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Message no. 1
From: David Buehrer <dbuehrer@******.CARL.ORG>
Subject: Re: Place Books
Date: Wed, 8 Jul 1998 14:44:35 -0600
Gurth wrote:
/
/ Then you're the first person I know of who thinks a sourcebook
/ about their area is a good one :) Most other Germans I've talked
/ to about DidS don't like it, to varying degrees...

The Denver Sourcebook is pretty good. I had to move a couple of things
around and the writers had no idea we were going to spend 2 Billion $ on a
new airport. But other than that I like it. <shrug>

/ Let's round this off with a quote: "A person shouldn't believe in
/ an ism. They should believe in themselves." :)

Sid Ceaser

-David
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Message no. 2
From: Wordman <wordman@*******.COM>
Subject: Re: Place Books
Date: Wed, 8 Jul 1998 22:35:51 -0400
>Gurth wrote:
>/
>/ Then you're the first person I know of who thinks a sourcebook
>/ about their area is a good one :) Most other Germans I've talked
>/ to about DidS don't like it, to varying degrees...
>
>The Denver Sourcebook is pretty good. I had to move a couple of things
>around and the writers had no idea we were going to spend 2 Billion $ on a
>new airport. But other than that I like it. <shrug>

Total agreement here. (Hey, you can even see my parent's place on the big
map.) I liked the Denver set in both form and substance. I would like to see
them re-release it in un-boxed form, at least the player book. My friend
Brandon and I (who are both from Pueblo, Colorado and then moved to Denver)
had some long talks about how we would do a Denver book. The Denver
Sourcebook included all of the things we'd been thinking about and more. I
was even prepared not to like it.

As far as the airport goes, they could have known about it if they had cared
to look. If I remember, they were clearing the land when the book came out,
which means they should have known about it during the writing of the book.

Wordman
Message no. 3
From: K is the Symbol <Ereskanti@***.COM>
Subject: Re: Place Books
Date: Thu, 9 Jul 1998 02:29:21 EDT
In a message dated 7/8/98 9:36:53 PM US Eastern Standard Time,
wordman@*******.COM writes:

> >The Denver Sourcebook is pretty good. I had to move a couple of things
> >around and the writers had no idea we were going to spend 2 Billion $ on a
> >new airport. But other than that I like it. <shrug>
>
> Total agreement here. (Hey, you can even see my parent's place on the big
> map.) I liked the Denver set in both form and substance. I would like to
see
> them re-release it in un-boxed form, at least the player book. My friend
> Brandon and I (who are both from Pueblo, Colorado and then moved to Denver)
> had some long talks about how we would do a Denver book. The Denver
> Sourcebook included all of the things we'd been thinking about and more. I
> was even prepared not to like it.
>
You know, this is kind of funny. Thanks to Nexx, Wigs managed to dredge up a
satellite image of Mike and I's house. Now he's using it to bring up images
of places in both Mike's PBEM and Mine... Yeppers, if there would be a proto-
decker out there...Aaron has GOT to be one of 'em...

-K (who loved it when Aaron brought up the satellite coordinates and
threatened to blow up the neighbors house with a Thor Strike as a signal to
get Mike back on the ball and do something about his PBEM..)
Message no. 4
From: Gurth <gurth@******.NL>
Subject: Re: Place Books
Date: Thu, 9 Jul 1998 11:38:36 +0100
David Buehrer said on 14:44/8 Jul 98,...

> / Then you're the first person I know of who thinks a sourcebook
> / about their area is a good one :) Most other Germans I've talked
> / to about DidS don't like it, to varying degrees...
>
> The Denver Sourcebook is pretty good. I had to move a couple of things
> around and the writers had no idea we were going to spend 2 Billion $ on a
> new airport. But other than that I like it. <shrug>

Stuff like new and highly-visible building projects (like airports)
are things you'll always run into when reading sourcebooks for
near-future games. Mostly it's the "moving things around" that
annoys people, and that the authors often apparently had no
knowledge of the area they were writing about. (<disclaimer>For
any sourcebook authors reading this, this is not aimed at you
specifically. It's an observation based on reading a _lot_ of posts
about SR location sourcebooks.</disclaimer>.)

What I myself usually am bothered about is the immense
destruction that SR sourcebooks feel the need to induldge in. For
example, the nuclear meltdowns that, for no particular reason at
all, it seems to me, happen all over the world in FASA's timeline.

> / Let's round this off with a quote: "A person shouldn't believe in
> / an ism. They should believe in themselves." :)
>
> Sid Ceaser

Ferris Buehler's Day Off is where I got this one. (That makes two
:)

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Message no. 5
From: MC23 <mc23@**********.COM>
Subject: Re: Place Books
Date: Thu, 9 Jul 1998 11:03:01 -0400
Once upon a time, Gurth wrote;

>What I myself usually am bothered about is the immense
>destruction that SR sourcebooks feel the need to induldge in. For
>example, the nuclear meltdowns that, for no particular reason at
>all, it seems to me, happen all over the world in FASA's timeline.

Damn M$ Nuclear Regulator 5.0. Released too early into the market.

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I swear to tell
the Truth, the partial Truth, or something like the Truth.

I am MC23
Message no. 6
From: Lehlan Decker <decker@****.FSU.EDU>
Subject: Re: Place Books
Date: Thu, 9 Jul 1998 11:11:44 -0500
>
> Once upon a time, Gurth wrote;
>
> >What I myself usually am bothered about is the immense
> >destruction that SR sourcebooks feel the need to induldge in. For
> >example, the nuclear meltdowns that, for no particular reason at
> >all, it seems to me, happen all over the world in FASA's timeline.
>
> Damn M$ Nuclear Regulator 5.0. Released too early into the market.
>
LOL!!!! It gives a whole new meaning to the "Blue Screen of Death". :)
Its not a bug, its a feature! This is probably dangerously OT, so I'll
stop now.

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Message no. 7
From: David Buehrer <dbuehrer@******.CARL.ORG>
Subject: Re: Place Books
Date: Thu, 9 Jul 1998 12:28:53 -0600
Gurth wrote:
/
/ David Buehrer said on 14:44/8 Jul 98,...
/
/ > / Let's round this off with a quote: "A person shouldn't believe in
/ > / an ism. They should believe in themselves." :)
/ >
/ > Sid Ceaser
/
/ Ferris Buehler's Day Off is where I got this one. (That makes two
/ :)

....i can't believe that i missed that..

<falls off the diving board and sinks to the bottom of the pool>

-David
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Message no. 8
From: David Buehrer <dbuehrer@******.CARL.ORG>
Subject: Re: Place Books
Date: Thu, 9 Jul 1998 12:33:54 -0600
Wordman wrote:
/
/ >Gurth wrote:
/ >/
/ >/ Then you're the first person I know of who thinks a sourcebook
/ >/ about their area is a good one :) Most other Germans I've talked
/ >/ to about DidS don't like it, to varying degrees...
/ >
/ >The Denver Sourcebook is pretty good. I had to move a couple of things
/ >around and the writers had no idea we were going to spend 2 Billion $ on a
/ >new airport. But other than that I like it. <shrug>
/
/ As far as the airport goes, they could have known about it if they had cared
/ to look. If I remember, they were clearing the land when the book came out,
/ which means they should have known about it during the writing of the book.

Well, yeah, but I could fix that pretty easily. The only thing that
really anoyed me was the fact that they left out the C-470 loop around
Denver, which has been in the planning stages for the last 10 years
(and they're working on the NW part now).

-David
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Message no. 9
From: Lehlan Decker <decker@****.FSU.EDU>
Subject: Re: Place Books
Date: Thu, 9 Jul 1998 14:36:59 -0500
>
> Gurth wrote:
> /
> / David Buehrer said on 14:44/8 Jul 98,...
> /
> / > / Let's round this off with a quote: "A person shouldn't believe in
> / > / an ism. They should believe in themselves." :)
> / >
> / > Sid Ceaser
> /
> / Ferris Buehler's Day Off is where I got this one. (That makes two
> / :)
>
> ....i can't believe that i missed that..
>
> <falls off the diving board and sinks to the bottom of the pool>
>
<I jump in to rescue him!> Struggling I drag him to the service....:)
You know I never noticed but your last name kinda looks like Feris's if
your not paying too much attention. :)
Boy am I OT today....


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