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Message no. 1
From: Bull <chaos@*****.COM>
Subject: Quiet List
Date: Fri, 1 Nov 1996 21:37:11 -0500
Hey everyone...:) Is it my imagination, or has this list gotten real quiet
lately?

Granted, this probably has a lot to do with Me, Pete, Sascha, and most of
the other noisies being busy elsewhere, but... We went from getting 150+
posts a day to less than 50. Hmmm, guess we need another major
controversial and idiotic topic to argue about... <evil grin>

Suggestions?

-Bull-the-looking-to-cause-a-little-trouble-decker-turned-GM
Message no. 2
From: Dane Jensen <djensen@*********.COM>
Subject: Re: Quiet List
Date: Fri, 1 Nov 1996 20:19:58 -0800
> We went from getting 150+
> posts a day to less than 50. Hmmm, guess we need another major
> controversial and idiotic topic to argue about... <evil grin>

Oh no, please give us some advance warning as to when the list will pick
up (Yeah I know, "Yeah right" you must be thinking) to allow me time to
get an e-mail prog with filters. Any suggestions?

Psyber
Message no. 3
From: "Steven A. Tinner" <bluewizard@*****.COM>
Subject: Re: Quiet List
Date: Fri, 1 Nov 1996 23:12:01 -0800
> Hey everyone...:) Is it my imagination, or has this list gotten real quiet
> lately?
>
> Granted, this probably has a lot to do with Me, Pete, Sascha, and most of
> the other noisies being busy elsewhere, but... We went from getting 150+
> posts a day to less than 50. Hmmm, guess we need another major
> controversial and idiotic topic to argue about... <evil grin>
>
> Suggestions?

How about "Interesting ways to kill overly powerful Ork Deckers?" -
Today on Oprah! :-)

Seriously though I do have one idea I want to run by everyone, but
first, this disclaimer:

<Before I get flamed, NO! I am not condoning the use of drugs!!!! This
is a FANTASY game, and Harmacy is intended to be a tragic character. He
was born as a "Crack" baby and still struggles with addiction. I want to
see if there can be any sort of redemption for a messed up PC like this,
or if he will swiftly slide down the path to destruction. It's an
IMAGINARY experiment, and certainly NOT meant to convey a light-hearted
attitude toward drug use, OK?>

I am about to embark on an experiment.

I am going to run a truly tragic, pathetic, and for all intents and
purposes - EVIL character in a Shadowrun game.

His name is Harmacy (rhymes with Pharmacy - for obvious reasons)
He is what I am tentatively calling a "Speed" Samuari, or a chemical
Samurai.
Rather than use bioware or cyberware to gain an edge, he uses drugs and
chemicals.

Harmacy will make extensive use of the Lone Star combat drug Jazz, as
well as the booster drug Kamikaze.
His main weapon is an Ares SuperSquirt.

He will be uncouth, foul and intolerant, in general he will come across
as a total, unrepentant scumbag, and I fully imagine he will die within
a few months of game time.

However, before everyone asks why I would want to play such a loser,
there is a method to my madness.

This character offers our group a unique opportunity for role playing.
How will the other players react to this fool?
Will they simply ignore his VERY obvious problems, and let him slide
into oblivion?
Or will they rally together, and try to save this junkie before he
totally burns himself out?

It may be a dark road ahead, but if my players behave the way I believe
they will, I think we can really play an excellent redemption plotline
for Harmacy.

So what do you all think?
Am I wasting my time with this?
Is this too dark for Shadowrun?
Any sugestions for other things to introduce to make the character more
beleiveable, and personal?

Steven A. Tinner
"Wind the Frog!"
Message no. 4
From: David Buehrer <dbuehrer@****.ORG>
Subject: Re: Quiet List
Date: Sat, 2 Nov 1996 10:12:41 -0700
Bull wrote:
|
|Hey everyone...:) Is it my imagination, or has this list gotten real quiet
|lately?

I don't know how to tell you this Bull... but the list has gotten back to
*normal*. :)

|Granted, this probably has a lot to do with Me, Pete, Sascha, and most of
|the other noisies being busy elsewhere, but... We went from getting 150+
|posts a day to less than 50. Hmmm, guess we need another major
|controversial and idiotic topic to argue about... <evil grin>
|
|Suggestions?

How much wood could a woodchuck chuck if a woodchuck could chuck wood?

;)

-David

/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\ dbuehrer@****.org /^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\
"His thoughts tumbled in his head, making and breaking
alliances like underpants in a dryer without Cling Free."
~~~http://www.geocities.com/TimesSquare/1068/homepage.htm~~~~
Message no. 5
From: "Robert Pendergrast (Tom)" <3011_3@***.EDU>
Subject: Re: Quiet List
Date: Sat, 2 Nov 1996 09:21:07 -0700
> |Suggestions?

> How much wood could a woodchuck chuck if a woodchuck could chuck wood?

42.

Tom.
Message no. 6
From: David Buehrer <dbuehrer@****.ORG>
Subject: Re: Quiet List
Date: Sat, 2 Nov 1996 10:21:50 -0700
Robert Pendergrast wrote:
|
|> |Suggestions?
|
|> How much wood could a woodchuck chuck if a woodchuck could chuck wood?
|
|42.

LOL

-David

/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\ dbuehrer@****.org /^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\/^\
"His thoughts tumbled in his head, making and breaking
alliances like underpants in a dryer without Cling Free."
~~~http://www.geocities.com/TimesSquare/1068/homepage.htm~~~~
Message no. 7
From: John Pederson <Canthros@***.COM>
Subject: Re: Quiet List
Date: Sat, 2 Nov 1996 19:40:49 -0500
In a message dated 96-11-01 21:33:22 EST, you write:

>Suggestions?
>
>-Bull-the-looking-to-cause-a-little-trouble-decker-turned-GM
>
>

FAB? Grounding? Astral bodies affecting the mundane plane? :):):):)
I'm just joking, don't thwap me! please?

John Pederson
canthros@***.com
http://members.gnn.com/lenoj/johns.htm
Message no. 8
From: The Crucible <crucible@******.MUR.CSU.EDU.AU>
Subject: Re: Quiet List
Date: Sun, 3 Nov 1996 12:42:52 +1100
> Bull wrote:
> |
> |Hey everyone...:) Is it my imagination, or has this list gotten real quiet
> |lately?
>
> I don't know how to tell you this Bull... but the list has gotten back to
> *normal*. :)
>
> |Granted, this probably has a lot to do with Me, Pete, Sascha, and most of
> |the other noisies being busy elsewhere, but... We went from getting 150+
> |posts a day to less than 50. Hmmm, guess we need another major
> |controversial and idiotic topic to argue about... <evil grin>
> |
> |Suggestions?
>
> How much wood could a woodchuck chuck if a woodchuck could chuck wood?
>
> ;)
>
> -David

As much wood as a woodchuck would chuck if a wood chuck could chuck wood...

if that makes any sense at all... which is very doubtful....

Crucible

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Message no. 9
From: Enganador@***.COM
Subject: Re: Quiet List
Date: Sat, 2 Nov 1996 22:33:56 -0500
Hey, this "chemical samurai" you're discussing sounds very much like the
juicers in Rifts. Do you play that game or is this just a random coincidence?
Message no. 10
From: The Crucible <crucible@******.MUR.CSU.EDU.AU>
Subject: Re: Quiet List
Date: Sun, 3 Nov 1996 14:56:35 +1100
> Hey, this "chemical samurai" you're discussing sounds very much like the
> juicers in Rifts. Do you play that game or is this just a random coincidence?
>

I hadnt actually thought of that but you are right.. I play rifts too...
brilliant game.. and the best part is like GURPs you can basically play
rifts within any of the other RPGs.... hmmm maybe if any of the drugs
from the juicer in rifts could be moved into the Shadowrun environment?
(Anyone?) I dont GM in that either... well to tell the truth the only
thing I have GM/DMed in is ADnD.... so *hides*...but its a cool game also...

What are you in that? Just out of interest... I am a
Great Horned Dragon named Wynn in Rifts.... and basically for shadowrun
a Troll Sammie... hmmm named Ugh for his intelligence skill when I made
him...

I havent actually given any of my characters the name Crucible.. cause I
just havent... but if the troll survives a few more missions there is a
very good possibility....

Anyone play any games apart from Shadowrun? Moved rules and items etc
between them? Come across any mage that has magically transported you
into ADnD for a slaughter match? (hey just trying to stop the
quietness... even if I do get flamed to all hell ;) )


Crucible

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Message no. 11
From: Enganador@***.COM
Subject: Re: Quiet List
Date: Sat, 2 Nov 1996 22:49:03 -0500
Yeah, I play and Gm rifts....I love the japan setting, and I Gm that...not
surprisingly, I find myself making it into a very-Shadowrun-esque
environment....I like the cyber-samurai best of all the OCC's there are. They
are just too cool for words.
I haven't tried many rules conversions between rifts and shadowrun, mostly
because they are too different game systems to begin with. However, I did toy
with the idea of focuses( or foci, if we're gonna be grammatically correct)
for Rifts. However, i'm just too busy (or lazy : )) to actually do it.

I'd like to re-ask what somebody mentioned the other day about there being
any e-mail games going on. I'm definitely interested in that. Or maybe live
games in an IRC.....
Message no. 12
From: Dvixen <Dvixen@********.COM>
Subject: Re: Quiet List
Date: Sat, 2 Nov 1996 23:29:12 -0800
> > |Suggestions?
> >
> > How much wood could a woodchuck chuck if a woodchuck could chuck wood?
> >
> > ;)
> >
> > -David
>
> As much wood as a woodchuck would chuck if a wood chuck could chuck
wood...
>
> if that makes any sense at all... which is very doubtful....
>
> Crucible

Somebody beat me to it!
<slinks back under a rock>
Message no. 13
From: Spike <u5a77@*****.CS.KEELE.AC.UK>
Subject: Re: Quiet List
Date: Sun, 3 Nov 1996 13:07:21 +0000
|How much wood could a woodchuck chuck if a woodchuck could chuck wood?
|
|;)

I'm sorry, but as a follower of the great Internet Oracle, the only think I
can do now is ask him to ZOT you for uttering the blasphemous phrase.....

And I hope he does....
So there.....

####### ###
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# # # # #
# # # #
# # # # ###
####### #### # ###

Yep.... Looks like he agreed with me on that one......
<BG>
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|u5a77@*****.cs.keele.ac.uk| |
|Andrew Halliwell | "ARSE! GERLS!! DRINK! DRINK! DRINK!!!" |
|Principal subjects in:- | "THAT WOULD BE AN ECUMENICAL MATTER!...FECK!!!! |
|Comp Sci & Electronics | - Father Jack in "Father Ted"
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Message no. 14
From: Spike <u5a77@*****.CS.KEELE.AC.UK>
Subject: Re: Quiet List
Date: Sun, 3 Nov 1996 13:07:56 +0000
|
|> |Suggestions?
|
|> How much wood could a woodchuck chuck if a woodchuck could chuck wood?
|
|42.

Right answer.... Wrong question....
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|u5a77@*****.cs.keele.ac.uk| |
|Andrew Halliwell | "ARSE! GERLS!! DRINK! DRINK! DRINK!!!" |
|Principal subjects in:- | "THAT WOULD BE AN ECUMENICAL MATTER!...FECK!!!! |
|Comp Sci & Electronics | - Father Jack in "Father Ted"
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Message no. 15
From: Spike <u5a77@*****.CS.KEELE.AC.UK>
Subject: Re: Quiet List
Date: Sun, 3 Nov 1996 13:17:30 +0000
|FAB? Grounding? Astral bodies affecting the mundane plane? :):):):)
|I'm just joking, don't thwap me! please?

Oh go on......
Just one waffer theen thwap.....
It's only waffer theen....

(He said, trying the only "Monty-Python, meaning of life" joke.)
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|u5a77@*****.cs.keele.ac.uk| |
|Andrew Halliwell | "ARSE! GERLS!! DRINK! DRINK! DRINK!!!" |
|Principal subjects in:- | "THAT WOULD BE AN ECUMENICAL MATTER!...FECK!!!! |
|Comp Sci & Electronics | - Father Jack in "Father Ted"
|
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|X+/++ R+ tv+ b+ D G e>PhD h/h+ !r! !y-|I can't say F**K either now! >*SULK*<|
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Message no. 16
From: Spike <u5a77@*****.CS.KEELE.AC.UK>
Subject: Re: Quiet List
Date: Sun, 3 Nov 1996 13:26:46 +0000
|
|Hey, this "chemical samurai" you're discussing sounds very much like the
|juicers in Rifts. Do you play that game or is this just a random coincidence?
|

Hmmmm. I'd not thought of that....
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|u5a77@*****.cs.keele.ac.uk| |
|Andrew Halliwell | "ARSE! GERLS!! DRINK! DRINK! DRINK!!!" |
|Principal subjects in:- | "THAT WOULD BE AN ECUMENICAL MATTER!...FECK!!!! |
|Comp Sci & Electronics | - Father Jack in "Father Ted"
|
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|GCv3.1 GCS/EL>$ d---(dpu) s+/- a- C++ U N++ K- w-- M+/++ PS+++ PE- Y t+ 5++ |
|X+/++ R+ tv+ b+ D G e>PhD h/h+ !r! !y-|I can't say F**K either now! >*SULK*<|
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Message no. 17
From: Spike <u5a77@*****.CS.KEELE.AC.UK>
Subject: Re: Quiet List
Date: Sun, 3 Nov 1996 13:28:52 +0000
|I hadnt actually thought of that but you are right.. I play rifts too...
|brilliant game.. and the best part is like GURPs you can basically play
|rifts within any of the other RPGs.... hmmm maybe if any of the drugs
|from the juicer in rifts could be moved into the Shadowrun environment?
|(Anyone?) I dont GM in that either... well to tell the truth the only
|thing I have GM/DMed in is ADnD.... so *hides*...but its a cool game also...

It's not really practical...
The way the Juicer works is by wearing a drug harness which constantly
injects a coctail of drugs and hormones....

None of the drugs are discussed separately...
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|u5a77@*****.cs.keele.ac.uk| |
|Andrew Halliwell | "ARSE! GERLS!! DRINK! DRINK! DRINK!!!" |
|Principal subjects in:- | "THAT WOULD BE AN ECUMENICAL MATTER!...FECK!!!! |
|Comp Sci & Electronics | - Father Jack in "Father Ted"
|
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|GCv3.1 GCS/EL>$ d---(dpu) s+/- a- C++ U N++ K- w-- M+/++ PS+++ PE- Y t+ 5++ |
|X+/++ R+ tv+ b+ D G e>PhD h/h+ !r! !y-|I can't say F**K either now! >*SULK*<|
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Message no. 18
From: Kurt Montgomery <gilean@****.MUSCANET.COM>
Subject: Re: Quiet List
Date: Fri, 4 Jan 1980 01:51:06 -0600
At 11:29 PM 11/2/96 -0800, you wrote:
>> > |Suggestions?
>> >
>> > How much wood could a woodchuck chuck if a woodchuck could chuck wood?
>> >
>> > ;)
>> >
>> > -David
>>
>> As much wood as a woodchuck would chuck if a wood chuck could chuck
>wood...

But, if a woodchuck could, and a woodchuck would, how much wood would a wood
chuck chuck, if a wood chuck could chuck wood?
Message no. 19
From: Steadfast laughingman@*******.de
Subject: Quiet List
Date: Mon, 15 Feb 1999 23:36:02 +0100
Its been awfully quiet during the last days. Are there any holidays in the
US or any other part of the world other than germany? I need some food for
thought!
;o)
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|---> Steadfast |
| Selfproclaimed protector of Gerber |
| BABY's |
| Mmwahahahahaar... |
| "I have 'grosse bumm' in my Pocket! |
| Yes, a real 'GROSSE BUUMM'!" |
|German translation for Savalette Guardian.|
|__________________________________________|
Message no. 20
From: Snake Eyes snake.eyes@********.att.net
Subject: Quiet List
Date: Mon, 15 Feb 1999 14:02:03 -0800
At 11:36 PM 2/15/99 +0100, Steadfast wrote:
>Its been awfully quiet during the last days. Are there any holidays in the
>US or any other part of the world other than germany? I need some food for
>thought!
>;o)
>--
> __________________________________________
>|---> Steadfast |
>| Selfproclaimed protector of Gerber |
>| BABY's |
>| Mmwahahahahaar... |
>| "I have 'grosse bumm' in my Pocket! |
>| Yes, a real 'GROSSE BUUMM'!" |
>|German translation for Savalette Guardian.|
>|__________________________________________|
>

Those of us lucky enough to be attached probably had to take a time out in
real life to celebrate St. Valentine's Day. It's also a federal holiday
weekend (President's Day) in the US, so those that post from their work
accounts are probably elsewhere.

~Snake Eyes
Message no. 21
From: Starrngr@***.com Starrngr@***.com
Subject: Quiet List
Date: Tue, 16 Feb 1999 00:07:09 EST
In a message dated 99-02-15 17:31:14 EST, you write:

> Its been awfully quiet during the last days. Are there any holidays in the
> US or any other part of the world other than germany? I need some food for
> thought!
> ;o)

As a matter of fact, YES, Steadfast. Today was President;s day, observed. Of
course, I had to work.. SIGH. What is worse is once upon a time there was a
regular convention in LA on this weekend, but not anymore, apparently.
Message no. 22
From: Marc Renouf renouf@********.com
Subject: Quiet List
Date: Tue, 16 Feb 1999 08:37:07 -0500 (EST)
On Mon, 15 Feb 1999, Snake Eyes wrote:

> Those of us lucky enough to be attached probably had to take a time out in
> real life to celebrate St. Valentine's Day. It's also a federal holiday
> weekend (President's Day) in the US, so those that post from their work
> accounts are probably elsewhere.

Yah! As if. The postal service and government employees are
about the only people that get Presidents' Day off. I know I was sitting
here working like a drudge.

Marc
Message no. 23
From: Blackadder blkadder@****.net
Subject: Quiet List
Date: Tue, 16 Feb 1999 08:44:55 -0500
I'm just glad the whole V-Day Massacre crap is over for another
year. I can finally breath now, and unclench that knot in my neck, and
get some writing done. I'm tempted to do a V-Day shadowrun, where
everyone dies.....but I'm not bitter ;-]

The BlackAdder!!!
Bah! Humbug!
Message no. 24
From: Kama kama@*******.net
Subject: Quiet List
Date: Tue, 16 Feb 1999 09:13:59 -0500 (EST)
On Tue, 16 Feb 1999, Marc Renouf wrote:

>
>
> On Mon, 15 Feb 1999, Snake Eyes wrote:
>
> > Those of us lucky enough to be attached probably had to take a time out in
> > real life to celebrate St. Valentine's Day. It's also a federal holiday
> > weekend (President's Day) in the US, so those that post from their work
> > accounts are probably elsewhere.
>
> Yah! As if. The postal service and government employees are
> about the only people that get Presidents' Day off. I know I was sitting
> here working like a drudge.
>

Errr . . . I think that it is mostly just quiet. After all, I'm a
goverment employee and was stuck at work. My husband works for the
University System and had to work (classes weren't cancelled). As far as I
know public school children were the only people who got yesterday off.

As for Valentine's day. Well, in addition to those who are unattached. I'm
sure that we weren't the only attached people who had the holiday come and
go without doing anything. (Feburary 14, love, February 14)


Kama
Message no. 25
From: Tony Rabiola rabiola@**.netcom.com
Subject: Quiet List
Date: Tue, 16 Feb 1999 13:01:09 -0600
> I'm just glad the whole V-Day Massacre crap is over for another
>year. I can finally breath now, and unclench that knot in my neck,
and
>get some writing done. I'm tempted to do a V-Day shadowrun, where
>everyone dies.....but I'm not bitter ;-]
>
>The BlackAdder!!!
> Bah! Humbug!



Last of the real romantics, aren't you BA?? (grin)

OT, might we see a return to the PBEM game soon??

Tony Rabiola
rabiola@**.netcom.com
Fourth and Sixth World Adept
(still working on the Fifth)
Proud owner BABY #972

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