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Message no. 1
From: Spider Murphy <crickel@***.EDU>
Subject: Re: Plug and Pray
Date: Sun, 1 Mar 1998 15:52:47 -0600
Ereskanti wrote:

> Ah, but Dave, here's the fun part. I -am- using Windows '95 (B or Z, who
> knows) and things were NOT autorecognizing. I discovered the Com 1 and Com 3
> addresses were set to the same address for some reason in the Bios and the
> Modem wouldn't recognize because it was too busy trying to "dial the
mouse".

Wow.. someone else who actually had the same problems I had when upgrading my old
486-60 to a p100 running Win95... by swapping out the motherboard, adding memory,
and swapping hard drives.

I eventually gave up and ordered a p200 last Christmas direct from Gateway. It's
amusing.. even though this thing works "perfectly" (I don't have any problems
with
it), my Control Panel-Systems -insists- that my com port 3 isn't working. Well, my
sound card works, my modem works, my ethernet card works, and all the usual
peripheals (mouse, monitor) work ok, so I don't really care what the heck it's
problem with port 3 is. :)

> This is what I mean by problems. Software can simulate "PnP/PCI" interface
> abilities, but the Bios can be a problem regardless because it's "priority"
> over the software.

Bah. Don't worry, Bill Gates will fix that the instant he hears about something
taking priority over --his-- software. :)

> Think of this, take your decker...
>
> He gets a mainboard to put the MPCP and Persona Chips on, goes out and buys a
> Hardening Module from his Deckmeister, a ThruPut device is exchanged with
> another decker friend, and an ICCM via a second trip to the Deckmeister. When
> he goes to put them all together, the ThruPut works wondeful, so wonderful in
> fact, the ICCM doesn't recognize it. The Persona and MPCP chips would work
> perfectly on "the board we got from a Fuchi warehouse", but NOT from this
one
> you got from .... MIZATSU!!! WHO THE FRAG IS MIZATSU?!?!?!?....

Heh. Just installing the Ethernet card into my Brand-New PC and getting it to talk
to the university was impossible without calling up the techies from Computer
Services. :)

Spider Murphy
Message no. 2
From: Fade <runefo@***.UIO.NO>
Subject: Re: Plug and Pray
Date: Mon, 2 Mar 1998 15:34:53 +0000
> > By 2058, I can believe things will work fine in this department, assuming
> > everyone's agreed on a common standard. OTOH that seems a bit unlikely
> > when there are eight first-tier megacorps and several others all wanting
> > to have total monopoly on everything that makes them money...
Ereskanti added: (snipped)
> -IF- the Corporate
> Council made some form of wide-body ruling concerning such requirements, I
> could see it happening

Well, Renraku's 'providing' the Matrix. It makes sense that they
provide a 'common standard' for matrix connection. Can't imagine
that everything's standardized. There's probably (No, certainly)
effective protocol standards, though, which would make anything
capable of communicating with anything else. (If we assume computers
will be anywhere like they are today in 60 years, which is a
laughable assumption, incidentally.... I'd say assume what you want
and keep it abstract enough you won't look like an ass in about 60
years. :)



--
Fade

And the Prince of Lies said:
"To reign is worth ambition, though in Hell:
Better to reign in hell than to serve in heaven."
-John Milton, Paradise Lost
Message no. 3
From: Ereskanti <Ereskanti@***.COM>
Subject: Re: Plug and Pray
Date: Mon, 2 Mar 1998 18:47:10 EST
In a message dated 98-03-02 09:35:50 EST, runefo@***.UIO.NO writes:

> Well, Renraku's 'providing' the Matrix. It makes sense that they
> provide a 'common standard' for matrix connection. Can't imagine
> that everything's standardized. There's probably (No, certainly)
> effective protocol standards, though, which would make anything
> capable of communicating with anything else. (If we assume computers
> will be anywhere like they are today in 60 years, which is a
> laughable assumption, incidentally.... I'd say assume what you want
> and keep it abstract enough you won't look like an ass in about 60
> years. :)
>
Ugh, Renraku is provided the "Matrix" in and around the Seattle Metroplex.
Other companies are supporting it elsewhere. UCAS Data Systems has Manhattan
Corp. for instance (Neo Guide to NA). PCC has their own of course. Fuchi is
the hardware fanatic for corporate computers (as per Corp Shadowfiles
statistics).

There would have had to have been some form of massive concensus amongst the
big suppliers/producers of Matrix Tech. Maybe it's one of the things that was
sorted out after the Crash...
-K

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