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Message no. 1
From: Erik Jameson <erikj@****.COM>
Subject: Predator vs. Prey
Date: Thu, 26 Feb 1998 17:43:04 -0500
As I was driving back to the office after getting lost running a company
errand, thereby essentially losing all *my* lunchtime, I came to a sudden
realization about Predator vs. Prey. Or more specifically, the third
adventure.

I suppose I oughta put in some spoiler space before giving the specifics
about the adventure...


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Okay, enough space. In the third adventure, there are some strange events
occurring in Seattle; namely paranimals are attacking people with
disturbing frequency, paranimals that shouldn't be in Seattle somehow are,
and animals in general are acting very strange and with an intelligence
above normal.

Turns out there is a malicious spirit of an unknown type that is
controlling the critters. Evil, nasty spirit that is supposed to be very
powerful and may not be like any known spirit; it has a unique ability to
"remote control" animals as if it were a rigger remote controlling drones.

Now, it turns out over on TK a few years back, late 95, early 96, a fellow
by the name of James Cueno (some may remember the name Freddy Frypp) and I
ran a story that has some strange similarities. Enough to make me wonder,
but not enough that I would have any real justification for copyright
infringement or something.

Our "Kaer of Dogs" story (check the TK archives) was something like this; a
cave is discovered in NorCal. Investigators die. Strange animals, that
should be in NorCal let alone North America, start to pop up and start
causing problems (like behemoths and piasmas and whatever else). CalFree
military seals area off because they don't know what else to do. My
character, the Dark Stranger, sneaks in with a small local crew (who all
die horribly of course). Turns out the cave was something like an
Earthdawn kaer. Which had trapped, of course, an evil nasty spirit that
was very powerful and probably wasn't any known spirit type. The PC
destroys physical form, closes cave, then passes out from wounds, only to
wake up in a healing vat in good ol' Tir Tanglewood. Eventually released,
he hasn't appeared in Seattle or on TK since.

Two adventures, with two strange spirits that have strange control over
animals. The second one is only lacking the physical form. Yes, there are
clear and obvious differences. But enough similarities that I think if I
run PvP, I'll make them the same spirit, which in theory they could be.
Would make things a wee bit more interesting...

Ah well. I suppose this was really only a random thought, but I still
think it's a little odd.

Erik J.

Lord of the Kaer of Dogs
Message no. 2
From: The Bookworm <Thomas.M.Price@*******.EDU>
Subject: Re: Predator vs. Prey
Date: Thu, 26 Feb 1998 19:34:00 -0600
My reply adds some spoilers for Beond the Pale. You have been warned:)

On Thu, 26 Feb 1998, Erik Jameson wrote:
> As I was driving back to the office after getting lost running a company
> errand, thereby essentially losing all *my* lunchtime, I came to a sudden
> realization about Predator vs. Prey. Or more specifically, the third
> adventure.
>
> I suppose I oughta put in some spoiler space before giving the specifics
> about the adventure...
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> Okay, enough space. In the third adventure, there are some strange events
> occurring in Seattle; namely paranimals are attacking people with
> disturbing frequency, paranimals that shouldn't be in Seattle somehow are,
> and animals in general are acting very strange and with an intelligence
> above normal.
>
> Turns out there is a malicious spirit of an unknown type that is
> controlling the critters. Evil, nasty spirit that is supposed to be very
> powerful and may not be like any known spirit; it has a unique ability to
> "remote control" animals as if it were a rigger remote controlling drones.
<snip story about an old run having to do with a similar spirit that was
trapped in an Earthdawn style Kaer>

Hmmmmmm while i havent read the critters book this has given me an idea.
Ok Remeber how at the end of Beyond the Pale they destroyed the bridge as
the Enemy crossed? Rember how they were sure if they killed all the ones
that did cross? I think we have just found out first leaker. Sounds like
eather a low level horror or a horror construct. Areas was parinoid
enough with the bugs. I wonder what they will do when they find out about
the horors.....

Thomas Price
aka The Bookworm
thomas.m.price@*******.edu
tmprice@***********.com
Message no. 3
From: Dust <rogan@******.ORG>
Subject: Re: Predator vs. Prey
Date: Thu, 26 Feb 1998 21:11:40 -0800
Wow!

If anyone recalls I've posted a few times about how much I thought another
book with Critter stats was needed. Seems that Predator vs. Prey might
fit the picture. The posts I've seen on it so far make it look pretty
fun. So here's the big question: Does it have "a lot" of critter stats?

I'd appreciate the info because I'd start saving up to get it.

Thanks,

Dust
Message no. 4
From: KrackerKorn <jmf4402@***.NYU.EDU>
Subject: Re: Predator vs. Prey
Date: Thu, 26 Feb 1998 21:13:42 -0500
On Thu, 26 Feb 1998, Dust wrote:

> Wow!
>
> If anyone recalls I've posted a few times about how much I thought another
> book with Critter stats was needed. Seems that Predator vs. Prey might
> fit the picture. The posts I've seen on it so far make it look pretty
> fun. So here's the big question: Does it have "a lot" of critter stats?
>

It has pages of stats. Including critters from PANA, PAE, Cyberpirates,
and other books. Hope this helps.
Message no. 5
From: Brett Borger <bxb121@***.EDU>
Subject: Re: Predator vs. Prey
Date: Fri, 27 Feb 1998 12:41:22 +0000
> If anyone recalls I've posted a few times about how much I thought another
> book with Critter stats was needed. Seems that Predator vs. Prey might
> fit the picture. The posts I've seen on it so far make it look pretty
> fun. So here's the big question: Does it have "a lot" of critter stats?

no, it's horribly useless. When I first wrote my TSS review of it, I
said it's only saving grace was that it had a collection of all FASA
published animals in it. Teeg on #shadowrun pointed out that this
was false....indeed, it lacks some of our favorites. (Dzoo-no-qua,
Bandersnatch, etc). Thus P&P is left without any saving grace.

-=SwiftOne=-

Brett Borger
SwiftOne@***.edu
AAP Techie

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