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Message no. 1
From: shadowrn@*********.com (Stephen Manning)
Subject: Question:Drain for spells
Date: Sun Apr 1 01:20:01 2001
I just read the errata for the main book and it says that magic can stage.
Now my Question is this when resisting the spell do you resist at the damage
level you cast it at or at the damage level you inflict. My first thought is
that you resist the the drain at the level you inflict but I can see
arguments why it would be the other way around.

As always thank you for the answers and the advice.

Paradox
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Message no. 2
From: shadowrn@*********.com (M.S. "Herc" Bobroff)
Subject: Question:Drain for spells
Date: Sun Apr 1 03:00:01 2001
----- Original Message -----
From: "Stephen Manning" <paradox3149@*******.com>


> I just read the errata for the main book and it says that magic can stage.
> Now my Question is this when resisting the spell do you resist at the
damage
> level you cast it at or at the damage level you inflict. My first thought
is
> that you resist the the drain at the level you inflict but I can see
> arguments why it would be the other way around.
>
> As always thank you for the answers and the advice.
>
> Paradox

The mage resists the drain at the damage level they cast the spell at.
Staging is more a reflection of the skill of the mage in question.

-Mike
Message no. 3
From: shadowrn@*********.com (Chris Maxfield)
Subject: Question:Drain for spells
Date: Sun Apr 1 03:55:01 2001
Records show that at 01:20 on Sunday 1/04/01, Stephen Manning scribbled:
>I just read the errata for the main book and it says that magic can stage.
>Now my Question is this when resisting the spell do you resist at the
>damage level you cast it at or at the damage level you inflict. My first
>thought is that you resist the the drain at the level you inflict but I
>can see arguments why it would be the other way around.

The resistance is rolled (against the force of the spell) before the spell
is staged since it is the net successes that determines the final damage
(if any) inflicted upon the target. The mechanics of casting damaging
spells are almost exactly like standard ranged combat.

Chris
Message no. 4
From: shadowrn@*********.com (Phil Smith)
Subject: Question:Drain for spells
Date: Sun Apr 1 04:35:01 2001
>From: "Stephen Manning" <paradox3149@*******.com>

With combat, elemental manipulations and some telekenetic manipulations
spells that do damage primarily (ie. not Levitate), damage is staged up from
the chosen damage level by 1 level for every 2 successes. The target then
resists that damage. For every two successes generated by the target the
damage level is reduced by 1, if the target generates more successes than
the caster in the case of combat spells, no damage is done. I hope that
helps.

Phil

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around the ruins of Rockefeller Center. You will wear leather clothes that
last you the rest of your life. You will climb the wrist-think kudzu vines
that wrap the Sears Tower and as you look down you will see tiny figures
pounding corn and laying-strips of venison on the empty car pool lane of
some abandoned superhighway.
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Message no. 5
From: shadowrn@*********.com (Chris Maxfield)
Subject: Question:Drain for spells
Date: Sun Apr 1 04:55:01 2001
Records show that at 08:36 on Sunday 1/04/01, Phil Smith scribbled:
>With combat, elemental manipulations and some telekenetic manipulations
>spells that do damage primarily (ie. not Levitate), damage is staged up
>from the chosen damage level by 1 level for every 2 successes. The target
>then resists that damage. For every two successes generated by the target
>the damage level is reduced by 1, if the target generates more successes
>than the caster in the case of combat spells, no damage is done. I hope
>that helps.

You have the target resisting after the staging. I do not believe this
sequence is correct. Staging is part of determining a spell's effect and
calculated by "the difference between the caster's successes and the
target's" p183 SR3. As can be seen by these words and by the listed
sequence of Spell Casting mechanics, the target always resists before spell
effects (i.e. before staging). :-)

Chris
Message no. 6
From: shadowrn@*********.com (Gurth)
Subject: Question:Drain for spells
Date: Sun Apr 1 05:25:01 2001
According to Stephen Manning, on Sun, 01 Apr 2001 the word on the street
was...

> I just read the errata for the main book and it says that magic can stage.
> Now my Question is this when resisting the spell do you resist at the damage
> level you cast it at or at the damage level you inflict. My first thought is
> that you resist the the drain at the level you inflict but I can see
> arguments why it would be the other way around.

You resist drain for combat and damaging manipulation spells at the damage
you initially set it at. A Mana Bolt at Moderate damage with four net
successes behind it will still only cause (Force / 2)M drain, not (Force /
2)D.

Compare it to other types of spell: when you cast Invisibility and score
six successes, you still only resist the base drain, not an increased
drain because it worked so well.

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Message no. 7
From: shadowrn@*********.com (Chris Maxfield)
Subject: Question:Drain for spells
Date: Sun Apr 1 06:45:01 2001
>Records show that at 01:20 on Sunday 1/04/01, Stephen Manning scribbled:
>>I just read the errata for the main book and it says that magic can
>>stage. Now my Question is this when resisting the spell do you resist at
>>the damage level you cast it at or at the damage level you inflict. My
>>first thought is that you resist the the drain at the level you inflict
>>but I can see arguments why it would be the other way around.

Gah! My second reading comprehension failure in as many days. Please ignore
my previous ramblings. The drain the magician resists is based off the
damage level he chose for his spell at the time of its casting,
irrespective of how the spell's damage stages after the target's resistance
test.

Chris

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