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Message no. 1
From: mike klein <klein@******.OSWEGO.EDU>
Subject: Q: How to power cyberware A: ?
Date: Sat, 13 Nov 1993 18:05:34 -0500
I have a fundamental question about cyberware itself:

Through Shadowtech we know how it bonds to the meat, how it interacts with
our central nervous system, and how essence is removed from ones body.

I'm not sure i saw anything on how cyberware itself is powered. Do our
samuri run on duracell's? Do we run on cold fusion, nuclear isotopes?
And theoretically if exposed to a EM pulse could basically turn our mighty
samuri into something as useful as a three legged troll

I missed the last 6 months of this listserv, and if this question was
adressed, let me know.


Dr. B.A. Souls -doctor with a fine set a cutlery
Message no. 2
From: The Deb Decker <RJR96326@****.UTULSA.EDU>
Subject: Re: Q: How to power cyberware A: ?
Date: Sat, 13 Nov 1993 17:40:22 GMT
How is cyberware powered?

According to Tom Dowd, it doesn't matter. It works.

However, in Iron Crown's Cyberspace, they mention 3 options:
1) Batteries: Advanced microcells thta let the gunbunny keep mowing
and mowing and mowing through the opposition.
2) Solar Power: get a tan and feel powerful.
3) Central Nervous System wiring--it's powered directly off of
your body's electricity. I think this is plausible for
limbs and other things that replace natural and mostly
mecahanical 'ware, but radios and the like take a little
more juice.

And GURPS Cyberpunk adds (as possibilities, mind you):
4) A fueled motor. Like Hydrogen-oxygen in a controlled reaction.
5) A Flywheel. No theoretical limit on how much it can store; it depends
on how much internal friction is reduced. The GM has a very
free hand in deciding the consumption/refuel rate.
6) Mini nuclear reactor, ala 6$million man.

Also, does each item need its own power, or can you get a central
source that powers several gizmos at once? A limb could hold batteries,
but an eye?


J Roberson
Message no. 3
From: "Robert A. Hayden" <hayden@*******.MANKATO.MSUS.EDU>
Subject: Re: Q: How to power cyberware A: ?
Date: Sat, 13 Nov 1993 17:59:42 -0600
Didn't DLoH essentially say 'Who gives a shit?' when asked this question?

See GURPS: Cyberpunk, it has some very workable powering solutions (I'm
too lazy to dig it out right now to summarize).

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Message no. 4
From: mike klein <klein@******.OSWEGO.EDU>
Subject: Re: Q: How to power cyberware A: ?
Date: Sun, 14 Nov 1993 02:05:57 -0500
On Sat, 13 Nov 1993, Robert A. Hayden wrote:

> Didn't DLoH essentially say 'Who gives a shit?' when asked this question?
>
> See GURPS: Cyberpunk, it has some very workable powering solutions (I'm
> too lazy to dig it out right now to summarize).


When i come to finding more interesting ways of screwing up samuri and deckers
i thought the "Dark Lord on High" would be more responsive.
Not to be disrespectful or anything.

i still like the idea of the duracells

bAs

you send 'um, we carve 'um up
Message no. 5
From: "Robert A. Hayden" <hayden@*******.MANKATO.MSUS.EDU>
Subject: Re: Q: How to power cyberware A: ?
Date: Sun, 14 Nov 1993 01:13:43 -0600
On Sun, 14 Nov 1993, mike klein wrote:

> On Sat, 13 Nov 1993, Robert A. Hayden wrote:
>
> > Didn't DLoH essentially say 'Who gives a shit?' when asked this question?
>
> When i come to finding more interesting ways of screwing up samuri and deckers
> i thought the "Dark Lord on High" would be more responsive.
> Not to be disrespectful or anything.

How is that disrepectful?

Actually, this response for DLoH is what has me really irked about FASA's
responses to the system. Obviously, if we didn't give a shit, we
wouldn't ask, and to have (for all intents and purposes) FASA telling us
that we shouldn't care, is just stupid.

Sorry, DLoH, but this response DOES tick me off.

---

Perhaps for NERPS: ShadowLore II I'll write up a complete section on
powering cyber, or perhaps we need to make NERPS: How This Crap Actually
Works.

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Message no. 6
From: Hobbes Patrol Headquarters <TYGER@****.WINONA.MSUS.EDU>
Subject: Re : Q: How to power cyberware A: ?
Date: Sun, 14 Nov 1993 20:10:34 -0500
>I have a fundamental question about cyberware itself:

>I'm not sure i saw anything on how cyberware itself is powered. Do our
>samuri run on duracell's? Do we run on cold fusion, nuclear isotopes?

We had a solution, that there was a pump that worked using the various
large arteries, like a hydro-electric plant. This was good for small cyber
(eyes, ears, and what not) Bigger stuff (limbs) is tougher. I look at it
like a battery. Hmm... That's an idea to do to my group...

-Tyger

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"It's not like talking with people. With people, anything can be said and
nothing matters. Words and words and words. You go to a party... people
sit around and say things. Anything. Just to talk. Put forth views and
debate them. Sometimes you get a new idea. Sometimes something changes"
-Luicifer
From "Virtual Realities"
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Message no. 7
From: Mark Imbriaco <mai@**.ODU.EDU>
Subject: Re : Q: How to power cyberware A: ?
Date: Sun, 14 Nov 1993 21:46:08 -0500
Hobbes Patrol Headquarters writes:
> >I have a fundamental question about cyberware itself:
>
> >I'm not sure i saw anything on how cyberware itself is powered. Do our
> >samuri run on duracell's? Do we run on cold fusion, nuclear isotopes?
>
> We had a solution, that there was a pump that worked using the various
> large arteries, like a hydro-electric plant. This was good for small cyber
> (eyes, ears, and what not) Bigger stuff (limbs) is tougher. I look at it
> like a battery. Hmm... That's an idea to do to my group...
>
> -Tyger

To paraphrase Tom Down: "Who cares? It works." Or something to that effect.
It is nearly impossible to say what kind of power source a technology in the
future will use, since the advances that will be made are unknown..

Mark
Message no. 8
From: Hobbes Patrol Headquarters <TYGER@****.WINONA.MSUS.EDU>
Subject: Re : Q: How to power cyberware A: ?
Date: Sun, 14 Nov 1993 21:12:12 -0500
> >I have a fundamental question about cyberware itself:
>
> >I'm not sure i saw anything on how cyberware itself is powered. Do our
> >samuri run on duracell's? Do we run on cold fusion, nuclear isotopes?
>
> We had a solution, that there was a pump that worked using the various
> large arteries, like a hydro-electric plant.
>
> -Tyger

]To paraphrase Tom Down: "Who cares? It works." Or something to that effect.
]It is nearly impossible to say what kind of power source a technology in the
]future will use, since the advances that will be made are unknown..

Well, it's flavor. It's also something to have your sammies doing while
waiting for a meet with Mr J. (I change powerpacks while Mr. J takes his
time to get here...)

It's also something to get players to think about what they have in them.
It's something that I need, once in a while, as a GM to get players to get
'real'.

It'll never happen, but I can dream...

-Tyger

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"It's not like talking with people. With people, anything can be said and
nothing matters. Words and words and words. You go to a party... people
sit around and say things. Anything. Just to talk. Put forth views and
debate them. Sometimes you get a new idea. Sometimes something changes"
-Luicifer
From "Virtual Realities"
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Message no. 9
From: Mark Imbriaco <mai@**.ODU.EDU>
Subject: Re : Q: How to power cyberware A: ?
Date: Sun, 14 Nov 1993 23:25:47 -0500
Hobbes Patrol Headquarters writes:

> ]To paraphrase Tom Down: "Who cares? It works." Or something to that
effect.
> ]It is nearly impossible to say what kind of power source a technology in the
> ]future will use, since the advances that will be made are unknown..
>
> Well, it's flavor. It's also something to have your sammies doing while
> waiting for a meet with Mr J. (I change powerpacks while Mr. J takes his
> time to get here...)
>
> It's also something to get players to think about what they have in them.
> It's something that I need, once in a while, as a GM to get players to get
> 'real'.
>
> It'll never happen, but I can dream...

hehe.. Knock yourself out. :) If you come up with a plausible
solution, let me know. <grin>

Mark
Message no. 10
From: Fahnuir <FAHNUIR@******.BITNET>
Subject: Re : Q: How to power cyberware A: ?
Date: Mon, 15 Nov 1993 12:13:17 PRT
Hobbes Patrol Headquarters writes:
> > >I have a fundamental question about cyberware itself:
> >
> > >I'm not sure i saw anything on how cyberware itself is powered. Do our
> > >samuri run on duracell's? Do we run on cold fusion, nuclear isotopes?
> >
> > We had a solution, that there was a pump that worked using the various
> > large arteries, like a hydro-electric plant. This was good for small cyber
> > (eyes, ears, and what not) Bigger stuff (limbs) is tougher. I look at it
> > like a battery. Hmm... That's an idea to do to my group...
> >
> > -Tyger
>
>To paraphrase Tom Down: "Who cares? It works." Or something to that
effect.
>It is nearly impossible to say what kind of power source a technology in the
>future will use, since the advances that will be made are unknown..
>
>Mark


As anyone ever thought about the Cyberware beeing powered by the electrical
impulses of the nervous system ( no thwaps please..., i want to go to BioPhysic
s and i think that this has some logic. At least it has something to do with it
...).

Fahnuir

P.S.- NO THWAPS PLEEEEEEEASE!!!!!!

In your room, i feel you and i just can't get enough...
Judas
Message no. 11
From: Dylan Northrup <northrup@*****.CAS.USF.EDU>
Subject: Re: Q: How to power cyberware A: ?
Date: Mon, 15 Nov 1993 13:13:07 -0500
On Sat, 13 Nov 1993, mike klein wrote:

> I have a fundamental question about cyberware itself:
>
> I'm not sure i saw anything on how cyberware itself is powered. Do our
> samuri run on duracell's? Do we run on cold fusion, nuclear isotopes?
> And theoretically if exposed to a EM pulse could basically turn our mighty
> samuri into something as useful as a three legged troll
>
> I missed the last 6 months of this listserv, and if this question was
> adressed, let me know.

This question was posed to the DLoH and his response was: 'It works. If
you want to go into the mechanics behind what powers it you are more than
welcome, but it makes the game much more complicated."

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