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Message no. 1
From: lists@*******.com (Wordman)
Subject: Questionably legal T-shirt making [OT]
Date: Thu, 24 Nov 2005 11:09:48 -0500
Since this list has had some t-shirt production experience, I thought
you may be able to advise me.

After watching the Incredibles recently, I became obsessed with the
little iconic heads used in the end credits. I'd very much like a
black t-shirt with these heads in "Incredible" orange across the
front, and nothing else. I figured given Disney's marketing
exuberance I'd be able to find one, but they don't seem to make them.
In fact, these little icon heads don't show up on .any. product that
I can find.

So, in desperation, I'm thinking that if I produced one (1) of these
shirts for my own use, I could (probably) claim fair use and be on my
way. The problem is that I'm not sure a) what my options are for
producing such a shirt at home and b) how well such options work. For
the moment, ignore cost.
Message no. 2
From: sfeley@*****.com (Stephen Eley)
Subject: Questionably legal T-shirt making [OT]
Date: Thu, 24 Nov 2005 13:16:14 -0500
On 11/24/05, Wordman <lists@*******.com> wrote:
>
> So, in desperation, I'm thinking that if I produced one (1) of these
> shirts for my own use, I could (probably) claim fair use and be on my
> way. The problem is that I'm not sure a) what my options are for
> producing such a shirt at home and b) how well such options work. For
> the moment, ignore cost.

Design the image, submit it to CafePress (http://www.cafepress.com),
buy one, then shut down your "store" after you receive it. In theory
they block stuff that's a copyright or trademark violation, but the
odds that they'd notice this one in time are inconsequential.

--
Have Fun,
Steve Eley (sfeley@*****.com)
ESCAPE POD - The Science Fiction Podcast Magazine
http://www.escapepod.info
Message no. 3
From: jjvanp@*****.com (Jan Jaap van Poelgeest)
Subject: Questionably legal T-shirt making [OT]
Date: Thu, 24 Nov 2005 10:49:09 -0800 (PST)
--- Wordman <lists@*******.com> wrote:

[snip]

I'd check the local directories for t-shirt printing
services. Try to find one that uses high quality tees
(or will allow you to supply your own).

If you're only using one colour then screenprinting
would be the way to go. It exudes quality and takes
longer to come off with washing. I've also heard of a
new procedure which essentially dyes the fibres of the
shirt, but this only came in dark colours when I
checked.

cheers,

Jan Jaap



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Message no. 4
From: bandwidthoracle@*******.net (bandwidthoracle)
Subject: Questionably legal T-shirt making [OT]
Date: Thu, 24 Nov 2005 12:21:25 -0700
Stephen Eley wrote:

>On 11/24/05, Wordman <lists@*******.com> wrote:
>
>
>>So, in desperation, I'm thinking that if I produced one (1) of these
>>shirts for my own use, I could (probably) claim fair use and be on my
>>way. The problem is that I'm not sure a) what my options are for
>>producing such a shirt at home and b) how well such options work. For
>>the moment, ignore cost.
>>
>>
>
>Design the image, submit it to CafePress (http://www.cafepress.com),
>buy one, then shut down your "store" after you receive it. In theory
>they block stuff that's a copyright or trademark violation, but the
>odds that they'd notice this one in time are inconsequential.
>
>--
>Have Fun,
> Steve Eley (sfeley@*****.com)
> ESCAPE POD - The Science Fiction Podcast Magazine
> http://www.escapepod.info
>
>
>
You could try here: http://www.zazzle.com/
Message no. 5
From: failhelm@*****.com (Failhelm)
Subject: Questionably legal T-shirt making [OT]
Date: Thu, 24 Nov 2005 21:31:20 -0800
I thought if such a use or design was strictly personal it fell under free
speach law? I think they would have to prove "damages" to even persue. It's
not enough to say that Wordman's design is much better than our crappy
t-shirts.

I'm no lawyer, but I follow enough.

On 11/24/05, Wordman <lists@*******.com> wrote:
>
> Since this list has had some t-shirt production experience, I thought
> you may be able to advise me.
>
> After watching the Incredibles recently, I became obsessed with the
> little iconic heads used in the end credits. I'd very much like a
> black t-shirt with these heads in "Incredible" orange across the
> front, and nothing else. I figured given Disney's marketing
> exuberance I'd be able to find one, but they don't seem to make them.
> In fact, these little icon heads don't show up on .any. product that
> I can find.
>
> So, in desperation, I'm thinking that if I produced one (1) of these
> shirts for my own use, I could (probably) claim fair use and be on my
> way. The problem is that I'm not sure a) what my options are for
> producing such a shirt at home and b) how well such options work. For
> the moment, ignore cost.
>

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