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Message no. 1
From: John E Pederson <lobo1@****.COM>
Subject: Re: poor people in space
Date: Tue, 3 Mar 1998 15:50:11 -0500
On Tue, 3 Mar 1998 11:43:00 CST CALMON PEDRO MARANHAO
<calmpm1@*************.NICH.EDU> writes:

> Maybe, but still he raised some important points. As far as I can
>remeber, Zurich orbital is supposed to be a space station that serve
>as residence to some of the wealthiest people of the world. Well,
>except for the micro-gravity, there is trully no advantage in living
>on a small and crumped space can. Many sci-fi writters have imagined
>that orbital homes would turn out to be the place to be on the 21st
>century, so I guess our cuban refugee rose some interesting
>questions. Also, maybe it would be interesting to put something like
>poor refugees for third world nations being send to live in space
>colonies into the ShadowRun wolrd. Who knows, some good adventures
>might come out of it.


Doubtful. Your writer was talking about (or seemed to me like he was
talking about) the colonisation of other planets, not the colonisation of
space via space stations. In which light, I can see his ideas as being at
least partly applicable. Nice way of eliminating poverty, if you're a bit
... unenlightened in your ideals:) Ship all of your undesirables off to
other planets to take care of themselves and increase the job security
and national pride back home. Not entirely different from how some
countries got started.

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Message no. 2
From: Erik Jameson <erikj@****.COM>
Subject: Re: poor people in space
Date: Tue, 3 Mar 1998 17:21:13 -0500
At 03:50 PM 3/3/98 -0500, you wrote:
>On Tue, 3 Mar 1998 11:43:00 CST CALMON PEDRO MARANHAO
><calmpm1@*************.NICH.EDU> writes:
>
>> Maybe, but still he raised some important points. As far as I can
>>remeber, Zurich orbital is supposed to be a space station that serve
>>as residence to some of the wealthiest people of the world. Well,
>>except for the micro-gravity, there is trully no advantage in living
>>on a small and crumped space can. Many sci-fi writters have imagined
>>that orbital homes would turn out to be the place to be on the 21st
>>century, so I guess our cuban refugee rose some interesting
>>questions. Also, maybe it would be interesting to put something like
>>poor refugees for third world nations being send to live in space
>>colonies into the ShadowRun wolrd. Who knows, some good adventures
>>might come out of it.
>
>
>Doubtful. Your writer was talking about (or seemed to me like he was
>talking about) the colonisation of other planets, not the colonisation of
>space via space stations. In which light, I can see his ideas as being at
>least partly applicable. Nice way of eliminating poverty, if you're a bit
>... unenlightened in your ideals:) Ship all of your undesirables off to
>other planets to take care of themselves and increase the job security
>and national pride back home. Not entirely different from how some
>countries got started.
>
>
Of course, the biggest problem with shipping your undesirables off into
space somewhere is the massive cost; it'd be cheaper to feed, clothe,
shelter and educate them than to exile them to Mars or something.

Or at least that will be the case until space travel becomes as inexpensive
as current air travel is.

Erik J.

This is my opinion. While correct, your mileage may vary.
Message no. 3
From: Ereskanti <Ereskanti@***.COM>
Subject: Re: poor people in space
Date: Tue, 3 Mar 1998 17:41:20 EST
In a message dated 98-03-03 16:30:49 EST, lobo1@****.COM writes:

> Doubtful. Your writer was talking about (or seemed to me like he was
> talking about) the colonisation of other planets, not the colonisation of
> space via space stations. In which light, I can see his ideas as being at
> least partly applicable. Nice way of eliminating poverty, if you're a bit
> ... unenlightened in your ideals:) Ship all of your undesirables off to
> other planets to take care of themselves and increase the job security
> and national pride back home. Not entirely different from how some
> countries got started.
>
There is a collection of books from Christopher Stacheff (sp?) "The Warlock"
series that is kind of the "long range effects" of what was mentioned.
Interesting twist in the long run.

-K
Message no. 4
From: Spike <u5a77@*****.CS.KEELE.AC.UK>
Subject: Re: poor people in space
Date: Wed, 4 Mar 1998 12:23:51 +0000
And verily, did John E Pederson hastily scribble thusly...
|Doubtful. Your writer was talking about (or seemed to me like he was
|talking about) the colonisation of other planets, not the colonisation of
|space via space stations. In which light, I can see his ideas as being at
|least partly applicable. Nice way of eliminating poverty, if you're a bit
|... unenlightened in your ideals:) Ship all of your undesirables off to
|other planets to take care of themselves and increase the job security
|and national pride back home. Not entirely different from how some
|countries got started.

Ahhh, but then there would be repercussions later on.
They might all die off from a disease contracted from a dirty telephone.
(That's what happened to our ancestors, the Golgafrinchams.... According to
D.Addams)
:)
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