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Message no. 1
From: Ron Rich <spectre@****.NET>
Subject: Question about stacked spell effects
Date: Mon, 26 May 1997 00:36:27 -0400
I have a question that I was hoping someone on the list could help me
out with : last night our mage, who was astral, stacked two powerballs
and sent them both at the opposition's power focus. The focus was
wrecked by the first powerball, what happens to the second one?
Message no. 2
From: NightLife <habenir@******.SAN.UC.EDU>
Subject: Re: Question about stacked spell effects
Date: Mon, 26 May 1997 00:46:55 -0400
At 12:36 AM 5/26/97 -0400, you wrote:
>I have a question that I was hoping someone on the list could help me
>out with : last night our mage, who was astral, stacked two powerballs
>and sent them both at the opposition's power focus. The focus was
>wrecked by the first powerball, what happens to the second one?
>

Zippo. It just fizzles in astral if theres a real time difference say a
action or two. if not hmmm. Unless his intent was to ground through the
focus I'd sat it would still fizzle. If however the intent was ground then
blamo the unsuspecting mage gets the powerball whamo.

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Message no. 3
From: Gurth <gurth@******.NL>
Subject: Re: Question about stacked spell effects
Date: Mon, 26 May 1997 10:57:46 +0100
Ron Rich said on 0:36/26 May 97...

> I have a question that I was hoping someone on the list could help me
> out with : last night our mage, who was astral, stacked two powerballs
> and sent them both at the opposition's power focus. The focus was
> wrecked by the first powerball, what happens to the second one?

Since both were cast simultaenously, I think it would have hit at exactly
the same time as the first spell, and done its damage as normal.

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Message no. 4
From: Spike <u5a77@*****.CS.KEELE.AC.UK>
Subject: Re: Question about stacked spell effects
Date: Mon, 26 May 1997 08:41:34 +0100
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|I have a question that I was hoping someone on the list could help me
|out with : last night our mage, who was astral, stacked two powerballs
|and sent them both at the opposition's power focus. The focus was
|wrecked by the first powerball, what happens to the second one?
|

It was wasted. It had no target to ground into, so the spell looked around,
sulked, and slinked off into the netherworlds......
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Message no. 5
From: Mark Steedman <M.J.Steedman@***.RGU.AC.UK>
Subject: Re: Question about stacked spell effects
Date: Tue, 27 May 1997 12:51:33 GMT
Ron Rich writes

> I have a question that I was hoping someone on the list could help me
> out with : last night our mage, who was astral, stacked two powerballs
> and sent them both at the opposition's power focus. The focus was
> wrecked by the first powerball, what happens to the second one?
>
As they were cast similtaneously i don't see why they shouldn't both
ground out. You might like to rule 1 spell per rating point of focus
but i suspect the poor target gets both as being stacked the spells
are turely similtaneous.

Mark
Message no. 6
From: Justin Pinnow <vanyel@*******.NET>
Subject: Re: Question about stacked spell effects
Date: Tue, 27 May 1997 14:30:56 -0400
Date: Tuesday, May 27, 1997 8:51 AM

Mark Steedman wrote:

<Snip>

> As they were cast similtaneously i don't see why they shouldn't both
> ground out. You might like to rule 1 spell per rating point of focus
> but i suspect the poor target gets both as being stacked the spells
> are turely similtaneous.

Actually, I disagree on this one. ;) The spells are stacked, but the
spells take effect in the order that the casting magician desires. This is
very important. This means that if a mage stacks a force 6 mana bolt and a
force 6 power bolt and flings them at somoeone (poor guy), the magician
decides which effect will take place first. Then the second effect takes
place. Thus, they aren't simultaneous.

As far as how that effects the grounding aspect, I would rule that since
the first spell wrecked the focus, there is no longer a link to ground
through, and the second spell just fizzles.

> Mark

Justin :)
Message no. 7
From: "MARTIN E. GOTTHARD" <s457033@*******.GU.EDU.AU>
Subject: Re: Question about stacked spell effects
Date: Wed, 28 May 1997 20:15:16 +1000
> > I have a question that I was hoping someone on the list could help me
> > out with : last night our mage, who was astral, stacked two powerballs
> > and sent them both at the opposition's power focus. The focus was
> > wrecked by the first powerball, what happens to the second one?
> >
> As they were cast similtaneously i don't see why they shouldn't both
> ground out. You might like to rule 1 spell per rating point of focus
> but i suspect the poor target gets both as being stacked the spells
> are turely similtaneous.
>

If they do occur simulataneously, the defender uses the full power focus
dice to resist BOTH spells; The focus doesn't get wrecked by either spell
until after they've both gone through.

An Analogy:- Get a ten amp fuse; pour 40 amps through it and it smokes
up. Pour 80 amps through it and it smokes up faster, but that 80 amps
still gets through in the fraction of time before the wire slags.

If you try and send two sequential pulses of 40 amps though, the second one
won't arrive because the circuit is broken.

(If you're being fully logical the focus dice should possibly get split
between the spells......... but stacking spells onto a focus is a real
bastard thing to do, and almost guarantees that you'll slag the focus....
something that the rules didn't account for when stacking was introduced.)

Marty
Message no. 8
From: Mike Hartmann <hartmann@***********.M.EUNET.DE>
Subject: Re: Question about stacked spell effects
Date: Wed, 28 May 1997 16:29:44 +0000
> I have a question that I was hoping someone on the list could help me
> out with : last night our mage, who was astral, stacked two powerballs
> and sent them both at the opposition's power focus. The focus was
> wrecked by the first powerball, what happens to the second one?

In case of stacked spells, I would rule that the second goes through
with full force.

Bye Mike
---
Mike Hartmann, Munich
Message no. 9
From: "Boyd Stephen Smith, Jr." <gilmeth@*********.COM>
Subject: Re: Question about stacked spell effects
Date: Thu, 29 May 1997 23:14:45 -0500
From: Justin Pinnow [SMTP:vanyel@*******.NET]
Subject: Re: Question about stacked spell effects

> Date: Tuesday, May 27, 1997 8:51 AM

> Mark Steedman wrote:

> <Snip>

> >As they were cast similtaneously i don't see why they shouldn't both
> >ground out. You might like to rule 1 spell per rating point of focus
> >but I suspect the poor target gets both as being stacked the spells
> >are truly similtaneous.

> Actually, I disagree on this one. ;) The spells are stacked, but the
> spells take effect in the order that the casting magician desires. This is
> very important. This means that if a mage stacks a force 6 mana bolt and a
> force 6 power bolt and flings them at somoeone (poor guy), the magician
> decides which effect will take place first. Then the second effect takes
> place. Thus, they aren't simultaneous.

> As far as how that effects the grounding aspect, I would rule that since
> the first spell wrecked the focus, there is no longer a link to ground
> through, and the second spell just fizzles.

Well, I was under the impression that in the game (to the
Mage's perception) They all were cast at the same time and
acted simultaneously. I thought that only us (the player's) that
the spells were "in a certain order" since we can't roll all those
dice at once and then try and shuffle though them.

Well, you could but, I wouldn't want to.


Twinkie
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