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Message no. 1
From: Nacon _ nac0n@*******.com
Subject: Question on Initiation
Date: Fri, 07 Jul 2000 06:37:37 EDT
Ok guys and gals
1)Can a mage use the magic point from initiating to buy Phyad powers?
2)And if so can the mage buy killing hands and use them in astral
projecting?

Thanks
-CiD-
-Aut Pax, Aut Bellum-

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Message no. 2
From: NeoJudas neojudas@******************.com
Subject: Question on Initiation
Date: Fri, 7 Jul 2000 05:54:02 -0500
From: "Nacon _" <nac0n@*******.com>
Subject: Question on Initiation


> Ok guys and gals
> 1)Can a mage use the magic point from initiating to buy Phyad powers?
> 2)And if so can the mage buy killing hands and use them in astral
> projecting?

Unless the mage is an Adept on the "Path of the Magician", by the books, no
they may not.

Answers second question as well.



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Message no. 3
From: Gurth gurth@******.nl
Subject: Question on Initiation
Date: Fri, 7 Jul 2000 19:02:17 +0200
According to Nacon _, at 6:37 on 7 Jul 00, the word on the street was...

> Ok guys and gals
> 1)Can a mage use the magic point from initiating to buy Phyad powers?

No. You can do it the other way around: be an adept with the Magical Power
power (power :) of page 22 of MITS, as that will allow you to have both
physad powers and be able to cast spells. The way you're asking about,
though, is not possible.

> 2)And if so can the mage buy killing hands and use them in astral
> projecting?

Obviously, the answer to this is "no." Being an adept with Magical Power
doesn't help very much here, either, as they are totally incapable of
astral projection, and have to learn astral perception as a power.
However, a physad with Astral Perception power and Killing Hands would be
able to use KH on the astral plane.

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Message no. 4
From: Alfredo B Alves dghost@****.com
Subject: Question on Initiation
Date: Fri, 7 Jul 2000 11:31:55 -0500
On Fri, 7 Jul 2000 05:54:02 -0500 "NeoJudas"
<neojudas@******************.com> writes:
> From: "Nacon _" <nac0n@*******.com>
> Subject: Question on Initiation
> > Ok guys and gals
> > 1)Can a mage use the magic point from initiating to buy Phyad
> > powers?
> > 2)And if so can the mage buy killing hands and use them in
> > astral
> > projecting?

> Unless the mage is an Adept on the "Path of the Magician", by the
> books, no
> they may not.
>
> Answers second question as well.

Actually, Adepts of the Pathe of the Magician can't astrally project. :)

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Message no. 5
From: Phil Smith phil_urbanhell@*******.com
Subject: Question on Initiation
Date: Fri, 07 Jul 2000 17:28:59 GMT
>From: "Nacon _" <nac0n@*******.com>
>Ok guys and gals
> 1)Can a mage use the magic point from initiating to buy Phyad powers?

No, phisads spend magic from initiating on power points, mages get higher
magic.

Phil

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Message no. 6
From: Brian Johnson expatrie@*******.net
Subject: Question on Initiation
Date: Fri, 07 Jul 2000 13:00:16 -0500
Gurth wrote:

> According to Nacon _, at 6:37 on 7 Jul 00, the word on the street was...
>
> > Ok guys and gals
> > 1)Can a mage use the magic point from initiating to buy Phyad powers?
>
> No. You can do it the other way around: be an adept with the Magical Power
> power (power :) of page 22 of MITS, as that will allow you to have both
> physad powers and be able to cast spells. The way you're asking about,
> though, is not possible.
>
> > 2)And if so can the mage buy killing hands and use them in astral
> > projecting?
>
> Obviously, the answer to this is "no." Being an adept with Magical Power
> doesn't help very much here, either, as they are totally incapable of
> astral projection, and have to learn astral perception as a power.
> However, a physad with Astral Perception power and Killing Hands would be
> able to use KH on the astral plane.
>

2) Well, yes. They need a spirit with astral gateway to get into astral
projection, but it would require an adept (physical), or magician with adept
powers (however that works now). But I'd say they can do it then.



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Message no. 7
From: Gurth gurth@******.nl
Subject: Question on Initiation
Date: Sat, 8 Jul 2000 11:36:19 +0200
According to Brian Johnson, at 13:00 on 7 Jul 00, the word on the street
was...

> 2) Well, yes. They need a spirit with astral gateway to get into astral
> projection

Well, duh... even a street sam with 0.01 Essence can astrally project that
way :)

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Message no. 8
From: Herc airwisp@******************.com
Subject: Question on Initiation
Date: Sat, 8 Jul 2000 10:57:37 -0500
----- Original Message -----
From: "Gurth" <gurth@******.nl>
To: <shadowrn@*********.com>
Sent: Saturday, July 08, 2000 4:36 AM
Subject: Re: Question on Initiation


> According to Brian Johnson, at 13:00 on 7 Jul 00, the word on the street
> was...
>
> > 2) Well, yes. They need a spirit with astral gateway to get into astral
> > projection
>
> Well, duh... even a street sam with 0.01 Essence can astrally project that
> way :)

And the interesting part is, that since the samurai is not the one doing the
projection, they can project for a number of hours equal to the force of the
being that is performing astral gateway on them (IIRC).

-Mike
Message no. 9
From: Brian Johnson expatrie@*******.net
Subject: Question on Initiation
Date: Sun, 09 Jul 2000 19:31:37 -0500
Gurth wrote:

> According to Brian Johnson, at 13:00 on 7 Jul 00, the word on the street
> was...
>
> > 2) Well, yes. They need a spirit with astral gateway to get into astral
> > projection
>
> Well, duh... even a street sam with 0.01 Essence can astrally project that
> way :)
>
> --
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> Yes, I am broadcasting myself!
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>
> GC3.1: GAT/! d-(dpu) s:- !a>? C+(++)@ UL P L+ E? W(++) N o? K- w+ O V? PS+
> PE Y PGP- t(+) 5++ X++ R+++>$ tv+(++) b++@ DI? D+ G(++) e h! !r(---) y?
> Incubated into the First Church of the Sqooshy Ball, 21-05-1998

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