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Message no. 1
From: iridios@********.net (Iridios)
Subject: Random host generation...
Date: Thu, 07 Nov 2002 21:53:32 -0500
Greetings All,

I've been working on a project using a tool called "TableSmith".
It's a sort of generator that can take bits of information out of
tables and put them together in whatever fashion you wish. For more
information about the program itself, check out
http://www.mythosa.net/Utils.html . I've put together a script to
generate random matrix hosts based on the rules found in the "Matrix"
sourcebook. Specifically the security sheaf generation.
I get some really long sheaves using this script. Example:

Blue-5:12:11:10:13:10
Host is blue easy
Security Sheaf:

6 Reactive White
12 Passive Alert

<snip 21 extraneous steps>

148 Active Alert
154 Proactive White
161 Proactive White
166 Proactive White
173 Proactive Gray
178 Proactive Gray
185 Proactive Gray
190 Proactive Gray
195 Proactive Gray
202 Proactive Gray
207 Shutdown

I feel that there is entirely too many ICe for a blue easy host, and
can't seem to find any canon modifier that would ensure fewer steps
to reach the alerts. I do know that I can just ignore/reroll the
results, but I will probably script in some sort of limiter. The
above example was the first roll done to generate a result for this
email, the # of steps tend to be on the high side more than the low
side.

Also, I could not find any relation between the hosts security
rating and it's ACIFS values. Am I having a blonde moment and am just
plain missing it? Or is there no relation. Should there be?

If anyone else is using TableSmith for SR, what scripts have you
developed? I will be putting mine up on my site in the near future.
This one, a companion script for detailed ICe generation, and a "Life
History" script based on Gurth's Life History generation rules (as
long as Gurth doesn't mind. Gurth?)



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Iridios
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Message no. 2
From: grenaldi@*********.net (Joshua Mun)
Subject: Random host generation...
Date: Fri, 08 Nov 2002 00:41:50 -0500
Iridios wrote:

> If anyone else is using TableSmith for SR, what scripts have you
> developed? I will be putting mine up on my site in the near future.
> This one, a companion script for detailed ICe generation, and a "Life
> History" script based on Gurth's Life History generation rules (as
> long as Gurth doesn't mind. Gurth?)
>

It looks from the results you are getting as if you are forgetting to
add 1 for every trigger step passed to the role for the alert table.
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Message no. 3
From: Gurth@******.nl (Gurth)
Subject: Random host generation...
Date: Fri, 8 Nov 2002 11:22:21 +0100
According to Iridios, on Fri, 08 Nov 2002 the word on the street was...

> I get some really long sheaves using this script. Example:
[snip]
> I feel that there is entirely too many ICe for a blue easy host, and
> can't seem to find any canon modifier that would ensure fewer steps
> to reach the alerts.

With all host generators I've written (two or three, I think; I guess I
lost count :) I didn't find that problem. There is a built-in limit: you
need to add the number of steps at the current alert level to the roll on
the Alert Table on p. 115 of Matrix -- this is explained under Generating
Security Sheaves on page 112 of that same book. This ensures you will
always get an alter after no more than 8 steps.

> Also, I could not find any relation between the hosts security
> rating and it's ACIFS values. Am I having a blonde moment and am just
> plain missing it? Or is there no relation. Should there be?

Aside from the generation method on page 205 of SR3, I don't think there is
any relationship. A easy red host will have similar ACIFS ratings to an
easy blue host, it's just that the red host will have an easier time
dealing with intruders.

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Message no. 4
From: iridios@********.net (Iridios)
Subject: Random host generation...
Date: Fri, 08 Nov 2002 19:30:37 -0500
Gurth wrote:
>
> According to Iridios, on Fri, 08 Nov 2002 the word on the street was...
>
> > I get some really long sheaves using this script. Example:
> [snip]
> > I feel that there is entirely too many ICe for a blue easy host, and
> > can't seem to find any canon modifier that would ensure fewer steps
> > to reach the alerts.
>

> need to add the number of steps at the current alert level to the roll on
> the Alert Table on p. 115 of Matrix -- this is explained under Generating
> Security Sheaves on page 112 of that same book. This ensures you will
> always get an alter after no more than 8 steps.

That's what I've been missing! Thanks to Gurth and Mr. Mun. I've
been working on this late at night while distracted by other things
and just couldn't find the reference. I was going to add this to the
script tonight anyway. Again, Thank you.

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Iridios
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July 30 These people in this usenet thing keep using capital
letters. How do they do that? I never figured out how to type
capital letters. Maybe they have a different type of keyboard.
Message no. 5
From: iridios@********.net (Iridios)
Subject: Random host generation...
Date: Fri, 08 Nov 2002 19:41:13 -0500
And now, the longest sheaf after fixing the event rolls:

Orange-10:17:8:14:8:13
Host is orange hard
Security Sheaf:

3 Passive Alert Reactive White
7 Active Alert Proactive Gray
11 Proactive Gray
16 Black
20 Black
25 Black
28 Proactive Gray
32 Proactive Gray
37 Proactive Gray
40 Black
45 Black
50 Shutdown

I think I'll keep this one in my files, whichever decker hits this
host will be in for the ride of his/her life.


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Iridios
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AUGUST 1 I FOUND THIS THING CALLED THE USENET ORACLE. IT SAYS
THAT IT CAN ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS I ASK IT. I SENT IT 44 SEPARATE
QUESTIONS ABOUT THE INTERNET. I HOPE IT RESPONDS SOON.

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