??? Gurth, your limits are?

-K
Message no. 26
From: Ereskanti@***.com Ereskanti@***.com
Subject: Pics and Tattoos (Re: Sad-Gits-R-Us)
Date: Mon, 30 Aug 1999 16:10:02 EDT
In a message dated 8/30/1999 12:49:31 PM US Eastern Standard Time,
sommers@*****.edu writes:

>
> >tomorrow??? Tomorrow *NEVER* comes!!! ;-P
>
>
> I thought it was Tomorrow Never Dies...

Tomorrow can't ever Die if it hasn't ever...oh forget it... ;-)

-K
Message no. 27
From: Dvixen dvixen@****.com
Subject: Pics and Tattoos (Re: Sad-Gits-R-Us)
Date: Mon, 30 Aug 1999 14:00:31 -0700
>> so now that it looks like every one has said yes to
>> the idea. Where are we to send the pics

>Good question. Who has room on their website? We've got some left (between
>Eres and HHH)...anyone else??? Gurth, your limits are?

HL has space.
--
Dvixen - dvixen@****.com =-=-= Gallery - http://members.home.com/dvixen
Herkimer's Lair - http://shadowrun.html.com/hlair
"What's your sign?" - "Trespassers will be shot."
Comments/Questions accepted, flames dropped into the abyss.
Message no. 28
From: Lady Jestyr jestyr@*********.html.com
Subject: Pics and Tattoos (Re: Sad-Gits-R-Us)
Date: Tue, 31 Aug 1999 07:12:45 +1000
>>You all can feel free! ;-)
>>I don't have the time to head this up anymore, but I'd be glad to help
>>anyone who does. ;-)
>
> Hmm...Jes may be willing to give a go...
> what do you think Lady J?

I'm happy to have a go at it - I already have pics of a lot of folk anyway
(*bwahahaha* and all that). I think, in my
bleary-I've-just-had-fourteen-hours-sleep state, that someone else has
already volunteered to organize one... but if no-one else does, I'm happy
to do it.

Lady Jestyr
~ Hell hath no fury like a geek with a whippersnipper ~

* jestyr@*****.com | URL: http://www.geocities.com/~jestyr *
Message no. 29
From: Lady Jestyr jestyr@*********.html.com
Subject: Pics and Tattoos (Re: Sad-Gits-R-Us)
Date: Tue, 31 Aug 1999 07:18:08 +1000
>> so now that it looks like every one has said yes to
>> the idea. Where are we to send the pics
>>
>Good question. Who has room on their website? We've got some left (between
>Eres and HHH)...anyone else??? Gurth, your limits are?

Being on s.h.c I've got unlimited space, pending the wishes of the Great
God Mark Imbriaco (*bow* *scrape*)

Lady Jestyr
~ Hell hath no fury like a geek with a whippersnipper ~

* jestyr@*****.com | URL: http://www.geocities.com/~jestyr *
Message no. 30
From: Manx timburke@*******.com.au
Subject: Pics and Tattoos (Re: Sad-Gits-R-Us)
Date: Tue, 31 Aug 1999 07:48:17 +1000
At 07:12 31/08/99 +1000 Lady Jestyr wrote
>I'm happy to have a go at it - I already have pics of a lot of folk anyway

Shhhhh don't tell them all about the secret government photo archive.

>(*bwahahaha* and all that). I think, in my
>bleary-I've-just-had-fourteen-hours-sleep state, that someone else has
>already volunteered to organize one... but if no-one else does, I'm happy
>to do it.
>
>Lady Jestyr

That's damn criminal that you've had 14 hours sleep.
I'm insanely jealous......

____________________________________
Manx // timburke@*******.com.au // #950
"It's always funny until someone gets hurt
and then it's just hilarious." - Faith No More
____________________________________
Message no. 31
From: Bull bull@*******.net
Subject: Pics and Tattoos (Re: Sad-Gits-R-Us)
Date: Mon, 30 Aug 1999 18:19:24 -0400 (EDT)
At 07:12 AM 8/31/99 +1000, Lady Jestyr wrote these timeless words:
>
>I'm happy to have a go at it - I already have pics of a lot of folk anyway
>(*bwahahaha* and all that). I think, in my
>bleary-I've-just-had-fourteen-hours-sleep state, that someone else has
>already volunteered to organize one... but if no-one else does, I'm happy
>to do it.
>
Well, I've got space, considering how little my page actually takes up...
I'd be happy to donate space, if someone else actually wants to do the work
<grin> I suck at HTML :]

Bull
--
Bull -- The Best Ork Decker You Never Met
bull@*******.net ===== bull22@***********.com
http://shadowrun.html.com/users/bull
ICQ: 35931890
====================================================== =
= Order is Illusion! Chaos is Bliss! Got any Fours? = =
======================================================
"Animals have 2 jobs: To taste good and to fit well."
-- Greg Proops, "Vs."
Message no. 32
From: Patrick Goodman remo@***.net
Subject: Pics and Tattoos (Re: Sad-Gits-R-Us)
Date: Mon, 30 Aug 1999 17:56:11 -0500
> Must...resist...forces..of...darkness...

But why?

--
(>) Texas 2-Step
El Paso: Never surrender. Never forget. Never forgive.
Message no. 33
From: Patrick Goodman remo@***.net
Subject: Pics and Tattoos (Re: Sad-Gits-R-Us)
Date: Mon, 30 Aug 1999 18:24:12 -0500
> Agreed. Should a page like this be set up, IMHO it should only have
> photos in which you can _see_ what each person looks like. (That
> means you too, MC23 :)

If it matters, some old pictures of me can be found at the long-neglected
URL http://users.arn.net/~remo; feel free to go there and ridicule the
place. Be warned: There's almost nothing there more recent than 1997.

--
(>) Texas 2-Step
El Paso: Never surrender. Never forget. Never forgive.
Message no. 34
From: Patrick Goodman remo@***.net
Subject: Pics and Tattoos (Re: Sad-Gits-R-Us)
Date: Mon, 30 Aug 1999 18:24:16 -0500
> > > (Assuming you remind me like tommorow)
> >
> >tomorrow??? Tomorrow *NEVER* comes!!! ;-P
>
> I thought it was Tomorrow Never Dies...

Unless you're in an old Frank Sinatra song (in this case, "Tonight Domini").

--
(>) Texas 2-Step
El Paso: Never surrender. Never forget. Never forgive.
Message no. 35
From: abortion_engine abortion_engine@*******.com
Subject: Pics and Tattoos (Re: Sad-Gits-R-Us)
Date: Mon, 30 Aug 1999 22:02:46 -0400
I'm not certain you guys want to see pictures of me.

I think I'm joking, but I'm never sure.
Message no. 36
From: MC23 mc23@**********.com
Subject: Pics and Tattoos (Re: Sad-Gits-R-Us)
Date: Mon, 30 Aug 1999 22:37:11 -0400
Once upon a time, Gurth wrote;

>Agreed. Should a page like this be set up, IMHO it should only have photos
>in which you can _see_ what each person looks like. (That means you too,
>MC23 :)

Sorry, I'm not into yearbook type pictures. The closest thing I have
anyway is from MOC 8, I think, back when I was 23 (the first time B>P# ).
That was an action shot anyway. My hair is a wee bit shorter now as well.
So once again I will have to decline. The chance to see what someone
looks like is fine but I don't care for the importance placed upon it. If
the only way someone can get in a who's who is to have a picture then I
find the endeavor misdirected. I have no problem with bios although I'll
admit I'm more curious to how others see me so I'd rather have somebody
else write my bio anyway.

<><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><>

Ancient cultures believed that names held great power, personal names
more so and they were guarded very closely. To protect themselves, they
answered to another name, because if another discovered their real name,
it could be used against them.
History repeats itself.
Welcome to the Digital Age.
I am MC23
Message no. 37
From: MC23 mc23@**********.com
Subject: Pics and Tattoos (Re: Sad-Gits-R-Us)
Date: Mon, 30 Aug 1999 23:04:02 -0400
Once upon a time, Ereskanti@***.com wrote;

>Tinner, do you have any of the "real" pictures anymore? I don't want the
>jokes/crap images that some people sent in. We're real people here, lets'
>show that fact.

Go screw yourself. The Eeyore doll (which still sits on my computer)
means a lot to me and my friends do see him as a reflection of my
personality as well. That picture was originally used on a friend's
website because it was so fitting (especially since I shun the camera).
I am a real person and not some presentation put forth. Pictures are
all pretense, nothing but a desired projected image. They give you the
illusion of familiarity without any understanding of the person at all.
There is something wrong if you need an image to feel any type of
closeness to a person.

<><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><>

Many people bury their demons away never to be seen. Others deny the
existance of theirs. A rare few can make peace with their demons and find
tranquility. I take mine out for coffee and sometimes, I let them drive.

I am MC23
Message no. 38
From: Ereskanti@***.com Ereskanti@***.com
Subject: Pics and Tattoos (Re: Sad-Gits-R-Us)
Date: Mon, 30 Aug 1999 22:55:16 EDT
In a message dated 8/30/1999 4:33:19 PM US Eastern Standard Time,
jestyr@*********.html.com writes:

>
> I'm happy to have a go at it - I already have pics of a lot of folk anyway
> (*bwahahaha* and all that). I think, in my
> bleary-I've-just-had-fourteen-hours-sleep state, that someone else has
> already volunteered to organize one... but if no-one else does, I'm happy
> to do it.

I know that I have a few pics running loose, but in all honesty I would
rather save the space on HHH for upcoming stuff (classified...and I do mean
it this time). But, the other option would be to at least create a central
"link section" for all the player/people pics we can get.

-K
Message no. 39
From: Ereskanti@***.com Ereskanti@***.com
Subject: Pics and Tattoos (Re: Sad-Gits-R-Us)
Date: Mon, 30 Aug 1999 22:56:33 EDT
In a message dated 8/30/1999 4:34:00 PM US Eastern Standard Time,
jestyr@*********.html.com writes:

>
> Being on s.h.c I've got unlimited space, pending the wishes of the Great
> God Mark Imbriaco (*bow* *scrape*)

Oh that would be nice, I do have to admit...

-K
Message no. 40
From: Ereskanti@***.com Ereskanti@***.com
Subject: Pics and Tattoos (Re: Sad-Gits-R-Us)
Date: Mon, 30 Aug 1999 22:53:20 EDT
In a message dated 8/30/1999 4:02:08 PM US Eastern Standard Time,
dvixen@****.com writes:

>
> >Good question. Who has room on their website? We've got some left (
> between
> >Eres and HHH)...anyone else??? Gurth, your limits are?
>
> HL has space.

Seems cool. Anyone else?

-K
Message no. 41
From: Ereskanti@***.com Ereskanti@***.com
Subject: Pics and Tattoos (Re: Sad-Gits-R-Us)
Date: Mon, 30 Aug 1999 23:19:59 EDT
In a message dated 8/30/1999 9:37:53 PM US Eastern Standard Time,
mc23@**********.com writes:

> Sorry, I'm not into yearbook type pictures. The closest thing I have
> anyway is from MOC 8, I think, back when I was 23 (the first time B>P# ).
> That was an action shot anyway. My hair is a wee bit shorter now as well.
> So once again I will have to decline. The chance to see what someone
> looks like is fine but I don't care for the importance placed upon it. If
> the only way someone can get in a who's who is to have a picture then I
> find the endeavor misdirected. I have no problem with bios although I'll
> admit I'm more curious to how others see me so I'd rather have somebody
> else write my bio anyway.

Lehlan, are you still around? I know of only two people on this list who
even have the beginning ability to write a bio on MC23, because he's made
certain to keep information about himself at a distance.

-K
Message no. 42
From: Dvixen dvixen@****.com
Subject: Pics and Tattoos (Re: Sad-Gits-R-Us)
Date: Mon, 30 Aug 1999 22:46:13 -0700
At 11:04 PM 30/08/99 , MC23 annoyed me by writing:
>Once upon a time, Ereskanti@***.com wrote;
>
>>Tinner, do you have any of the "real" pictures anymore? I don't want
the
>>jokes/crap images that some people sent in. We're real people here, lets'
>>show that fact.
>
> Go screw yourself. The Eeyore doll (which still sits on my computer)
>means a lot to me and my friends do see him as a reflection of my
>personality as well. That picture was originally used on a friend's
>website because it was so fitting (especially since I shun the camera).
> I am a real person and not some presentation put forth. Pictures are
>all pretense, nothing but a desired projected image. They give you the
>illusion of familiarity without any understanding of the person at all.
>There is something wrong if you need an image to feel any type of
>closeness to a person.

Valid points, both of you, however, next time, be a bit nicer about it.

Now, go sit in the corner, and shush.

--
Dvixen - dvixen@****.com - ShadowRN GridSec Consultant (100¥/hr)
Of course I know where the bodies are buried! I've got the FSH!
ShadowRN FAQ - http://shadowrun.html.com/hlair/faqindex.php3
Keeper of the Rabid Woodchuck - Blue Moon Pesterer of The DLOH
Message no. 43
From: Lady Jestyr jestyr@*********.html.com
Subject: Pics and Tattoos (Re: Sad-Gits-R-Us)
Date: Tue, 31 Aug 1999 16:47:33 +1000
>>I'm happy to have a go at it - I already have pics of a lot of folk anyway
>
>Shhhhh don't tell them all about the secret government photo archive.

Oh damn. Err... ahh... it's okay, folks, really. Trust us. We're the
government!

>>(*bwahahaha* and all that). I think, in my
>>bleary-I've-just-had-fourteen-hours-sleep state, that someone else has
>>already volunteered to organize one... but if no-one else does, I'm happy
>>to do it.
>>
>>Lady Jestyr
>
>That's damn criminal that you've had 14 hours sleep.
>I'm insanely jealous......

*sweet smile*

It's okay; previously I'd only had ten hours sleep in four days (thanks to
Cullyn and his henchmen... errr, henchpersons) so I was catching up.

Lady Jestyr
~ Hell hath no fury like a geek with a whippersnipper ~

* jestyr@*****.com | URL: http://www.geocities.com/~jestyr *
Message no. 44
From: Lady Jestyr jestyr@*********.html.com
Subject: Pics and Tattoos (Re: Sad-Gits-R-Us)
Date: Tue, 31 Aug 1999 16:50:18 +1000
>I know that I have a few pics running loose, but in all honesty I would
>rather save the space on HHH for upcoming stuff (classified...and I do mean
>it this time). But, the other option would be to at least create a central
>"link section" for all the player/people pics we can get.

Well, if you're limited on space, I hereby officially volunteer to host
this. I can code HTML in my sleep, and I have unlimited space on Deep
Resonance, so I'll have a go.

Friends, Romans, Listmembers - send me your pictures! :-)

PRIVATE email please. Thankyou ;-)

Lady Jestyr
~ Hell hath no fury like a geek with a whippersnipper ~

* jestyr@*****.com | URL: http://www.geocities.com/~jestyr *
Message no. 45
From: Gurth gurth@******.nl
Subject: Pics and Tattoos (Re: Sad-Gits-R-Us)
Date: Tue, 31 Aug 1999 12:05:06 +0200
According to Ereskanti@***.com, at 16:09 on 30 Aug 99, the word on
the street was...

> Good question. Who has room on their website? We've got some left (between
> Eres and HHH)...anyone else??? Gurth, your limits are?

15 megs at XS4ALL, and just about unlimited at shadowrun.html.com, AFAIK.
I'm not entirely sure how much space I'm using at my XS4ALL account, but I
guess it's about 10 MB. Plenty of room to host a picture archive for a
couple dozen listmembers, I'd say.

--
Gurth@******.nl - http://www.xs4all.nl/~gurth/index.html
De plaag is terug...!
-> NAGEE Editor * ShadowRN GridSec * Unofficial Shadowrun Guru <-
->The Plastic Warriors Page: http://shadowrun.html.com/plasticwarriors/<-
-> The New Character Mortuary: http://www.electricferret.com/mortuary/ <-

GC3.1: GAT/! d-(dpu) s:- !a>? C+(++)@ U P L E? W(++) N o? K- w+ O V? PS+
PE Y PGP- t(+) 5++ X++ R+++>$ tv+(++) b++@ DI? D+ G(++) e h! !r(---) y?
Incubated into the First Church of the Sqooshy Ball, 21-05-1998
Message no. 46
From: Gurth gurth@******.nl
Subject: Pics and Tattoos (Re: Sad-Gits-R-Us)
Date: Tue, 31 Aug 1999 12:05:06 +0200
According to Ereskanti@***.com, at 16:11 on 30 Aug 99, the word on
the street was...

> > Gurth! You're allowing pictures to be taken of you? How far the mighty
> > have fallen. :>
>
> Yes, and remarkably it didn't even break the camera!!! ;-)

Unfortunately, my counterpart to Keiths picture of me failed, because my
flash apparently didn't work :(

--
Gurth@******.nl - http://www.xs4all.nl/~gurth/index.html
De plaag is terug...!
-> NAGEE Editor * ShadowRN GridSec * Unofficial Shadowrun Guru <-
->The Plastic Warriors Page: http://shadowrun.html.com/plasticwarriors/<-
-> The New Character Mortuary: http://www.electricferret.com/mortuary/ <-

GC3.1: GAT/! d-(dpu) s:- !a>? C+(++)@ U P L E? W(++) N o? K- w+ O V? PS+
PE Y PGP- t(+) 5++ X++ R+++>$ tv+(++) b++@ DI? D+ G(++) e h! !r(---) y?
Incubated into the First Church of the Sqooshy Ball, 21-05-1998
Message no. 47
From: Gurth gurth@******.nl
Subject: Pics and Tattoos (Re: Sad-Gits-R-Us)
Date: Tue, 31 Aug 1999 12:05:06 +0200
According to Daniel Sauve, at 14:10 on 30 Aug 99, the word on
the street was...

> Gurth! You're allowing pictures to be taken of you? How far the mighty
> have fallen. :>

Hey, I can't really refuse after I've taken _their_ picture, can I? :)

--
Gurth@******.nl - http://www.xs4all.nl/~gurth/index.html
De plaag is terug...!
-> NAGEE Editor * ShadowRN GridSec * Unofficial Shadowrun Guru <-
->The Plastic Warriors Page: http://shadowrun.html.com/plasticwarriors/<-
-> The New Character Mortuary: http://www.electricferret.com/mortuary/ <-

GC3.1: GAT/! d-(dpu) s:- !a>? C+(++)@ U P L E? W(++) N o? K- w+ O V? PS+
PE Y PGP- t(+) 5++ X++ R+++>$ tv+(++) b++@ DI? D+ G(++) e h! !r(---) y?
Incubated into the First Church of the Sqooshy Ball, 21-05-1998
Message no. 48
From: Gurth gurth@******.nl
Subject: Pics and Tattoos (Re: Sad-Gits-R-Us)
Date: Tue, 31 Aug 1999 12:05:06 +0200
According to Dvixen, at 14:00 on 30 Aug 99, the word on
the street was...

> HL has space.

Okay, so now that several of us s.h.c-people have mentioned that that site
has all the space we could wish for, how about setting up a separate
section there? Or maybe at jackpoint.org (but keep it away from the
general public, else they might look at the pics before subscribing, and
be scared away :)

--
Gurth@******.nl - http://www.xs4all.nl/~gurth/index.html
De plaag is terug...!
-> NAGEE Editor * ShadowRN GridSec * Unofficial Shadowrun Guru <-
->The Plastic Warriors Page: http://shadowrun.html.com/plasticwarriors/<-
-> The New Character Mortuary: http://www.electricferret.com/mortuary/ <-

GC3.1: GAT/! d-(dpu) s:- !a>? C+(++)@ U P L E? W(++) N o? K- w+ O V? PS+
PE Y PGP- t(+) 5++ X++ R+++>$ tv+(++) b++@ DI? D+ G(++) e h! !r(---) y?
Incubated into the First Church of the Sqooshy Ball, 21-05-1998
Message no. 49
From: Lady Jestyr jestyr@*********.html.com
Subject: Pics and Tattoos (Re: Sad-Gits-R-Us)
Date: Tue, 31 Aug 1999 20:32:45 +1000
>> HL has space.
>
>Okay, so now that several of us s.h.c-people have mentioned that that site
>has all the space we could wish for, how about setting up a separate
>section there? Or maybe at jackpoint.org (but keep it away from the
>general public, else they might look at the pics before subscribing, and
>be scared away :)

Well, I'll set it up, since several people have already mailed pics to me.
May as well. ;-)

Lady Jestyr
~ Hell hath no fury like a geek with a whippersnipper ~

* jestyr@*****.com | URL: http://www.geocities.com/~jestyr *
Message no. 50
From: Thomas thomas041179@***.de
Subject: Pics and Tattoos (Re: Sad-Gits-R-Us)
Date: Tue, 31 Aug 1999 16:04:49 +0200
I too have some space (25MB) left, but I have the hunch, that I've been misunderstand.
What I meant to collect was not pictures of the players, but pictures of your
characters...
If anybody is interested in a Character-pics - collection feel free to tell me.
I would be happy to host something like this...
Message no. 51
From: Daniel Sauve ahsdreamwalker@****.com
Subject: Pics and Tattoos (Re: Sad-Gits-R-Us)
Date: Tue, 31 Aug 1999 10:53:46 -0400
Mommy! The Rascal Gurth said...
> > HL has space.
>
> Okay, so now that several of us s.h.c-people have mentioned that
that site
> has all the space we could wish for, how about setting up a separate
> section there? Or maybe at jackpoint.org (but keep it away from the
> general public, else they might look at the pics before subscribing,
and
> be scared away :)
<Closes eyes, very quiet> Ouch...

We're so self deficating.

Daniel S. \ICQ #34560540
Kristling Dreamwalker, \AIM: Kristling
Super Dynamic Funky Urban \ Fanfic mail:
kdreamwalker@*******.com
Elf Shaman of Tomorrow! \ anything else:
ahsdreamwalker@****.com
After Hours Studios: http://www.lit.org/ahs/
Music: Temporarily down.
Message no. 52
From: Daniel Sauve ahsdreamwalker@****.com
Subject: Pics and Tattoos (Re: Sad-Gits-R-Us)
Date: Tue, 31 Aug 1999 11:01:33 -0400
And now, in my "Otto" John Clease voice, Oh, no! It's I'm sorry It's
Gurth again, _again_!
> > Gurth! You're allowing pictures to be taken of you? How far the
mighty
> > have fallen. :>
>
> Hey, I can't really refuse after I've taken _their_ picture, can I?
:)
<Sniff> My childhood illusions... shattered...
Message no. 53
From: Daniel Sauve ahsdreamwalker@****.com
Subject: Pics and Tattoos (Re: Sad-Gits-R-Us)
Date: Tue, 31 Aug 1999 11:01:55 -0400
And now, in my "Otto" John Clease voice, Oh, no! It's I'm sorry It's
Gurth again, _again_!
> > Gurth! You're allowing pictures to be taken of you? How far the
mighty
> > have fallen. :>
>
> Hey, I can't really refuse after I've taken _their_ picture, can I?
:)
<Sniff> My childhood illusions... shattered...
Daniel S. \ICQ #34560540
Kristling Dreamwalker, \AIM: Kristling
Super Dynamic Funky Urban \ Fanfic mail:
kdreamwalker@*******.com
Elf Shaman of Tomorrow! \ anything else:
ahsdreamwalker@****.com
After Hours Studios: http://www.lit.org/ahs/
Music: Temporarily down.
Message no. 54
From: Daniel Sauve ahsdreamwalker@****.com
Subject: Pics and Tattoos (Re: Sad-Gits-R-Us)
Date: Tue, 31 Aug 1999 11:01:59 -0400
And now, in my "Otto" John Clease voice, Oh, no! It's I'm sorry It's
Gurth again, _again_!
> > Gurth! You're allowing pictures to be taken of you? How far the
mighty
> > have fallen. :>
>
> Hey, I can't really refuse after I've taken _their_ picture, can I?
:)
<Sniff> My childhood illusions... shattered...
Daniel S. \ICQ #34560540
Kristling Dreamwalker, \AIM: Kristling
Super Dynamic Funky Urban \ Fanfic mail:
kdreamwalker@*******.com
Elf Shaman of Tomorrow! \ anything else:
ahsdreamwalker@****.com
After Hours Studios: http://www.lit.org/ahs/
Music: Temporarily down.
Message no. 55
From: Patrick Goodman remo@***.net
Subject: Pics and Tattoos (Re: Sad-Gits-R-Us)
Date: Tue, 31 Aug 1999 10:36:45 -0500
><Closes eyes, very quiet> Ouch...
>
>We're so self deficating.

<Inigo>
You keep using that word. I do not think it means what you think it means.
</Inigo>

I think the word you're looking for here is self-DEPRECATING (emphasis mine).

Patrick
Message no. 56
From: Gurth gurth@******.nl
Subject: Pics and Tattoos (Re: Sad-Gits-R-Us)
Date: Tue, 31 Aug 1999 19:12:03 +0200
According to Lady Jestyr, at 20:32 on 31 Aug 99, the word on
the street was...

> Well, I'll set it up, since several people have already mailed pics to me.
> May as well. ;-)

Well yeah, I can do it that way too -- make sure you get the pictures, and
only then announce that you'll do it ;)

--
Gurth@******.nl - http://www.xs4all.nl/~gurth/index.html
De plaag is terug...!
-> NAGEE Editor * ShadowRN GridSec * Unofficial Shadowrun Guru <-
->The Plastic Warriors Page: http://shadowrun.html.com/plasticwarriors/<-
-> The New Character Mortuary: http://www.electricferret.com/mortuary/ <-

GC3.1: GAT/! d-(dpu) s:- !a>? C+(++)@ U P L E? W(++) N o? K- w+ O V? PS+
PE Y PGP- t(+) 5++ X++ R+++>$ tv+(++) b++@ DI? D+ G(++) e h! !r(---) y?
Incubated into the First Church of the Sqooshy Ball, 21-05-1998
Message no. 57
From: Ereskanti@***.com Ereskanti@***.com
Subject: Pics and Tattoos (Re: Sad-Gits-R-Us)
Date: Tue, 31 Aug 1999 15:03:29 EDT
In a message dated 8/31/1999 5:29:47 AM US Eastern Standard Time,
gurth@******.nl writes:

> > > Gurth! You're allowing pictures to be taken of you? How far the mighty
> > > have fallen. :>
> >
> > Yes, and remarkably it didn't even break the camera!!! ;-)
>
> Unfortunately, my counterpart to Keiths picture of me failed, because my
> flash apparently didn't work :(

Really, the "flash" is in the picture...I think...(shrug)
-K
Message no. 58
From: Mark Fender markf@******.com
Subject: Pics and Tattoos (Re: Sad-Gits-R-Us)
Date: Tue, 31 Aug 1999 15:20:08 -0500
> > I am a real person and not some presentation put forth. Pictures are
>
> >all pretense, nothing but a desired projected image. They give you the
> >illusion of familiarity without any understanding of the person at all.
> >There is something wrong if you need an image to feel any type of
> >closeness to a person.
>
In actuality, you do need an image to feel closeness to a person. It has
been scientifically documented that people who stare deeply into each others
eyes (as opposed to talking on the phone, holding hands while sitting right
next to each other) report more feelings of closeness than others.

Of course, this is the internet and one of the great joys of the internet is
not being stereotyped by what you might look like (allowing you to screw up
your relationships with others based on what you say, rather than how you
look). The world is heading to that whole global village thing everyone was
spouting a few years back.

So, a question on topic: Does having character sketches of prominent NPCs
aid you in personifying said NPCS? Elhran, Harlequin, and Lugh Surehand
spring to mind of NPCs we do have pictures of, while Damien Knight,
Fastjack, and others are still up in the air? Which do you find easier to
personify?
Message no. 59
From: Lady Jestyr jestyr@*********.html.com
Subject: Pics and Tattoos (Re: Sad-Gits-R-Us)
Date: Wed, 01 Sep 1999 08:08:43 +1000
>> Well, I'll set it up, since several people have already mailed pics to me.
>> May as well. ;-)
>
>Well yeah, I can do it that way too -- make sure you get the pictures, and
>only then announce that you'll do it ;)

You must have missed it, but I had already officially volunteered on-list
to do it, before people started mailing me pics. However, if it's just
going to destroy your life not to do it, I'll forward the pics to you and
you can do it instead. Let me know.

Lady Jestyr
~ Hell hath no fury like a geek with a whippersnipper ~

* jestyr@*****.com | URL: http://www.geocities.com/~jestyr *
Message no. 60
From: IronRaven cyberraven@********.net
Subject: Pics and Tattoos (Re: Sad-Gits-R-Us)
Date: Tue, 31 Aug 1999 19:33:18 -0400
At 15.20 08-31-99 -0500, you wrote:
>Fastjack, and others are still up in the air? Which do you find easier to
>personify?

Would you include fairly detailed word sketches and enough personal
discussions and data to get a feel for who they are? If no, not always.


Kevin Dole, aka CyberRaven, aka IronRaven, aka Steel Tengu
http://members.xoom.com/iron_raven/
"Once again, we have spat in the face of Death and his second cousin,
Dismemberment."
"There are more things in heaven and earth, Horatio, than are dreamt of in
your philosophy."
Message no. 61
From: Ray and Tamara macey@***.com.au
Subject: Pics and Tattoos (Re: Sad-Gits-R-Us)
Date: Wed, 1 Sep 1999 12:37:17 +1000
----- Original Message -----
From: Mark Fender <markf@******.com>
To: <shadowrn@*********.org>
Sent: Wednesday, September 01, 1999 6:20 AM
Subject: RE: Pics and Tattoos (Re: Sad-Gits-R-Us)


> In actuality, you do need an image to feel closeness to a person. It has
> been scientifically documented that people who stare deeply into each
others
> eyes (as opposed to talking on the phone, holding hands while sitting
right
> next to each other) report more feelings of closeness than others.

But is that because those people who need images/faces etc for closeness
intrinsically seek it out, thus feeling closer when they do it this way?

NightRain.

+--------------------------------------------------------------------+
| Whatever you do, don't vote! |
| It will only encourage them. |
| ============================== |
| http://nightrain.pagehub.com |
| http://earthdawn.pagehub.com |
| email:nightrain@***.com.au |
+--------------------------------------------------------------------+
Message no. 62
From: MC23 mc23@**********.com
Subject: Pics and Tattoos (Re: Sad-Gits-R-Us)
Date: Wed, 1 Sep 1999 01:33:33 -0400
Once upon a time, Mark Fender wrote;

>In actuality, you do need an image to feel closeness to a person. It has
>been scientifically documented that people who stare deeply into each others
>eyes (as opposed to talking on the phone, holding hands while sitting right
>next to each other) report more feelings of closeness than others.

More feelings of closeness does not mean that you must have it as
you first stated. Also there is nothing that proves this feeling has any
"real" merits. Writers have always had a profound effect on their readers
through out the ages with having their picture adorned on their books. We
could also discuss various religions which do not promote any sort of
graven image and whether that effects their faith.
Truth be told, man as a whole is a visually driven creature. This
can lead to many deceptive conclusions. Because of this I will often
challenge such behaviors in hopes of enlightening the masses (I'd settle
for a few).

<><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><>

The brain is the dumbest organ in the human body. What else could
explain the placebo effect.

I am MC23
Message no. 63
From: Gurth gurth@******.nl
Subject: Pics and Tattoos (Re: Sad-Gits-R-Us)
Date: Wed, 1 Sep 1999 10:27:46 +0200
According to Ereskanti@***.com, at 15:03 on 31 Aug 99, the word on
the street was...

> > Unfortunately, my counterpart to Keiths picture of me failed, because my
> > flash apparently didn't work :(
>
> Really, the "flash" is in the picture...I think...(shrug)

Wouldn't that be your camera's flash reflecting off the shiny bit in my
camera's flash element? At any rate, all I have is one _very_ dark photo
in which you can just make out the outline of someone holding a camera,
provided you know what's supposed to be in the picture :(

--
Gurth@******.nl - http://www.xs4all.nl/~gurth/index.html
De plaag is terug...!
-> NAGEE Editor * ShadowRN GridSec * Unofficial Shadowrun Guru <-
->The Plastic Warriors Page: http://shadowrun.html.com/plasticwarriors/<-
-> The New Character Mortuary: http://www.electricferret.com/mortuary/ <-

GC3.1: GAT/! d-(dpu) s:- !a>? C+(++)@ U P L E? W(++) N o? K- w+ O V? PS+
PE Y PGP- t(+) 5++ X++ R+++>$ tv+(++) b++@ DI? D+ G(++) e h! !r(---) y?
Incubated into the First Church of the Sqooshy Ball, 21-05-1998
Message no. 64
From: Gurth gurth@******.nl
Subject: Pics and Tattoos (Re: Sad-Gits-R-Us)
Date: Wed, 1 Sep 1999 10:27:47 +0200
According to Lady Jestyr, at 8:08 on 1 Sep 99, the word on
the street was...

> >Well yeah, I can do it that way too -- make sure you get the pictures, and
> >only then announce that you'll do it ;)
>
> You must have missed it, but I had already officially volunteered on-list
> to do it, before people started mailing me pics. However, if it's just
> going to destroy your life not to do it, I'll forward the pics to you and
> you can do it instead. Let me know.

I was joking... Guess I didn't do it right, though :) By all means, go
ahead with the page -- I've already got more stuff that I want to do than
I have time for.

--
Gurth@******.nl - http://www.xs4all.nl/~gurth/index.html
De plaag is terug...!
-> NAGEE Editor * ShadowRN GridSec * Unofficial Shadowrun Guru <-
->The Plastic Warriors Page: http://shadowrun.html.com/plasticwarriors/<-
-> The New Character Mortuary: http://www.electricferret.com/mortuary/ <-

GC3.1: GAT/! d-(dpu) s:- !a>? C+(++)@ U P L E? W(++) N o? K- w+ O V? PS+
PE Y PGP- t(+) 5++ X++ R+++>$ tv+(++) b++@ DI? D+ G(++) e h! !r(---) y?
Incubated into the First Church of the Sqooshy Ball, 21-05-1998
Message no. 65
From: Ereskanti@***.com Ereskanti@***.com
Subject: Pics and Tattoos (Re: Sad-Gits-R-Us)
Date: Wed, 1 Sep 1999 12:55:34 EDT
In a message dated 9/1/1999 3:46:52 AM US Eastern Standard Time,
gurth@******.nl writes:

>
> > Really, the "flash" is in the picture...I think...(shrug)
>
> Wouldn't that be your camera's flash reflecting off the shiny bit in my
> camera's flash element? At any rate, all I have is one _very_ dark photo
> in which you can just make out the outline of someone holding a camera,
> provided you know what's supposed to be in the picture :(

No, it's your flash. However, if you look at the picture I took, you can see
the "zone" of the flash in the entire hallway throwing shadows. That camera
of Mikes' does have a "Killer Power" to it. Also, I was standing between you
and those really big windows, so you probably got additional visual problems
there.

-K (who likes the idea of occasionally hiding from anothers' camera because
he's simply so *evil* that the shadow blots him out... ;-)
Message no. 66
From: Gurth gurth@******.nl
Subject: Pics and Tattoos (Re: Sad-Gits-R-Us)
Date: Wed, 1 Sep 1999 21:21:57 +0200
According to Ereskanti@***.com, at 12:55 on 1 Sep 99, the word on
the street was...

> No, it's your flash. However, if you look at the picture I took, you can see
> the "zone" of the flash in the entire hallway throwing shadows.

Oh well... in the end it doesn't change the fact that my photo failed :(

--
Gurth@******.nl - http://www.xs4all.nl/~gurth/index.html
De plaag is terug...!
-> NAGEE Editor * ShadowRN GridSec * Unofficial Shadowrun Guru <-
->The Plastic Warriors Page: http://shadowrun.html.com/plasticwarriors/<-
-> The New Character Mortuary: http://www.electricferret.com/mortuary/ <-

GC3.1: GAT/! d-(dpu) s:- !a>? C+(++)@ U P L E? W(++) N o? K- w+ O V? PS+
PE Y PGP- t(+) 5++ X++ R+++>$ tv+(++) b++@ DI? D+ G(++) e h! !r(---) y?
Incubated into the First Church of the Sqooshy Ball, 21-05-1998
Message no. 67
From: Thomas thomas041179@***.de
Subject: Pics and Tattoos (Re: Sad-Gits-R-Us)
Date: Fri, 3 Sep 1999 14:50:16 +0200
I too have some space (25MB) left, but I have the hunch, that I've been misunderstand.
What I meant to collect was not pictures of the players, but pictures of your
characters...
If anybody is interested in a Character-pics - collection feel free to tell me.
I would be happy to host something like this...
Message no. 68
From: Gurth gurth@******.nl
Subject: Pics and Tattoos (Re: Sad-Gits-R-Us)
Date: Sat, 4 Sep 1999 11:44:15 +0200
According to Thomas, at 14:50 on 3 Sep 99, the word on
the street was...

> I too have some space (25MB) left, but I have the hunch, that I've been
> misunderstand. What I meant to collect was not pictures of the players,
> but pictures of your characters... If anybody is interested in a
> Character-pics - collection feel free to tell me. I would be happy to
> host something like this...

It's a good idea, too, but it hinges on the assumption that good
roleplayers are good artists as well :) I know I most certainly am not, so
I don't have anything to contribute to an archive like this, and I guess
this goes for the majority of the people on this list... (Unless you want
an archive full of Dirk Benedict pictures ;)

--
Gurth@******.nl - http://www.xs4all.nl/~gurth/index.html
De plaag is terug...!
-> NAGEE Editor * ShadowRN GridSec * Unofficial Shadowrun Guru <-
->The Plastic Warriors Page: http://shadowrun.html.com/plasticwarriors/<-
-> The New Character Mortuary: http://www.electricferret.com/mortuary/ <-

GC3.1: GAT/! d-(dpu) s:- !a>? C+(++)@ U P L E? W(++) N o? K- w+ O V? PS+
PE Y PGP- t(+) 5++ X++ R+++>$ tv+(++) b++@ DI? D+ G(++) e h! !r(---) y?
Incubated into the First Church of the Sqooshy Ball, 21-05-1998
Message no. 69
From: Thomas thomas041179@***.de
Subject: Pics and Tattoos (Re: Sad-Gits-R-Us)
Date: Sat, 4 Sep 1999 14:50:29 +0200
-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-----
Hash: SHA1


> According to Thomas, at 14:50 on 3 Sep 99, the word on
> the street was...
>
> > I too have some space (25MB) left, but I have the hunch, that I've
been
> > misunderstand. What I meant to collect was not pictures of the
players,
> > but pictures of your characters... If anybody is interested in a
> > Character-pics - collection feel free to tell me. I would be happy
to
> > host something like this...
>
> It's a good idea, too, but it hinges on the assumption that good
> roleplayers are good artists as well :) I know I most certainly am
not, so
> I don't have anything to contribute to an archive like this, and I
guess
> this goes for the majority of the people on this list... (Unless you
want
> an archive full of Dirk Benedict pictures ;)

This might be true... I once knew a girl capable of drawing really
good character pics...
But she was a lousy role-player...

But I still hope that some of you out there might be capable of BOTH,
drawing and roleplaying...
So send me you pics... By the way: You can do great things with the PC
(Personal Computer, bot Player characters) to get good pics...

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE-----
Version: PGPfreeware 6.0.2i

iQA/AwUBN9EHhh9VNWwCaFLIEQJKJQCg6duoW0lBfU1yDo/DsBSl5Dz0YZMAn0b0
epIsZn5xYTFFiGx/rl5Eo5Mq
=xJty
-----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

Further Reading

If you enjoyed reading about Pics and Tattoos (Re: Sad-Gits-R-Us), you may also be interested in:

Disclaimer

These messages were posted a long time ago on a mailing list far, far away. The copyright to their contents probably lies with the original authors of the individual messages, but since they were published in an electronic forum that anyone could subscribe to, and the logs were available to subscribers and most likely non-subscribers as well, it's felt that re-publishing them here is a kind of public service.

Thwap!