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Message no. 1
From: Bahamut Mighty Dragon Lord bahamut@**.com
Subject: Program's
Date: Sun, 11 Jul 1999 13:46:31 -0400
Is any one working on a character generator for SR3? I have heared of older
ones for SR2 and before? If their is not one in the works if any one knows
who created the last one that infomration would be greatly apreciated.
Message no. 2
From: Da Twink Daddy datwinkdaddy@*********.com
Subject: Program's
Date: Sun, 11 Jul 1999 17:03:14 -0500
----- Original Message -----
From: Bahamut Mighty Dragon Lord <bahamut@**.com>


> Is any one working on a character generator for SR3? I have heared
of older
> ones for SR2 and before? If their is not one in the works if any one
knows
> who created the last one that infomration would be greatly
apreciated.

I'm just kinda starting on one. I've decided that instead of making a
windows-only GUI (b/c that's the only machine I have), I'm doing it
all in Java. I've got an excellent program (IBM VisualAge) and if I
ever put a significant amount of time into this, I think I can,
indeed, get one working. I have the idea of the GUI in my head and I
think I'm sure how everything will fit together, but nothing that
works yet.

I've also decided that before I put any more time into the CharGen,
I'm going to do a CyberDeck pricer/builder. I should have that out in
a week or so, (I'm buzy this week.)

Da Twink Daddy
bss03@**tropy.uark.edu
ICQ# 514984
Message no. 3
From: Darrell L. Bowman darrell@******.dhr.state.nc.us
Subject: Program's
Date: Sun, 11 Jul 1999 22:48:32 -0400
On 11 Jul 99, at 13:46, Bahamut Mighty Dragon Lord wrote:

> Is any one working on a character generator for SR3? I have heared of
> older ones for SR2 and before? If their is not one in the works if any one
> knows who created the last one that infomration would be greatly
> apreciated.
>

I don't have a characer generator as such,.. but I do have an
Excel 97 spread that I put together to help me out. It does
some of the calulations and such..



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Thought for the day:
Bagpipes (n): an octopus wearing a kilt.


Nightshade, Human Racoon Shaman
or
Raven, Elven Irish Rigger with an attitude.

Darrell Bowman
darrell@******.dhr.state.nc.us
Message no. 4
From: Aaron Binns sparrow@***.net.au
Subject: Program's
Date: Mon, 12 Jul 1999 16:08:58 +1000
> I don't have a characer generator as such,.. but I do have an
> Excel 97 spread that I put together to help me out. It does
> some of the calulations and such..

Think I could get a copy off you?

> Nightshade, Human Racoon Shaman
> or
> Raven, Elven Irish Rigger with an attitude.

so.. which one was it?

GreyWolf
or
GreyWolf
or
GreyWolf
Message no. 5
From: Rori Steel cullyn@*****.com.au
Subject: Program's
Date: Mon, 12 Jul 1999 11:48:32 +0000 (GMT)
On Sun, 11 Jul 1999 13:46:31 -0400, you wrote:

>Is any one working on a character generator for SR3? I have heared of older
>ones for SR2 and before? If their is not one in the works if any one knows
>who created the last one that infomration would be greatly apreciated.

Someone asked this not too long ago...

Pocket Secretary (PS) was the origional Character Generator for SR2...
and was funky do daa :> But hasnt been updated as yet. The if's and
why's and how's are being debated so sit tight or write your own ;>
heheh

AdamJ (Assistant FL) was the origonal writter of PS. I know his site
has some info on when and why he stopped making an SR3 release of it,
so check there... It will probably be the first place to have info on
the new one if and when it comes out. Or here ;>

There was a SRCG program on the net also, i think i got to it from the
Shadowrun WEbring but im not sure... and it was still SR2, and may
have been shareware, although how that happens with a product lisenced
to someone else i dont know.

Have a good day!

Cullyn
cullyn@*****.com.au
Message no. 6
From: 00DNA mcmanus@******.albany.edu
Subject: Program's
Date: Mon, 12 Jul 1999 08:25:33 -0400
At 01:46 PM 7/11/99 -0400, Bahamut Mighty Dragon Lord wrote:
>Is any one working on a character generator for SR3? I have heared of older
>ones for SR2 and before? If their is not one in the works if any one knows
>who created the last one that infomration would be greatly apreciated.
>

Well it looks like I'm going to break down and make one. I didn't before
because there was stuff out there, but know I got a player who was making
SR3 characters fine until he found some SR2 character generator and now
he's messing everything up and trying to use net books which I don't
allow...*sigh*...but I got plenty of other stuff on my plate so dont expect
it soon.


--00DNA
"...user connection terminated."
Message no. 7
From: Damian Robinson max.robinson@**.net.au
Subject: Program's
Date: Mon, 12 Jul 1999 22:53:28 +1000
http://members.xoom.com/SRCG/

has a shareware Char gen program available.
it works for SR3 as well as SR2. It also has a function that allows
what net books (or canon books for that matter) are allowed to be
used.
The download is a beta, but he has an update feature that should bring
it up from 1.4B to ver 1.4.6.


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Message no. 8
From: EdgeWalker EdgeWalker@*****.net
Subject: Program's
Date: Mon, 12 Jul 1999 22:31:46 +0100
http://members.xoom.com/SRCG/

The download link of this page does not work. Does any one know where I can
find a copy of this program some where else?

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]-----Original Message-----
]From: shadowrn-admin@*********.org
][mailto:shadowrn-admin@*********.org]On Behalf Of Damian Robinson
]Sent: 12 July 1999 13:53
]To: shadowrn@*********.org
]Subject: Re: Program's
]
]
]http://members.xoom.com/SRCG/
]
]has a shareware Char gen program available.
]it works for SR3 as well as SR2. It also has a function that allows
]what net books (or canon books for that matter) are allowed to be
]used.
]The download is a beta, but he has an update feature that should bring
]it up from 1.4B to ver 1.4.6.
]
]
]--
]Cheers
]Damian
]
]Home Page:
]http://www.geocities.com/Area51/Dreamworld/4808/
]pay a visit, and please don't forget the Guestbook...
]
]ICQ?
]#14030875
]
]
]
]
Message no. 9
From: Bahamut Mighty Dragon Lord bahamut@**.com
Subject: Program's
Date: Mon, 12 Jul 1999 18:20:56 -0400
On Monday, July 12, 1999 2:09 AM, Aaron Binns [SMTP:sparrow@***.net.au] wrote:
> > I don't have a characer generator as such,.. but I do have an
> > Excel 97 spread that I put together to help me out. It does
> > some of the calulations and such..
>
> Think I could get a copy off you?
>
Same here if its not to much trouble?

> > Nightshade, Human Racoon Shaman
> > or
> > Raven, Elven Irish Rigger with an attitude.
>
> so.. which one was it?
>
> GreyWolf
> or
> GreyWolf
> or
> GreyWolf
>
>
Message no. 10
From: Damian Robinson max.robinson@**.net.au
Subject: Program's
Date: Tue, 13 Jul 1999 12:57:15 +1000
try the two mirrors that he has up.
a Geocities site, and one other.
failing that, drop him a line and tell him the problem.
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Message no. 11
From: Adam J adamj@*********.html.com
Subject: Program's
Date: Mon, 12 Jul 1999 21:05:58 -0600
At 12:57 7/13/99 +1000, Damian Robinson wrote:
>try the two mirrors that he has up.
>a Geocities site, and one other.
>failing that, drop him a line and tell him the problem.

(First off, please quote what you're replying to. In this case I knew right
away, but in the other busier threads, it can be alot more difficult to
figure out what you're talking about)

I believe that Mike Hartmann is working on a new version of his chargen,
and has been for awhile.. must have run into major time constraints, as he
does have a new job that is a fair ways away from his home, I believe.

I've been toying around with the idea of working on a chargen again. Been
tossing the idea back and forth with a couple people on IRC, and hopefully
developing in tandem a version for *nix (his side) and windows (my side),
which can share data files, read each others characters, etc.

Is there enough demand to make this worth my time? Would people tie me to a
stake if I asked for a nominal shareware donation, if they liked the
program? (NO plans to turn into into nagware, crippleware, etc, but I
wouldn't mind a few bucks or an OOP book, something like that, just to
justify my time..)

Replies should probably go private, unless it's something that could use
further discussion on the list.

Adam
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Message no. 12
From: Darrell L. Bowman darrell@******.dhr.state.nc.us
Subject: Program's
Date: Mon, 12 Jul 1999 23:56:18 -0400
On 12 Jul 99, at 18:20, Bahamut Mighty Dragon Lord wrote:

>
>
> On Monday, July 12, 1999 2:09 AM, Aaron Binns [SMTP:sparrow@***.net.au]
> wrote: > > I don't have a characer generator as such,.. but I do have an >
> > Excel 97 spread that I put together to help me out. It does > > some of
> the calulations and such.. > > Think I could get a copy off you? > Same
> here if its not to much trouble?

I don't mind passing around that spread sheet, but you guys
are gonna' have to ask me in private mail... the above is an
example of why I can't tell who ask what.

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Lead, follow, or get out of my flight-path.
--draconic saying, from Elvenblood,
by Andre Norton and Mercedes Lackey.


Nightshade, Human Racoon Shaman
or
Raven, Elven Irish Rigger with an attitude.

Darrell Bowman
darrell@******.dhr.state.nc.us
Message no. 13
From: Mark A Shieh SHODAN+@***.EDU
Subject: Program's
Date: Tue, 13 Jul 1999 13:20:42 -0400 (EDT)
Adam J <adamj@*********.html.com> writes:
> I've been toying around with the idea of working on a chargen again. Been
> tossing the idea back and forth with a couple people on IRC, and hopefully
> developing in tandem a version for *nix (his side) and windows (my side),
> which can share data files, read each others characters, etc.

Would there be an interest in making character formats
standardized? I keep trying to write one but something keeps sucking
away my motivation every time I get stuck on something. It would be
nice to have a data file and character file format that everyone could
use.

Mark
Message no. 14
From: Adam J adamj@*********.html.com
Subject: Program's
Date: Tue, 13 Jul 1999 13:32:16 -0600
At 13:20 7/13/99 -0400, Mark A Shieh wrote:

>> I've been toying around with the idea of working on a chargen again. Been
>> tossing the idea back and forth with a couple people on IRC, and hopefully
>> developing in tandem a version for *nix (his side) and windows (my side),
>> which can share data files, read each others characters, etc.
>
> Would there be an interest in making character formats
>standardized? I keep trying to write one but something keeps sucking
>away my motivation every time I get stuck on something. It would be
>nice to have a data file and character file format that everyone could
>use.

That's what we're working on now. Get the file formats finalized (XML
DTDs), throw them up on the web, and then anyone can use them, which would
hopefully make it possible for say, The Shop to export according to the
DTD, and then a character generator could import that vehicle so you can
add it to a character, for example.

Adam
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Message no. 15
From: Mark A Shieh SHODAN+@***.EDU
Subject: Program's
Date: Tue, 13 Jul 1999 16:06:53 -0400 (EDT)
Adam J <adamj@*********.html.com> writes:
> At 13:20 7/13/99 -0400, Mark A Shieh wrote:
> That's what we're working on now. Get the file formats finalized (XML
> DTDs), throw them up on the web, and then anyone can use them, which would
> hopefully make it possible for say, The Shop to export according to the
> DTD, and then a character generator could import that vehicle so you can
> add it to a character, for example.

Where can I read up on XML and the unfinalized formats?

Mark
Message no. 16
From: Adam J adamj@*********.html.com
Subject: Program's
Date: Tue, 13 Jul 1999 15:09:20 -0600
At 16:06 7/13/99 -0400, Mark A Shieh wrote:

> Where can I read up on XML and the unfinalized formats?

http://www.xmlinfo.com is a pretty decent and well organized resource. We
don't have the unfinished formats online yet, since they really -are-
unfinished, and we're not sure where they're going to end up online.

Adam
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