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Message no. 1
From: paool paool@*******.net
Subject: Quick hello and some thoughts
Date: Tue, 09 Mar 1999 12:40:33 -0500
First off, i'd just like to say hi, and note that this is a great idea.
I know many moons ago, something like the SCR would of been of great
help.

Anyways, I've been reading the posts, and i've seen quite a few good
ideas, and a whole lot o' chaos. I do realize that this is a new list,
and in a few days or so, things will calm down and some sort of
Brilliant Plan (tm) will develop.

Just as a little side note... recently I've started plans for a web site
dedicated to bringing Deckers and the Matrix out of the "Things to
Avoid" list to the "Things that add Quality to the Game." Alot of GMs
and players I know are afraid to bring the matrix to the table, forcing
it to NPC roles, simply because it's complex and not explained enough.
I'd be more than willing to devote my work to the SCR rather than
another SR web page.

So...if somebody grabs the leader hat and starts passing out work, I'd
be more than willing to work on anything Matrix.

paool
Message no. 2
From: Ryan W. Bolduan emeottrw@***.umn.edu
Subject: Quick hello and some thoughts
Date: Tue, 9 Mar 1999 12:07:25 -0600 (CST)
On Tue, 9 Mar 1999, paool wrote:

> Just as a little side note... recently I've started plans for a web site
> dedicated to bringing Deckers and the Matrix out of the "Things to
> Avoid" list to the "Things that add Quality to the Game." Alot of GMs
> and players I know are afraid to bring the matrix to the table, forcing
> it to NPC roles, simply because it's complex and not explained enough.
> I'd be more than willing to devote my work to the SCR rather than
> another SR web page.
>
> So...if somebody grabs the leader hat and starts passing out work, I'd
> be more than willing to work on anything Matrix.
>
> paool
>
>
Welcome to the list paool...Although I'd hardly call it new, new location
yes, new list, not a chance.

I don't know if I'd call a lot of the reluctance to use Deckers around
here fear of complex rules (or lack of rules). I think VR2.0 is more than
effective in explaining actions on the matrix, and in some cases, almost
too cumbersome.

For the group I GM, not including a decker (and delegating any decker
responsibilities to an NPC) are more a matter of convenience. There is
nothing more boring than to have a Decker go into the matrix and spend
upwards of an hour or so running the matrix while the rest of the team
twiddles their thumbs. In my experience, deckers are so interested in not
only the task at hand, but grabbing that "paydata" as well that having a
decker PC just makes the game move too slowly. I know it's not just my
style of GMing too, it has happened in almost every SR game I've become
involved in as a PC as well.

I forget who, but somebody pointed out that in every run on the matrix
for a decker only a few seconds in real time pass by. While the at least
mages in astral space and riggers are using the same combat turn and
actions that the rest of the team are using.

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Ryan Bolduan emeottrw@***.mrs.umn.edu
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A person concerned with such important matters as I, need not, and should
not, attend to spelling.
--Napolean
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Message no. 3
From: David Buehrer dbuehrer@******.carl.org
Subject: Quick hello and some thoughts
Date: Tue, 9 Mar 1999 11:18:08 -0700 (MST)
paool wrote:
/
/ First off, i'd just like to say hi, and note that this is a great idea.
/ I know many moons ago, something like the SCR would of been of great
/ help.
/
/ Anyways, I've been reading the posts, and i've seen quite a few good
/ ideas, and a whole lot o' chaos. I do realize that this is a new list,
/ and in a few days or so, things will calm down and some sort of
/ Brilliant Plan (tm) will develop.

This is the list for ShadowRN. The SCR list is a different list (on the
same server).

:)

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Message no. 4
From: Adam J adamj@*********.html.com
Subject: Quick hello and some thoughts
Date: Tue, 09 Mar 1999 11:30:55 -0700
At 12:07 3/9/99 -0600, Ryan W. Bolduan wrote:

>> So...if somebody grabs the leader hat and starts passing out work, I'd
>> be more than willing to work on anything Matrix.

>Welcome to the list paool...Although I'd hardly call it new, new location
>yes, new list, not a chance.

I'm pretty sure that Paool's post was meant to go to the Shadowrun Creative
Resources list, which is new.. :-)

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