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Message no. 1
From: Rand Ratinac docwagon101@*****.com
Subject: Police Protocols
Date: Mon, 3 Jul 2000 00:12:32 -0700 (PDT)
Guys, need some data here.

1. Does anyone know police radio protocols in America?
2. Does anyone know how police radio callsigns are
formatted in America?
3. Can someone tell me what the Lone Star riot squad
is actually called?

Thanks.

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Message no. 2
From: Alfredo B Alves dghost@****.com
Subject: Police Protocols
Date: Mon, 3 Jul 2000 03:57:34 -0500
On Mon, 3 Jul 2000 00:12:32 -0700 (PDT) Rand
Ratinac?<docwagon101@*****.com> writes:
> Guys, need some data here.
>
> 1. Does anyone know police radio protocols in America?
> 2. Does anyone know how police radio callsigns are
> formatted in America?

Check out:
http://www.copnet.org/
http://www.apbnews.com/
I'm not sure how useful the links would are ...

> 3. Can someone tell me what the Lone Star riot squad
> is actually called?

The Tactical Division has a Riot Control department.
The actual riot-control troops are called ... err ... it appears that
they are called riot-control troops. :)

Lone Star (Radio?) Codes (Format: Code xx, ie "Code 01"):
01 Emergency
02 Corp War
03 Terrorist Threat
04 Homicide
05 Riot
06 Magical Assault
07 Armed Robbery
08 Assault
09 Cannot Talk - Emergency Back-up Requested
10 Rape
11 Abduction
12 Robbery
13 Burglary
14 Auto Theft
15 Trafficking
16 Drunk or Dissorderly
17 Soliciting
18 Indecency
19 Domestic Dispute
20 Pursuit in Progress
99 Astral Back-up Requested
00 Officer Down - Medical Assistance Requested

Damn, I love the LS SB :)

Doc, need the stats for a Riot Control Constable?

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Message no. 3
From: DemonPenta@***.com DemonPenta@***.com
Subject: Police Protocols
Date: Mon, 3 Jul 2000 09:19:09 EDT
In a message dated 7/3/00 3:13:02 AM Eastern Daylight Time,
docwagon101@*****.com writes:

> 1. Does anyone know police radio protocols in America?

My best friend when I was little had a cop for a dad. Thus, I know a good
bit, me being the observant type. However, memory has probably degraded it a
bit.
Varies by department, BUT...in my experience, using "<recieving callsign>,
<sending callsign>. <Message>, Over." for beginnings, and ending
conversations w/ Out, was normal.

> 2. Does anyone know how police radio callsigns are
> formatted in America?

THIS varies by department. In addition, special units such as SWAT or Air
Support have unusual ones. Normally, however, US cops being vehicular as they
are, the normal callsign is the vehicle number. IE, in a message, "498,
respond to shooting in progress near McDonald's on Rt. 35." Also...trust
me..cops know EVERYBODY has a scanner able to pick up their freqs...expect
oddity. For potential suiciders, for example...My local PD uses no lights, no
sirens. Just FLOORS it...in an unmarked car. Nonetheless, I know the juvenile
cop quite well, and I recognize his car from a mile away.:-)

> 3. Can someone tell me what the Lone Star riot squad
> is actually called?

Riot Control Department. Around here, when I can GM, I format it's radio
callsign as "Barricade-<squad number, from 1 to 9>"

John
Message no. 4
From: Rand Ratinac docwagon101@*****.com
Subject: Police Protocols
Date: Mon, 3 Jul 2000 21:10:25 -0700 (PDT)
> > 1. Does anyone know police radio protocols in
America?
> > 2. Does anyone know how police radio callsigns are
formatted in America?
>
> Check out:
> http://www.copnet.org/
> http://www.apbnews.com/
> I'm not sure how useful the links would are ...

Thanks, Al, I'll check it out.

> > 3. Can someone tell me what the Lone Star riot
squad is actually called?
>
> The Tactical Division has a Riot Control department.
The actual riot-control troops are called ... err ...
it appears that they are called riot-control troops.
:)

Riot Control Dept. is the name I was after. Again,
thanks.

> Lone Star (Radio?) Codes (Format: Code xx, ie "Code
01"):
> 01 Emergency
> 02 Corp War
> 03 Terrorist Threat
> 04 Homicide
> 05 Riot
> 06 Magical Assault
> 07 Armed Robbery
> 08 Assault
> 09 Cannot Talk - Emergency Back-up Requested
> 10 Rape
> 11 Abduction
> 12 Robbery
> 13 Burglary
> 14 Auto Theft
> 15 Trafficking
> 16 Drunk or Dissorderly
> 17 Soliciting
> 18 Indecency
> 19 Domestic Dispute
> 20 Pursuit in Progress
> 99 Astral Back-up Requested
> 00 Officer Down - Medical Assistance Requested
>
> Damn, I love the LS SB :)

So do I...gotta get it back! :)

> Doc, need the stats for a Riot Control Constable?

Nah...for a story, not a game.

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Message no. 5
From: Rand Ratinac docwagon101@*****.com
Subject: Police Protocols
Date: Mon, 3 Jul 2000 21:27:05 -0700 (PDT)
> > 1. Does anyone know police radio protocols in
America?
>
> My best friend when I was little had a cop for a
dad. Thus, I know a good bit, me being the observant
type. However, memory has probably degraded it a bit.
Varies by department, BUT...in my experience, using
"<recieving callsign>, <sending callsign>. <Message>,
Over." for beginnings, and ending conversations w/
Out, was normal.

What would the receiving callsign be for the
despatcher? "Despatch"?

> > 2. Does anyone know how police radio callsigns
are formatted in America?
>
> THIS varies by department. In addition, special
units such as SWAT or Air Support have unusual ones.
Normally, however, US cops being vehicular as they
are, the normal callsign is the vehicle number. IE, in
a message, "498, respond to shooting in progress near
McDonald's on Rt. 35." Also...trust me..cops know
EVERYBODY has a scanner able to pick up their
freqs...expect oddity. For potential suiciders, for
example...My local PD uses no lights, no sirens. Just
FLOORS it...in an unmarked car. Nonetheless, I know
the juvenile cop quite well, and I recognize his car
from a mile away.:-)
> John

Well, in this particular instance, it's a couple of
detectives who (obviously enough) drive around in an
unmarked car in Seattle. Would the car still be
numbered? If not, what kind of callsign could you expect?

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Message no. 6
From: NeoJudas neojudas@******************.com
Subject: Police Protocols
Date: Mon, 3 Jul 2000 23:39:40 -0500
From: "Rand Ratinac" <docwagon101@*****.com>
Subject: Re: Police Protocols


> > > 1. Does anyone know police radio protocols in
> America?
> >
> > My best friend when I was little had a cop for a
> dad. Thus, I know a good bit, me being the observant
> type. However, memory has probably degraded it a bit.
> Varies by department, BUT...in my experience, using
> "<recieving callsign>, <sending callsign>. <Message>,
> Over." for beginnings, and ending conversations w/
> Out, was normal.
>
> What would the receiving callsign be for the
> despatcher? "Despatch"?

It's "DISPATCH" first of all (gives Doc' a dictionary), and no... it would
not. The dispatcher would give the station number/operating number, the
squad would give their precinct code followed by the car/unit number.
Single drivers also give just their badge codes/numbers.

> > > 2. Does anyone know how police radio callsigns
> are formatted in America?
> >
> > THIS varies by department. In addition, special
> units such as SWAT or Air Support have unusual ones.
> Normally, however, US cops being vehicular as they
> are, the normal callsign is the vehicle number. IE, in
> a message, "498, respond to shooting in progress near
> McDonald's on Rt. 35." Also...trust me..cops know
> EVERYBODY has a scanner able to pick up their
> freqs...expect oddity. For potential suiciders, for
> example...My local PD uses no lights, no sirens. Just
> FLOORS it...in an unmarked car. Nonetheless, I know
> the juvenile cop quite well, and I recognize his car
> from a mile away.:-)
> > John
>
> Well, in this particular instance, it's a couple of
> detectives who (obviously enough) drive around in an
> unmarked car in Seattle. Would the car still be
> numbered? If not, what kind of callsign could you expect?

The car is given a number/designation, yes. As for it's "callsign", that
would depend. Normally it is no different than a marked vehicle, other than
perhaps the statement of "unmarked" made on VERY rare occasion.


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Message no. 7
From: Alfredo B Alves dghost@****.com
Subject: Police Protocols
Date: Tue, 4 Jul 2000 00:46:02 -0500
On Mon, 3 Jul 2000 21:27:05 -0700 (PDT) Rand
Ratinac?<docwagon101@*****.com> writes:
<SNIP>
> Well, in this particular instance, it's a couple of
> detectives who (obviously enough) drive around in an
> unmarked car in Seattle. Would the car still be
> numbered? If not, what kind of callsign could you expect?

K gave most of the info you want, but here's some other info you might
be interested in: In Houston (TX), there are unmarked cop cars (I think
dedicated to traffic). AFAIK, the car's number is not printed anywhere
(at least not on the outside) but probably still has one. At glance, you
won't notice it's a cop car, but when you're close, it's obvious (but by
then it's too late; you've either been caught speeding or the cop wasn't
scanning.). There are two bumps on top of the trunk and there are
flashing lights built into the car (when off, they're nigh invisble from
afar).
This probably not the kind of car you want your detectives in, but the
car they would be in may have some things in common with it. As an
unmarked car, it will not have any police markings anywhere (AFAIK;
definately not any in plain sight). It probably has a siren, but only the
kind that you reach out and stick on the roof (I think it plugs into the
cigarette lighter.). The callsign will probably refer to the detectives,
not the car.
Well, alot of this is based on watching TV (namely Hunter) so it could
be wrong. :)

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Message no. 8
From: Rand Ratinac docwagon101@*****.com
Subject: Police Protocols
Date: Tue, 4 Jul 2000 00:13:06 -0700 (PDT)
> > What would the receiving callsign be for the
despatcher? "Despatch"?
>
> It's "DISPATCH" first of all (gives Doc' a
dictionary),

*sigh*

It comes from the idiots here at work misspelling the
word constantly. We have the "Despatch" department,
believe it or not. (They're trying to change it to
"Distribution", to avoid confusion, I'd say. :) )

> and no... it would not. The dispatcher would give
the station number/operating number, the squad would
give their precinct code followed by the car/unit
number. Single drivers also give just their badge
codes/numbers.

> The car is given a number/designation, yes. As for
it's "callsign", that would depend. Normally it is no
different than a marked vehicle, other than perhaps
the statement of "unmarked" made on VERY rare
occasion.
> NeoJudas ("K" to Friends)

Wow, great, wonderful...no, really. :)

HOWEVER...I really need Seattle examples. Wtf do
station numbers, operating numbers, precinct codes,
unit numbers etc. look like? Oh, and badge numbers?
Don't those tend to be a bit long and cumbersome?

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Message no. 9
From: NeoJudas neojudas@******************.com
Subject: Police Protocols
Date: Tue, 4 Jul 2000 04:03:11 -0500
From: "Rand Ratinac" <docwagon101@*****.com>
Subject: Re: Police Protocols


> Wow, great, wonderful...no, really. :)

Somehow the sarcasm just dripped that time... ;P

> HOWEVER...I really need Seattle examples. Wtf do
> station numbers, operating numbers, precinct codes,
> unit numbers etc. look like? Oh, and badge numbers?
> Don't those tend to be a bit long and cumbersome?

Actually, they might not be. What I'll give here now is an example, but not
necessarily an accurate one.

Seattle might be divided into 10 precincts. Take the Seattle map in the old
book (and whereever I put those files which were supposed to go back up
somewhere) divide it once length wise, then into 5 parts along the distance.
Number them 1 thru 10, with the first 5 being on the west cost along the
sound, the second 5 being eastside. More or less, this puts downtown in
precinct 3's jurisdiction. Now someone in dispatch would give a

"Seattle Station to Unit 5w3" would mean a car from the Seattle station to
contact Unit #5 of the west third precinct. They would reply as 5W3 to
Seattle Station, copy". Please note, the ENTIRE number and station
reaffirmation is important, especially for areas with massive authorities
like this (Los Angeles once upon a time had an immense amount of trouble
with their police and ambulance controllers interupting each other back in
the late 60's/early 70's before better protocols and the like were made for
example).

And as for badge numbers, *THAT* might get incredibly annoying in a really
fast turn, especially in lue of the potential number of officers and the
reference protocols that are used.

Now please note, as the ability to quickly select and utilize multiple radio
frequencies was developed, more fine tune could be dealt with into the
controlling mechanisms. If a BattleTAC receiver type unit was built into
the car (not far from possible actually), then encrypted and selected
frequencies would enable officers of each precinct to literally ignore each
other if necessary (which in major places Seattle:SR would be required at
times given the close proximity to one another). If a system like this were
adapted, then an additional step would be handled at the dispatcher's level
via a datajack.

Mental cues would be rigged, so that if the dispatcher thought of a specific
unit's id, it would simply downlog the frequency, encryption and vocal
protocals into the conversation. Literally giving the potential for
"symboless code" to be used.

So why doesn't anyone do this?

Simple really. Fraudulent Radio Communications. Someone could either tap
into the frequency (not impossible) or if someone were to "shot down the
cops", they could walk up to the car and have a conversation with dispatch
if no confirmations were given.

Please note that in the games we have here, things like "Smartcoms" are also
utilized. Either a palm print in a glove or under the skin (NOT a
cyberimplant mind you) or if the officer does have a smartlink, the
sequencer has a built recognition/restriction processor that verifies before
allowing the conversation to even occur. And if a person is dead, the
bioelectricity powering the smartlink would not allow for someone to "palm
the dead man" and have it work for someone else.

I'm straying pretty bad though, and I'm giving away a whole horde of GM
tricks for Lone Star that I probably shouldn't be...


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Message no. 10
From: DemonPenta@***.com DemonPenta@***.com
Subject: Police Protocols
Date: Tue, 4 Jul 2000 09:44:08 EDT
In a message dated 7/4/00 12:27:49 AM Eastern Daylight Time,
docwagon101@*****.com writes:

> My best friend when I was little had a cop for a
> dad. Thus, I know a good bit, me being the observant
> type. However, memory has probably degraded it a bit.
> Varies by department, BUT...in my experience, using
> "<recieving callsign>, <sending callsign>. <Message>,
> Over." for beginnings, and ending conversations w/
> Out, was normal.
>
> What would the receiving callsign be for the
> despatcher? "Despatch"?

Sending callsign/recieving callsign are same, just indications of who's
sending or recieving the message. But, yes. "Dispatch" (or, when listening
every so often, I pick up the Ft. Monmouth MPs, who use "Control") is the
general callsign.

> > > 2. Does anyone know how police radio callsigns
> are formatted in America?
> >
> > THIS varies by department. In addition, special
> units such as SWAT or Air Support have unusual ones.
> Normally, however, US cops being vehicular as they
> are, the normal callsign is the vehicle number. IE, in
> a message, "498, respond to shooting in progress near
> McDonald's on Rt. 35." Also...trust me..cops know
> EVERYBODY has a scanner able to pick up their
> freqs...expect oddity. For potential suiciders, for
> example...My local PD uses no lights, no sirens. Just
> FLOORS it...in an unmarked car. Nonetheless, I know
> the juvenile cop quite well, and I recognize his car
> from a mile away.:-)
> > John
>
> Well, in this particular instance, it's a couple of
> detectives who (obviously enough) drive around in an
> unmarked car in Seattle. Would the car still be
> numbered? If not, what kind of callsign could you expect?

The car....? Not likely. (Most unmarked cars are the result of drug
seizures, and departments are usually forgetting about em) Thus, it depends
upon the division. So, "November One" for Narcotics, "Hotel One" for
Homicide", etc. (One being a VERY random number assigned daily. I've heard it
going up to Twenty, but that was when you had something like 5 or 6
departments coordinating a drug raid. More usually...One to six cars per
division; If more? Hey, it can be done.)

John
Message no. 11
From: DemonPenta@***.com DemonPenta@***.com
Subject: Police Protocols
Date: Tue, 4 Jul 2000 10:03:41 EDT
In a message dated 7/4/00 3:13:29 AM Eastern Daylight Time,
docwagon101@*****.com writes:

> > > What would the receiving callsign be for the
> despatcher? "Despatch"?
> > It's "DISPATCH" first of all (gives Doc' a
> dictionary),
>
> *sigh*
>
> It comes from the idiots here at work misspelling the
> word constantly. We have the "Despatch" department,
> believe it or not. (They're trying to change it to
> "Distribution", to avoid confusion, I'd say. :) )
>
> > and no... it would not. The dispatcher would give
> the station number/operating number, the squad would
> give their precinct code followed by the car/unit
> number. Single drivers also give just their badge
> codes/numbers.

Depends where you go. If it's REDMOND? Hah. 1 station, use Dispatch, with
"Command" referring to the main Seattle precinct. Elsewhere? I generally use
"Command" to refer to the city headquarters, with "<precinct number>
Base"
for others. For the officers? With marked cars, around here you usually see
the number helpfully painted on the car somewhere (most commonly on the back,
right behind the passenger section). With unmarked? According to the local
juvenile detective, most departments have an internal numbering for each
division, oft with a bit of allusion to em. Such as, Homicide has "Gore One"
through "Gore Twelve" in a a local department, whereas Juvenile cops have
simple "Kid One", and Narcotics types use "Stoned One" (When I heard
this, I
HAD to laugh....does that mean they're stoned too?)

> > The car is given a number/designation, yes. As for
> it's "callsign", that would depend. Normally it is no
> different than a marked vehicle, other than perhaps
> the statement of "unmarked" made on VERY rare
> occasion.
> > NeoJudas ("K" to Friends)

Usually. See above though.

> HOWEVER...I really need Seattle examples. Wtf do
> station numbers, operating numbers, precinct codes,
> unit numbers etc. look like? Oh, and badge numbers?
> Don't those tend to be a bit long and cumbersome?

Seattle examples are gonna be unlikely. Mine are from the Jersey Shore,
with usually single-station departments...Multiple stations? Hah...Use the
precinct number followed by "dispatch", with "Command" designating The
Big
Guys.

John
Message no. 12
From: Rand Ratinac docwagon101@*****.com
Subject: Police Protocols
Date: Tue, 4 Jul 2000 18:17:15 -0700 (PDT)
> > > and no... it would not. The dispatcher would
give the station number/operating number, the squad
would give their precinct code followed by the
car/unit number. Single drivers also give just their
badge codes/numbers.
>
> Depends where you go. If it's REDMOND? Hah. 1
station, use Dispatch, with "Command" referring to the
main Seattle precinct. Elsewhere? I generally use
"Command" to refer to the city headquarters, with
"<precinct number> Base" for others. For the officers?
With marked cars, around here you usually see the
number helpfully painted on the car somewhere (most
commonly on the back, right behind the passenger
section). With unmarked? According to the local
juvenile detective, most departments have an internal
numbering for each division, oft with a bit of
allusion to em. Such as, Homicide has "Gore One"
through "Gore Twelve" in a a local department, whereas
Juvenile cops have simple "Kid One", and Narcotics
types use "Stoned One" (When I heard this, I HAD to
laugh....does that mean they're stoned too?)
>
> > > The car is given a number/designation, yes. As
for it's "callsign", that would depend. Normally it
is no different than a marked vehicle, other than
perhaps the statement of "unmarked" made on VERY rare
occasion.
> > > NeoJudas ("K" to Friends)
>
> Usually. See above though.
>
> > HOWEVER...I really need Seattle examples. Wtf do
station numbers, operating numbers, precinct codes,
unit numbers etc. look like? Oh, and badge numbers?
Don't those tend to be a bit long and cumbersome?
>
> Seattle examples are gonna be unlikely. Mine are
from the Jersey Shore, with usually single-station
departments...Multiple stations? Hah...Use the
precinct number followed by "dispatch", with "Command"
designating The Big Guys.
> John

So, going back to your (and K's) previous examples,
how does this sound? (Precinct 3, Homicide unit 8.)

"3 Dispatch, Hotel 8. <message>. Over."

Reversed for Dispatch's reply, of course. Is that
somewhat realistic (pretty much all I can hope for :) ).

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Message no. 13
From: DemonPenta@***.com DemonPenta@***.com
Subject: Police Protocols
Date: Tue, 4 Jul 2000 22:04:26 EDT
In a message dated 7/4/00 9:17:35 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
docwagon101@*****.com writes:

> So, going back to your (and K's) previous examples,
> how does this sound? (Precinct 3, Homicide unit 8.)
>
> "3 Dispatch, Hotel 8. <message>. Over."
>
> Reversed for Dispatch's reply, of course. Is that
> somewhat realistic (pretty much all I can hope for :) ).

Perfect. On a somewhat-related note: A friend of mine had a radio scanner
tuned to the Asbury Park police frequency....What does he hear today but,
"Dear GOD! Code One Golf! One Golf!" We compared that with stuff that popped
up on the radio: Greekfest (a gathering of normally-black Jersey Shore
fraternities that's KNOWN for problems) had another small riot today.
Wonderful living on the Shore during the summer; New York sends all the
wackos here.

John
Message no. 14
From: GuayII@***.com GuayII@***.com
Subject: Police Protocols
Date: Sat, 8 Jul 2000 07:26:48 EDT
In a message dated 00-07-04 21:17:35 EDT, you write:

> So, going back to your (and K's) previous examples,
> how does this sound? (Precinct 3, Homicide unit 8.)
>
> "3 Dispatch, Hotel 8. <message>. Over."
>
> Reversed for Dispatch's reply, of course. Is that
> somewhat realistic (pretty much all I can hope for :) ).
>

To expand on what K said:

Here in California, most of the departments assign call signs to the beat
areas like this: 4 Nora 2. So when officers are assigned their beats for the
shift, they take the number that is associated with the beat area. Also, most
officers end up work ing the same beats... The dispatcher is usually referred
to as "Home, "Control," or "Base." That's for the patrol
division though. I
don't know about Vice, Homicide, etc., but other people have covered that.

Doc::Btw, Badge numbers are usually simple. Ex: Badge #1, Badge #2, etc.

Useless Trivia:: The band Seven Mary Three (and where are they now?) took
their name from the callsign (Erik Estrada's I think) on CHiP's...

Cash
Message no. 15
From: Rand Ratinac docwagon101@*****.com
Subject: Police Protocols
Date: Sun, 9 Jul 2000 21:33:48 -0700 (PDT)
> Here in California, most of the departments assign
call signs to the beat areas like this: 4 Nora 2. So
when officers are assigned their beats for the shift,
they take the number that is associated with the beat
area.
<Snippola(TM)>
> Cash

You can't mean ALL the officers in the one beat have
the same call sign - do you mean they BASE it off the
beat's callsign?

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Message no. 16
From: Damon nomad74@*********.net
Subject: Police Protocols
Date: Mon, 10 Jul 2000 02:04:26 -0400
> You can't mean ALL the officers in the one beat have
> the same call sign - do you mean they BASE it off the
> beat's callsign?

Can't speak for Cali, of course, but "ALL" the officers in one beat area
are about one or two, depending how many is on staff (which, in most places,
means they are understaffed).
Assigning callsigns for different units is a tactic that is as varied as
the Police departments themselves. There's the cited (no pun intended)
example of the CHP, but here locally some PDs just have a 3 digit number
assigned to the zone. (Ex: 'Badge 521' isn't a badge number exactly, it's
the unit working the north zone in precinct 5.) But in the rural county
where I live, there are so few actual Sheriff's Deputies that their call
sign is just the number of the patrol car they are driving that day.
If you want to be a creative GM, and working in Seattle, I recommend
taking the map of the zones in seattle (love the maps in the orginal Sea-SB)
and consider each of those a Lone Star 'precinct' (number them however you
want, unless it's in the LS book or something, doesn't matter), then divid
that particular precincts into zones. Rule of thumb: The more rich the
denizens of that precinct, the more zones their are (hey, we want to be
realistic, don't we?), and of course this also determines whether or not a
patrol unit has one cop or two, and response times, etc.
Hopefully, the folks at FASA may be kind enough to condense the
previously published material in either the LS book or Sprawl Sites and
either reprint them (or better yet) put something up on their website for
3rd edition. To me, the random encounters in Sprawl Sites as well as the
corp-cops are the backbone of any GM who wants to watch his players squirm,
and it's sad that they weren't more popular...
Hope this helps a bit.

-Damon Harper
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Message no. 17
From: Rookie tmathena@*******.net
Subject: Police Protocols
Date: Mon, 10 Jul 2000 06:43:41 -0700
> > Here in California, most of the departments assign
> call signs to the beat areas like this: 4 Nora 2. So
> when officers are assigned their beats for the shift,
> they take the number that is associated with the beat
> area.
> <Snippola(TM)>
> > Cash


Ok this is the Maricopa Sheriffs department did it in Arizona same with
Chandler Arizona..I know I work with the Chandler PD as a Explorer and the
Maricopa Sheriffs department was a large amount of ride alongs.

Rand is correct. Example. 4 Nora 2.
Where 4 is the beat
Nora is the type of office/department. In this case Nora is Narcotics
2 is the shift this being second shift. There could any number of shifts.

Here is examples of other office/department types.

George = Gang Unit
Nora = Narcotics Unit
Sam = Sergeant
Paul = Patrol Unit
David = Detectives
King = K9
Lincoln = Lieutenant

If I remember any more I'll post them

-Rookie
Message no. 18
From: NeoJudas neojudas@******************.com
Subject: Police Protocols
Date: Mon, 10 Jul 2000 15:52:03 -0500
From: "Rookie" <tmathena@*******.net>
Subject: RE: Police Protocols


> Ok this is the Maricopa Sheriffs department did it in Arizona same with
> Chandler Arizona..I know I work with the Chandler PD as a Explorer and the
> Maricopa Sheriffs department was a large amount of ride alongs.

Oh gods, Rookie, you are going to mention *THAT* county's Sheriffs
department??? Posse' lord and masters themselves??? (*K runs off in hiding
at those memories*)

> Rand is correct. Example. 4 Nora 2.
> Where 4 is the beat
> Nora is the type of office/department. In this case Nora is Narcotics
> 2 is the shift this being second shift. There could any number of shifts.
>
> Here is examples of other office/department types.
>
> George = Gang Unit
> Nora = Narcotics Unit
> Sam = Sergeant
> Paul = Patrol Unit
> David = Detectives
> King = K9
> Lincoln = Lieutenant

Something that has struck me while reading this one and previous posts. I
believe there *IS* a standard for most units these days across the USA. I
didn't read anything of them recently, but I really remember something about
this.

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Message no. 19
From: DemonPenta@***.com DemonPenta@***.com
Subject: Police Protocols
Date: Mon, 10 Jul 2000 17:03:27 EDT
In a message dated 7/10/00 4:49:54 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
neojudas@******************.com writes:

> Something that has struck me while reading this one and previous posts. I
> believe there *IS* a standard for most units these days across the USA. I
> didn't read anything of them recently, but I really remember something
about
> this.

There is? My local radio scanner hardly tells such....I found *15*
different systems...across as many municipalities. The problem is that very,
and I mean VERY FEW police departments work together on things besides SWAT
(K-9 sometimes, but less often) teams (at least around here), because it
REALLY makes them look bad to the town council and such....Fortunately, most
(enforced) laws and ordinances are standard, which means most civilians don't
notice, but just sit around a police dispatch center during any multi-force
operation, or listen to their radio frequencies, and you'll be a firm
believer in standardization. For everything...it goes beyond callsigns, to a
HORRIBLE extent. BTW, I don't see this changing at all....EVER. On-Topic:
Assuming it doesn't...Imagine for a moment Metroplex Guard forces, Lone Star,
and KE having to cooperate on something. Anyone see the problems?
Message no. 20
From: Rand Ratinac docwagon101@*****.com
Subject: Police Protocols
Date: Mon, 10 Jul 2000 19:16:56 -0700 (PDT)
> Ok this is the Maricopa Sheriffs department did it
in Arizona same with Chandler Arizona..I know I work
with the Chandler PD as a Explorer and the Maricopa
Sheriffs department was a large amount of ride alongs.
>
> Rand is correct. Example. 4 Nora 2.

Hell, no, I'm not right. I'm totally wrong...well,
ignorant, anyway. ;) That's why I'm asking the
questions.

> Where 4 is the beat Nora is the type of
office/department. In this case Nora is Narcotics 2 is
the shift this being second shift. There could any
number of shifts.

It doesn't sound like you're using shift like we do
over here in Australia. Over here in job-related
matters, shifts are how work time is divided up -
shift workers can do day work/night work etc. With
that, there's only at most ever 3 shifts, which is why
I think you mean something else by "shift". Rookie?

> Here is examples of other office/department types.
>
> George = Gang Unit
> Nora = Narcotics Unit
> Sam = Sergeant
> Paul = Patrol Unit
> David = Detectives
> King = K9
> Lincoln = Lieutenant
>
> If I remember any more I'll post them

Please do. Now, is this just local to you, or is it a
general thing (using the dept. type for the callsign,
that is)? If it's in general use, what's Homicide?
Hotel, as someone suggested?

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Message no. 21
From: Rand Ratinac docwagon101@*****.com
Subject: Police Protocols
Date: Mon, 10 Jul 2000 19:52:44 -0700 (PDT)
> Something that has struck me while reading this one
and previous posts. I believe there *IS* a standard
for most units these days across the USA. I didn't
read anything of them recently, but I really remember
something about this.
> NeoJudas ("K" to Friends)

There is???

Please, does ANYONE know about this, or have any idea
where I could find info on it?

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Message no. 22
From: Alfredo B Alves dghost@****.com
Subject: Police Protocols
Date: Mon, 10 Jul 2000 22:28:40 -0500
On Mon, 10 Jul 2000 06:43:41 -0700 Rookie <tmathena@*******.net> writes:
<SNIP>
> Here is examples of other office/department types.
>
> George = Gang Unit
> Nora = Narcotics Unit
> Sam = Sergeant
> Paul = Patrol Unit
> David = Detectives
> King = K9
> Lincoln = Lieutenant
>
> If I remember any more I'll post them

Does Vice = Peter?
Does Mary = Motorcycle Unit?
If so, would a Patrol Unit, Motorcycle Unit, and Vice Unit working
together report in as Peter, Paul, and Mary? :)

*runs like hell*

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Message no. 23
From: Damon nomad74@*********.net
Subject: Police Protocols
Date: Tue, 11 Jul 2000 04:03:59 -0400
> Something that has struck me while reading this one and previous posts. I
> believe there *IS* a standard for most units these days across the USA. I
> didn't read anything of them recently, but I really remember something
about
> this.

Can't speak for the US, but I can tell you it's not the case in Georgia.
I work with PD very closely on my job and have a friend in the FBI. Next
time I talk to her I'll see if I can confirm or deny, or come up with more
popular communication methods.
You have to take into account the main reason for using handles and
codes: speed. The quicker the message is sent over the airwaves, the more
room their is for more messages.

-Damon Harper
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Message no. 24
From: Rookie tmathena@*******.net
Subject: Police Protocols
Date: Tue, 11 Jul 2000 06:47:22 -0700
> Can't speak for the US, but I can tell you it's not the
> case in Georgia.
> I work with PD very closely on my job and have a friend in
> the FBI. Next
> time I talk to her I'll see if I can confirm or deny, or come
> up with more
> popular communication methods.
> You have to take into account the main reason for using handles and
> codes: speed. The quicker the message is sent over the
> airwaves, the more
> room their is for more messages.
>

I'll see if I can get a list of 10 codes from Chandler and MCSO

-Rookie
Message no. 25
From: GuayII@***.com GuayII@***.com
Subject: Police Protocols
Date: Tue, 11 Jul 2000 09:53:47 EDT
In a message dated 00-07-11 09:51:11 EDT, you write:

> I'll see if I can get a list of 10 codes from Chandler and MCSO

Of course, some departments use 900 codes (I believe they're called) For
example, 925 might mean a car accident.

Cash
Message no. 26
From: Rookie tmathena@*******.net
Subject: Police Protocols
Date: Tue, 11 Jul 2000 06:54:21 -0700
> It doesn't sound like you're using shift like we do
> over here in Australia. Over here in job-related
> matters, shifts are how work time is divided up -
> shift workers can do day work/night work etc. With
> that, there's only at most ever 3 shifts, which is why
> I think you mean something else by "shift". Rookie?

Say you have 10 Shifts
8am-5pm = shift 1 i.e.. 2 Nova 1
9am-6pm = shift 2 i.e.. 2 Nova 2
10am-7pm = shift 3 i.e.. 2 Nova 3
etc.. or for larger PD's it could be devided up more like
8am-5pm = Shift 1 i.e.. 2 Nova 1 - 2 Nova 5
9am-6pm = Shift 2 i.e.. 2 Nova 5 - 2 Nova 7

-Rookie


> > Here is examples of other office/department types.
> >
> > George = Gang Unit
> > Nora = Narcotics Unit
> > Sam = Sergeant
> > Paul = Patrol Unit
> > David = Detectives
> > King = K9
> > Lincoln = Lieutenant
> >
> > If I remember any more I'll post them
>
> Please do. Now, is this just local to you, or is it a
> general thing (using the dept. type for the callsign,
> that is)? If it's in general use, what's Homicide?
> Hotel, as someone suggested?
>

Sorry yes I forgot Homicide..with Chandler it was Henry and MCSO it was
Hotel I believe.
Message no. 27
From: Rookie tmathena@*******.net
Subject: Police Protocols
Date: Tue, 11 Jul 2000 06:57:53 -0700
> -----Original Message-----
> From: shadowrn-admin@*********.com
> [mailto:shadowrn-admin@*********.com]On Behalf Of GuayII@***.com
> Sent: Tuesday, July 11, 2000 6:54 AM
> To: shadowrn@*********.com
> Subject: Re: Police Protocols
>
>
> In a message dated 00-07-11 09:51:11 EDT, you write:
>
> > I'll see if I can get a list of 10 codes from Chandler and MCSO
>
> Of course, some departments use 900 codes (I believe they're
> called) For
> example, 925 might mean a car accident.
>
Yes correct 10-20 would be what is your position. 10-12 means report back
with badge number. This one is usually used by dispatch if they believe the
officer may not be in control of a situation.

If I remember correct a 926 is a car accident. 927 Accident with injury. 928
fatal accident. If a is added to one of these codes it means an officer
invalved.

-Rookie
Message no. 28
From: GuayII@***.com GuayII@***.com
Subject: Police Protocols
Date: Tue, 11 Jul 2000 10:51:59 EDT
In a message dated 00-07-11 10:02:13 EDT, you write:

> Yes correct 10-20 would be what is your position. 10-12 means report back
> with badge number. This one is usually used by dispatch if they believe the
> officer may not be in control of a situation.
>
> If I remember correct a 926 is a car accident. 927 Accident with injury.
928
> fatal accident. If a is added to one of these codes it means an officer
> invalved.
>

Thanks...I'm not familiar with 900 codes, but I have a few sheets on 10 codes
lying around here somewhere.

Cash
Message no. 29
From: Damon nomad74@*********.net
Subject: Police Protocols
Date: Tue, 11 Jul 2000 11:45:02 -0400
> > Yes correct 10-20 would be what is your position. 10-12 means report
back
> > with badge number. This one is usually used by dispatch if they believe
the
> > officer may not be in control of a situation.
> >
> > If I remember correct a 926 is a car accident. 927 Accident with
injury.
> 928
> > fatal accident. If a is added to one of these codes it means an officer
> > invalved.
> >

Again, the 10 codes are different from department to department also.
Some codes are universal (such as 10-4 and
10-20), but (again) locally, I know the 10 codes of the Sheriff's Office,
and the Police of the next county where I work, and they are different. I
also have a buddy on Atlanta PD who says their 10 codes are also different.

-Damon Harper
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Message no. 30
From: Rand Ratinac docwagon101@*****.com
Subject: Police Protocols
Date: Tue, 11 Jul 2000 20:02:34 -0700 (PDT)
> Say you have 10 Shifts
> 8am-5pm = shift 1 i.e.. 2 Nova 1
> 9am-6pm = shift 2 i.e.. 2 Nova 2
> 10am-7pm = shift 3 i.e.. 2 Nova 3
> etc.. or for larger PD's it could be devided up more
> like
> 8am-5pm = Shift 1 i.e.. 2 Nova 1 - 2 Nova 5
> 9am-6pm = Shift 2 i.e.. 2 Nova 5 - 2 Nova 7

Ahhh...with overlapping shifts. Gotcha.

> > > Here is examples of other office/department
types.
> > >
> > > George = Gang Unit
> > > Nora = Narcotics Unit
> > > Sam = Sergeant
> > > Paul = Patrol Unit
> > > David = Detectives
> > > King = K9
> > > Lincoln = Lieutenant
> > >
> > > If I remember any more I'll post them
> >
> > Please do. Now, is this just local to you, or is
it a general thing (using the dept. type for the
callsign, that is)? If it's in general use, what's
Homicide? Hotel, as someone suggested?
>
> Sorry yes I forgot Homicide..with Chandler it was
Henry and MCSO it was Hotel I believe.

Chandler and MCSO being places, I'd assume? :)

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Message no. 31
From: Ashley Griffiths dagdamor@***********.co.uk
Subject: Police Protocols
Date: Thu, 13 Jul 2000 05:49:41 +0100
> > > Here in California, most of the departments assign
> > call signs to the beat areas like this: 4 Nora 2. So
> > when officers are assigned their beats for the shift,
> > they take the number that is associated with the beat
> > area.
> > <Snippola(TM)>
> > > Cash
>
>
> Ok this is the Maricopa Sheriffs department did it in Arizona same with
> Chandler Arizona..I know I work with the Chandler PD as a Explorer and the
> Maricopa Sheriffs department was a large amount of ride alongs.
>
> Rand is correct. Example. 4 Nora 2.
> Where 4 is the beat
> Nora is the type of office/department. In this case Nora is Narcotics
> 2 is the shift this being second shift. There could any number of shifts.
>
> Here is examples of other office/department types.
>
> George = Gang Unit
> Nora = Narcotics Unit
> Sam = Sergeant
> Paul = Patrol Unit
> David = Detectives
> King = K9
> Lincoln = Lieutenant
>
> If I remember any more I'll post them
>
> -Rookie


My god can't you americans do anything the simple way. Here in britain.
Every sation in the country has a two letter code to represent it. for
example my local area is FR (or Foxtrot Romeo when used over the radio).
This is then followed by the officers badge number. And if they are talking
about a crime they call it by its name. I'm a paramedic (well training
anyway) and so deal with these situations and it does work very simply.

An example.

Foxtrot Romeo to All Units.
Anyone in the Cross Street Area. There is a reported Armed Robbery in
Progress.

this would also have a counterpart message.

Foxtrot Romeo to ARU
Armed Robbery in progress. At <address of the place>

btw for those who dont know an ARU is an Armed Repsonse Unit. Because
unlike in America where AFAIK all cops carry guns, in Britain they don't.
Except in Mersyside, but anyone who has ever been to merseyside will know
why this is. And so each area has an armed response unit. but I can't
remeber the standard arms for these units. I think it may be a Benelli M3
Super but im not sure. I am currently trying to find so if anyone can tell
me please do.

Dagda Mor.

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Message no. 32
From: Damon nomad74@*********.net
Subject: Police Protocols
Date: Thu, 13 Jul 2000 01:35:12 -0400
> An example.
>
> Foxtrot Romeo to All Units.
> Anyone in the Cross Street Area. There is a reported Armed Robbery in
> Progress.

Let's define 'simple' here. Simple for YOU to understand, maybe. But as
I said before, most times Police are very busy, with any number of
situations (from funny to deadly). The job here is to get a message out and
over the radio as quickly as possible. Using your example, the local Police
here would say:

"All units [since it's a high-priority call, Armed robbery], 48 in
progress, signal 86, request 10-97 [address]"

Now, again, talking 'simple' dispatch not only advised units of an armed
robbery, they told the units that the subject was armed and requested a swat
team. All this compared to your 'simple' callout that took up at least
twice as much air time.

>
> this would also have a counterpart message.
>
> Foxtrot Romeo to ARU
> Armed Robbery in progress. At <address of the place>

Usually, one respondes here with "10-4". 'Nuff said.

>
> btw for those who dont know an ARU is an Armed Repsonse Unit. Because
> unlike in America where AFAIK all cops carry guns, in Britain they don't.

You were saying something about us Americans not doing things the 'simple'
way? <g>

Before I go off on a rant here, let me start off by saying cops not
having guns is very dangerous and so my hat goes off to anyone who forgoes
such a danger to live out their calling. They are either very brave or very
foolish- or perhaps in some cases both.
However, Bobbies also don't have any 'police brutality laws' to speak of
(at least according to the Bobby I got to talk to when I worked the '96
Olympics). Police carrying a gun are more skittish about using it than
you see on TV. Once a shot is fired (just one) the cop who fired it has got
some time off "pending an investigation". Period. By the Gods! If Ah-nold
got time off for every shot he fired, he'd be at home until retirement.
But don't think that means it's time to sit in the hammock and wait for the
paycheck, oh no. Then that cop has the fun of filling out anywhere from 5+
different forms by hand, and usually in duplicate or triplicate (which,
according to most cops I've talked to on the subject, is just enough time to
take up your time off). And then the investigators come rolling in.
Asking why the shot was fired. Who fired it. Why. What could you have
done different. etc, etc, etc...
Oh, btw, that's only if it's a misfire. God forbid it's in an acutal
shootout.
Sidenote: Saftey first, local police officer a couple of weeks ago blew
a hole in each arm while turning a rifle into evidence. Yes, he was a
rookie and didn't clear the gun. Always check, fellow runners. ;)

-Damon Harper
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Message no. 33
From: Ashley Griffiths dagdamor@***********.co.uk
Subject: Police Protocols
Date: Thu, 13 Jul 2000 07:01:38 +0100
> Before I go off on a rant here, let me start off by saying cops not
> having guns is very dangerous and so my hat goes off to anyone who forgoes
> such a danger to live out their calling. They are either very brave or
very
> foolish- or perhaps in some cases both.
> However, Bobbies also don't have any 'police brutality laws' to speak
of
> (at least according to the Bobby I got to talk to when I worked the '96
> Olympics). Police carrying a gun are more skittish about using it than
> you see on TV. Once a shot is fired (just one) the cop who fired it has
got
> some time off "pending an investigation". Period. By the Gods! If
Ah-nold
> got time off for every shot he fired, he'd be at home until retirement.
> But don't think that means it's time to sit in the hammock and wait for
the
> paycheck, oh no. Then that cop has the fun of filling out anywhere from
5+
> different forms by hand, and usually in duplicate or triplicate (which,
> according to most cops I've talked to on the subject, is just enough time
to
> take up your time off). And then the investigators come rolling in.
> Asking why the shot was fired. Who fired it. Why. What could you have
> done different. etc, etc, etc...
> Oh, btw, that's only if it's a misfire. God forbid it's in an acutal
> shootout.
> Sidenote: Saftey first, local police officer a couple of weeks ago
blew
> a hole in each arm while turning a rifle into evidence. Yes, he was a
> rookie and didn't clear the gun. Always check, fellow runners. ;)
>
> -Damon Harper

Woah there. Firstly i didn't say american cops go around shooting
everything that moved. Secondly the reason that British Police don't use
guns is because. The possesion of any weapon (other than a hunting rifle
which has its own license) is completely illegal without a military license
or an ARU license. Because of this fact. Police rarely have to worry about
getting into an extended firefight and so a kevlar vest is usually ok. But
these are normally only warn when you know you are going into a situation
involving firearms.

Dagda Mor

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Message no. 34
From: GuayII@***.com GuayII@***.com
Subject: Police Protocols
Date: Thu, 13 Jul 2000 07:18:09 EDT
In a message dated 00-07-13 01:36:18 EDT, you write:

> But don't think that means it's time to sit in the hammock and wait for the
> paycheck, oh no. Then that cop has the fun of filling out anywhere from 5+
> different forms by hand, and usually in duplicate or triplicate (which,
> according to most cops I've talked to on the subject, is just enough time
to
> take up your time off).

Well, heck...about 60 % of a cop's time is doing paperwork....

Cash
Message no. 35
From: David Hinkley dhinkley@***.org
Subject: Police Protocols
Date: Sun, 16 Jul 2000 09:45:21 -0700
Date sent: Tue, 11 Jul 2000 20:02:34 -0700 (PDT)
From: Rand Ratinac <docwagon101@*****.com>
Subject: RE: Police Protocols

[SNIP]

> >
> > Sorry yes I forgot Homicide..with Chandler it was
> Henry and MCSO it was Hotel I believe.

Ah yes another area of American non-standardization. There are two
different phonetic alphabets in comman useage. One is the International
(Alpha, Bravo, Charley, Delta......) and the other is Adam, Bill, Charles,
David, Edward..... and each has local variations.




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