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Message no. 1
From: "Robert A. Hayden" <hayden@*******.mankato.msus.edu>
Subject: Put Blue Ribbons on Your Web Pages
Date: Mon, 5 Feb 1996 00:23:51 -0600 (CST)
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As many of you may be aware, the Communications Decency Act, also known as
the "Internet Censorship Bill" will be signed into law next week. This
will make it illegal and subject to heavy fines and jail terms to say
anything "indecent" on the internet, dispite the fact that there is no
legal definition of what "indecency" actually is.

Basicly, they have reduced the intellectual level of the Internet to that
of a 12 year old, eliminating legitimate academic discussion as well as
the basic idea of free speech.

The Electronic Frontier Foundation (http://www.eff.org) is organizing The
Blue Ribbon Campaign for Online Freedom of Speech, Press and
Association. As part of this campain, the EFF is encouraging everyone to
put graphics of blue ribbons on to their home pages.

To this end, I encourage everyone to take a moment to connect to the
EFF's Blue Ribbon home page (http://www.eff.org/blueribbon.html) and
download a graphic of your favorite ribbion (or steal one from my
pages). Then, slap it into your own pages, perhaps making it a link to
http://www.eff.org/blueribbon.html as well so others can follow it.

It's a simple way to show your solidarity in the fight to retain some
basic Constitutional freedoms.

If you have questions, just let me know.

Robert

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Message no. 2
From: Robert Watkins <robertdw@*******.com.au>
Subject: Re: Put Blue Ribbons on Your Web Pages
Date: Mon, 5 Feb 1996 18:24:29 +1100 (EST)
>The Electronic Frontier Foundation (http://www.eff.org) is organizing The
>Blue Ribbon Campaign for Online Freedom of Speech, Press and
>Association. As part of this campain, the EFF is encouraging everyone to
>put graphics of blue ribbons on to their home pages.

Hey, use it to "censor" some indecent material, perhaps?
What did they decide to do 'bout overseas material? Is it still okay for
me to swear, as long as you don't listen?


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Message no. 3
From: "A Halliwell" <u5a77@**.keele.ac.uk>
Subject: Re: Put Blue Ribbons on Your Web Pages
Date: Mon, 5 Feb 1996 11:42:02 +0000 (GMT)
|
|>The Electronic Frontier Foundation (http://www.eff.org) is organizing The
|>Blue Ribbon Campaign for Online Freedom of Speech, Press and
|>Association. As part of this campain, the EFF is encouraging everyone to
|>put graphics of blue ribbons on to their home pages.
|
|Hey, use it to "censor" some indecent material, perhaps?
|What did they decide to do 'bout overseas material? Is it still okay for
|me to swear, as long as you don't listen?

What could they do? Demand extradition?
Seriously, they'd probably prosecute thee internet servers found with your
foul language in thier pages. (Or at least try.)

I'm not going to tone down my language for some american beaurocrat. They
don't havee a cat in hells chance of controling the internet.

If american servers are forced to use ceensorship, then a lot of americans
will just move outside the country.

That's the beauty of the internet. You can always find another route to the
info you want.
(For example, here at Keele the newsgroup alt.2600 is banned. You can't
access it from TIN (the newsgroup reader).
You can bypass the blockade from other peoples web pointers though...)
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Message no. 4
From: Robert Watkins <robertdw@*******.com.au>
Subject: Re: Put Blue Ribbons on Your Web Pages
Date: Tue, 6 Feb 1996 00:01:33 +1100 (EST)
>(For example, here at Keele the newsgroup alt.2600 is banned. You can't
>access it from TIN (the newsgroup reader).
>You can bypass the blockade from other peoples web pointers though...)

They're doing it wrong then. It's meant to be blocked off at the
newserver, and the server for tin and the server for your browser should
be the same...

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Message no. 5
From: "A Halliwell" <u5a77@**.keele.ac.uk>
Subject: Re: Put Blue Ribbons on Your Web Pages
Date: Mon, 5 Feb 1996 13:23:26 +0000 (GMT)
|
|>(For example, here at Keele the newsgroup alt.2600 is banned. You can't
|>access it from TIN (the newsgroup reader).
|>You can bypass the blockade from other peoples web pointers though...)
|
|They're doing it wrong then. It's meant to be blocked off at the
|newserver, and the server for tin and the server for your browser should
|be the same...

I've never actually tried it myself, so it can't give too many details, but
from what I've heard it's possible.
(I know, hearsay is pretty worthless).
Perhaps it's bypassed by telneting to somewhere where a different newsserver
is active or using an internet browser to access the news from someone elses
server. I'm still too new at the internet stuff to know all th answers, but
one thing is for sure.

The internet was designed to be bypassable in case sections of it got
destroyed or controlled by the ruskies.....
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______________________________________________________________________________
| |What to do if you find yourself stuck in a crackin |
|u5a77@**.keele.ac.uk |the ground beneath a giant bolder, which you can't |
| |move, with no hope of rescue. |
|Andrew Halliwell |Consider how lucky you are that life has been good |
|Principal in:- |to you so far... |
|Comp Sci & Visual Arts | -The BOOK, Hitchhikers guide to the galaxy. |
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