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Message no. 1
From: Jean-François Major maje123@*******.com
Subject: Quebec in 2060
Date: Mon, 14 Aug 2000 07:52:41 EDT
I stumbled across a website that gave some information on how Quebec was
supposed to be in shadowrun -and let's say it wasn't very flattering about
us, quebeccers- and I want to know if anybody can give me some confirmation
on this, and where can I find the book that says so (my guess would be
Neo-Anarchist's Guide to North America).
Simply put, Quebec is a place where highway is an independant country
without any highways, 'cause the government doesn't have any money left to
pay for their upkeep. So most people use a Maglev train that goes from
Quebec city to Montreal to UCAS. Quebec's 20-30 late about technology, and
its dumb citizens (who, by the way, will shoot you with a sawed-off shotgun
"just because you speak english") are ruled by bikers syndicate. Yay.
Jean-F. Major
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Message no. 2
From: Jean-François Major maje123@*******.com
Subject: Quebec in 2060
Date: Mon, 14 Aug 2000 10:37:17 EDT
> Simply put, Quebec is a place where highway is an independant country
>without any highways, 'cause the government doesn't have any money left to
>pay for their upkeep. So most people use a Maglev train that goes from
>Quebec city to Montreal to UCAS. Quebec's 20-30 late about technology, and
>its dumb citizens (who, by the way, will shoot you with a sawed-off shotgun
>"just because you speak english") are ruled by bikers syndicate. Yay.
> Jean-F. Major
> Major2000@*******.com

Sorry, just found some typo mistakes I made. ;-)
I meant that the highways would actually be little more than chunks of
asphalt toppled one on another (becuase of the, oh so harsh winters of
2060), and that Quebec would be 20-30 years late about technology.
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Message no. 3
From: Wordman wordman@*******.com
Subject: Quebec in 2060
Date: Mon, 14 Aug 2000 11:33:17 -0400
> I want to know if anybody can give me some confirmation
> on this, and where can I find the book that says so (my guess would be
> Neo-Anarchist's Guide to North America).

http://pobox.com/~lward/sixthworld/northamerica/quebec.html
Message no. 4
From: Bai Shen baishen@**********.com
Subject: Quebec in 2060
Date: Mon, 14 Aug 2000 11:52:14 -0400
> > I want to know if anybody can give me some confirmation
> > on this, and where can I find the book that says so (my guess would be
> > Neo-Anarchist's Guide to North America).
> http://pobox.com/~lward/sixthworld/northamerica/quebec.html

Cool site. :)

Bai Shen
Message no. 5
From: Jeff axter@*****.com
Subject: Quebec in 2060
Date: Mon, 14 Aug 2000 18:37:02 -0700 (PDT)
--- Jean-François Major <maje123@*******.com> wrote:
> I stumbled across a website that gave some
> information on how Quebec was
> supposed to be in shadowrun -and let's say it wasn't
> very flattering about
> us, quebeccers- and I want to know if anybody can
> give me some confirmation
> on this, and where can I find the book that says so
> (my guess would be
> Neo-Anarchist's Guide to North America).
> Simply put, Quebec is a place where highway is
> an independant country
> without any highways, 'cause the government doesn't
> have any money left to
> pay for their upkeep. So most people use a Maglev
> train that goes from
> Quebec city to Montreal to UCAS. Quebec's 20-30
> late about technology, and
> its dumb citizens (who, by the way, will shoot you
> with a sawed-off shotgun
> "just because you speak english") are ruled by
> bikers syndicate. Yay.
> Jean-F. Major
> Major2000@*******.com


I stumbled across the same site and I figured it's the
author's view of Quebec and not official ruling. But I
hope something will come out about quebec in futur
publication.

En passant, de quelle région viens-tu?

====Jeff

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Message no. 6
From: .stefan stefan@*****.org
Subject: Quebec in 2060
Date: Tue, 15 Aug 2000 03:42:59 +0200
I don't have NAGNA infront of me right now but I think there is something
about Quebec there, since I have never been to Quebec I can't tell if it
has changed that much attitude wise or whatever but it appears to be quite
standard in most rpgs that french speakin places gets a bad rep. Can't
think of many games at all where France is a nice place it is mostly a
source of evil, nuclear waste lands, toxic spills and so on ... But from
what I have gathered Quebec is pretty much run by one corp and the others
are just there for show.

.stefan


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Message no. 7
From: Jean-François Major maje123@*******.com
Subject: Quebec in 2060
Date: Mon, 14 Aug 2000 22:00:06 EDT
>I stumbled across the same site and I figured it's the
>author's view of Quebec and not official ruling. But I
>hope something will come out about quebec in futur
>publication.

Well, the way I understand it, it was more a "less horrible, we are less
stupid than FASA thinks" version, if you read the introduction text. Like a
"if they don't want to give us a decent country to play, we'll make a cooler
one".

>En passant, de quelle région viens-tu?

Je viens tout juste d'arriver à Montréal. ;-)
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Message no. 8
From: Raa bc591813@**.uqam.ca
Subject: Quebec in 2060
Date: Mon, 14 Aug 2000 22:18:24 -0400
At 22:00 2000-08-14 EDT, you wrote:
>>I stumbled across the same site and I figured it's the
>>author's view of Quebec and not official ruling. But I
>>hope something will come out about quebec in futur
>>publication.
>
>Well, the way I understand it, it was more a "less horrible, we are less
>stupid than FASA thinks" version, if you read the introduction text. Like a
>"if they don't want to give us a decent country to play, we'll make a cooler
>one".
>
>>En passant, de quelle région viens-tu?
>
>Je viens tout juste d'arriver à Montréal. ;-)

I dont really like the fway Quebecers are portraid in Shadowrun. But let
see what information the people of FASA had to work with. Well not much.
They used what they heard and lets face it, we Quebecer dont have a really
good rep with the reste of Canada. So they went with what they had. And
beside, I prefer the futur of Quebec than the futur of Denver or the US.
Lets face it nobody have a good futur in Shadowrun.

Je suis moi aussi de Montréal :o)

Robert
Message no. 9
From: Aewyn labsyn@*********.com
Subject: Quebec in 2060
Date: Mon, 14 Aug 2000 22:20:04 -0500
At 21:00 -0500 14/08/2000, Jean-FranÁois Major enlightened us on the topic
of Re: Quebec in 2060:
>>I stumbled across the same site and I figured it's the
>>author's view of Quebec and not official ruling. But I
>>hope something will come out about quebec in futur
>>publication.
>
>Well, the way I understand it, it was more a "less horrible, we are less
>stupid than FASA thinks" version, if you read the introduction text. Like a
>"if they don't want to give us a decent country to play, we'll make a cooler
>one".

It was still "horrible and stupid", as far as I'm concerned. I mean,
catholicism becoming as important as it was before the Revolution
tranquille, a language police, outdated technology...

>Je viens tout juste d'arriver ý MontrÈal. ;-)

Bienvenue!

Farewell,
Aewyn.
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Message no. 10
From: Rand Ratinac docwagon101@*****.com
Subject: Quebec in 2060
Date: Mon, 14 Aug 2000 23:46:49 -0700 (PDT)
> >I stumbled across the same site and I figured it's
the author's view of Quebec and not official ruling.
But I hope something will come out about quebec in
futur publication.
>
> Well, the way I understand it, it was more a "less
horrible, we are less stupid than FASA thinks"
version, if you read the introduction text. Like a
"if they don't want to give us a decent country to
play, we'll make a cooler one".

Actually, JF, if what you said is an accurate
representation, FASA's version of Quebec is much less
patronising than the author indicated. The best way to
describe the Quebec of SR times is "rabidly insular".
Quebec has taken separatism to extremes, with the
exception of a few corporate enclaves. Really, you
need to find the NAGtNA, or get someone who's got it
to tell you what it says. My memory is MUCH too rusty
to be trusted on this one (for details, anyway). I
read it a while ago and I didn't pay that close
attention - Quebec is unlikely to ever figure into a
game of mine. Not the way FASA wrote it, anyway.

====Doc'
(aka Mr. Freaky Big, Super-Dynamic Troll of Tomorrow, aka Doc'booner, aka Doc' Vader)

.sig Sauer

Can you SMELL what THE DOC' is COOKIN'!!!

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Message no. 11
From: Aewyn labsyn@*********.com
Subject: Quebec in 2060
Date: Tue, 15 Aug 2000 10:08:44 -0500
At 21:18 -0500 14/08/2000, Raa enlightened us on the topic of Re: Quebec in
2060:

>Je suis moi aussi de Montréal :o)


Hey, would any of you be interested in writing a Quebec netbook? I mean,
FASA's version of quebec sucks, and those two sites I've found offerring
some info on the topic aren't much better -and haven't been updated in ages.


Farewell,
Aewyn.
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Reality's unreal.
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Message no. 12
From: BOUCHARD ROBERT bc591813@**.uqam.ca
Subject: Quebec in 2060
Date: Tue, 15 Aug 2000 10:41:28 -0400 (EDT)
> At 21:18 -0500 14/08/2000, Raa enlightened us on the topic of Re: Quebec in
> 2060:
>
> >Je suis moi aussi de Montréal :o)
>
>
> Hey, would any of you be interested in writing a Quebec netbook? I mean,
> FASA's version of quebec sucks, and those two sites I've found offerring
> some info on the topic aren't much better -and haven't been updated in ages.
>
>
> Farewell,
> Aewyn.
> --------
> There is only one absolute truth about life: it will end.
> Reality's unreal.
> "Just because you're paranoid don't mean they're not after you"
> -Nirvana
>
>
>
>

Yeah why not...

Raa
Message no. 13
From: Jean-François Major maje123@*******.com
Subject: Quebec in 2060
Date: Tue, 15 Aug 2000 14:30:01 EDT
>Hey, would any of you be interested in writing a Quebec netbook? I mean,
>FASA's version of quebec sucks, and those two sites I've found offerring
>some info on the topic aren't much better -and haven't been updated in
>ages.

Well, I like the idea of bikers instead of Mafia and Yakuza, and the
blown-up highways, but I feel pretty upset about the "we're going to shoot
you 'cuz you're speaking english" and 20-30 years late for technology part.
Yeah, a netbook's a nice idea.
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Message no. 14
From: Paul Collins paulcollins@*******.com
Subject: Quebec in 2060
Date: Thu, 17 Aug 2000 00:37:47 +1000
> >Hey, would any of you be interested in writing a Quebec netbook? I mean,
> >FASA's version of quebec sucks, and those two sites I've found offerring
> >some info on the topic aren't much better -and haven't been updated in
> >ages.
>
> Well, I like the idea of bikers instead of Mafia and Yakuza, and the
> blown-up highways, but I feel pretty upset about the "we're going to shoot
> you 'cuz you're speaking english" and 20-30 years late for technology
part.
> Yeah, a netbook's a nice idea.

Well, there is the bugger you English speakin scum, we aint going to talk to
you type of attitude, so they may not learn/buy the modern thingies. Which
seems to be the way FASA did Quebec.

They also may have isolated themselves and gone real insular, which could
lead to falling behind the SOTA, but could also lead to a few good
smuggling runs :o)

Annachie. (Probaby rehashing things but what the hey)

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