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Message no. 1
From: Nobuhito Onodera <onodera@****.CO.JP>
Subject: Question about Toxic Shamans.
Date: Tue, 12 Sep 1995 10:31:52 JST
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Hello.

There are two types of Toxic Shamans in Grimoire 2nd edition rule book.
What is the difference between a Avenger and a Poisoner?

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Nobuhito Onodera
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Message no. 2
From: Dustin Wood <cukoo@*****.NET>
Subject: Re: Question about Toxic Shamans.
Date: Mon, 11 Sep 1995 19:32:26 -0700
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>There are two types of Toxic Shamans in Grimoire 2nd edition rule book.
>What is the difference between a Avenger and a Poisoner?
>
The way I follow, an Avenger targets those who corrupt nature, while
poisoners are just out and out bad nasties and do the corrupting themselves.
That brings a question to mind, It'd be pretty cool to face poisoners
against avengers huh?
Message no. 3
From: Marc A Renouf <jormung@*****.UMICH.EDU>
Subject: Re: Question about Toxic Shamans.
Date: Tue, 12 Sep 1995 00:22:27 -0400
On Tue, 12 Sep 1995, Nobuhito Onodera wrote:

> There are two types of Toxic Shamans in Grimoire 2nd edition rule book.
> What is the difference between a Avenger and a Poisoner?

According to the Grimoire, the difference is as follows: the
Poisoner is a toxic shaman bent on the destruction of all that is natural
and good. He or she seeks to twist and pollute (or "poison" if you will)
nature to serve his or her own presumably nefarious ends.
The Avenger, on the other hand, is someone who is disgusted at
humanity's wanton destruction of nature. However, in a twisted leap of
logic, the Avenger has decided to "fight fire with fire." This type of
toxic shaman will use toxic spirits and hostile magics to punish those
who cause harm to nature, to "avenge" the wrongs that humanity has
inflicted on the environment.
So in the end, both use the same methods. The only difference is
their motivation.

Marc
Message no. 4
From: Gurth <gurth@******.NL>
Subject: Re: Question about Toxic Shamans.
Date: Tue, 12 Sep 1995 10:50:43 +0200
>There are two types of Toxic Shamans in Grimoire 2nd edition rule book.
>What is the difference between a Avenger and a Poisoner?

An Avenger kills you if you polute nature, a Poisoner kills you if you don't :)

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Message no. 5
From: Kelly Martin <kelly@*******.BLOOMINGTON.IN.US>
Subject: Re: Question about Toxic Shamans.
Date: Tue, 12 Sep 1995 21:27:44 EST5
"Nobuhito" == Nobuhito Onodera <onodera@****.CO.JP> writes:

Nobuhito> There are two types of Toxic Shamans in Grimoire 2nd edition
Nobuhito> rule book. What is the difference between a Avenger and a
Nobuhito> Poisoner?

are you familiar with the "Toxic Avenger" (it's a series of movies and
may have been a TV show, too)?

Avengers are holy defenders of the purity of Gaia. they seek to
return Earth to its natural, pristine condition--by eradicating
humanity.

Poisoners are just plain crocked, taking advantage of those portions
of nature which have already become twisted in order to further their
own nefarious goals.

k.
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kelly martin <kelly@*******.bloomington.in.us>

You can't sue one hundred million people.
-- me, as quoted in the August 14, 1995 New York Times.
Message no. 6
From: Kelly Martin <kelly@*******.BLOOMINGTON.IN.US>
Subject: Re: Question about Toxic Shamans.
Date: Tue, 12 Sep 1995 21:29:20 EST5
"Dustin" == Dustin Wood <cukoo@*****.NET> writes:

Dustin> The way I follow, an Avenger targets those who corrupt
Dustin> nature, while poisoners are just out and out bad nasties and
Dustin> do the corrupting themselves. That brings a question to mind,
Dustin> It'd be pretty cool to face poisoners against avengers huh?

it would be interesting, at least. stay _well_ out of the way,
though. :)

k.
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kelly martin <kelly@*******.bloomington.in.us>

The test of a first-rate intelligence is the ability to hold two opposed
ideas in mind at the same time and still retain the ability to function.
One should, for example, be able to see that things are hopeless and yet
be determined to make them otherwise. -- F. Scott Fitzgerald

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