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Message no. 1
From: HALOWEEN JACK <SBC3KCB@*******.ac.uk>
Subject: Ranged Weapon Foci
Date: Thu, 22 Feb 1996 11:56:20 GMT
I think it about time that I delurked for a while as I haven't posted
here for quite a while. Ok I have some ideas on how to work the whole
ranged weapon foci. I as a GM had a discussion with one of my PC's
and that of a way to allow a very limited group be allowed to use
ranged Foci.

1. there was a description saying that when the weapon left the users
hand it no longer had contact with the users aura.
2. this was what made me think! say a physad with distance strike
threw the weapon, then immediately followed through with distance
strike could this still form a contact with the Phyads aura.
3. the distance strike itself would not damage the opponent but would
be used as the necessary link.
4. another possible extension of this idea is to allow a mage to use
a ranged weapon foci but with a modified version of the magic fingers
or telekinesis spells, that would act as the necessary link to the
mages aura.

These are some of my ideas and I have used they and they don't
unbalance the game.

hope this gives you something to think about
Haloween Jack...
Message no. 2
From: "Mark Steedman" <M.J.Steedman@***.rgu.ac.uk>
Subject: Re: Ranged Weapon Foci
Date: Thu, 22 Feb 1996 13:28:44 GMT
HALOWEEN JACK writes

[admin first, i got a 'distributing mail' when i opened this message
you might have left a confirm reading option on on your mailer,
please check as something like that happened last week and mail
reciepts ended up list distibuted, thanks]

> 1. there was a description saying that when the weapon left the users
> hand it no longer had contact with the users aura.
> 2. this was what made me think! say a physad with distance strike
> threw the weapon, then immediately followed through with distance
> strike could this still form a contact with the Phyads aura.
This sounds a good basis, might need to be a new power but say an
'expand ability trick' like you get enhanced centering.

gives
'enpower weapon foci at range'
Cost : lots! [eg 3-4]
effect allows use of bonded bow or arrow foci without the magic
failing the moment the arrow is launched.

> 3. the distance strike itself would not damage the opponent but
> would be used as the necessary link.
basis for above.


> 4. another possible extension of this idea is to allow a mage to use
> a ranged weapon foci but with a modified version of the magic fingers
> or telekinesis spells, that would act as the necessary link to the
> mages aura.
>
Maybe, with the spells in awakenings you could try this sort of thing
but its a bit ED'ish though so are several spells in awakenings.

> These are some of my ideas and I have used they and they don't
> unbalance the game.
>
> hope this gives you something to think about
yep
> Haloween Jack...
>
>
Mark
Message no. 3
From: "St. Jean, Ricky" <stjeanr@*******.CANADOREC.ON.CA>
Subject: RE: Ranged Weapon Foci
Date: Thu, 22 Feb 96 13:38:00 PST
Haloween Jack wrote:


>1. there was a description saying that when the weapon left the users
>hand it no longer had contact with the users aura.
>2. this was what made me think! say a physad with distance strike
>threw the weapon, then immediately followed through with distance
>strike could this still form a contact with the Phyads aura.
>3. the distance strike itself would not damage the opponent but would
>be used as the necessary link.
>4. another possible extension of this idea is to allow a mage to use
>a ranged weapon foci but with a modified version of the magic fingers
>or telekinesis spells, that would act as the necessary link to the
>mages aura.


My solution to this would be to tie fishing line to your arrows and stay in
with the line till it hits the target. The line is part of the arrow, the
line is in contact with you. Therefore you are in contact with the arrow.

use a separate spool for each arrow.



Ricky for munchkin president. Send campain funding to:
<<<<<stjeanr@*******.CANADORE.ON.CA>>>>>
Message no. 4
From: Larry <lomion@********.net>
Subject: RE: Ranged Weapon Foci
Date: Thu, 22 Feb 1996 21:12:40 -0500
>
>My solution to this would be to tie fishing line to your arrows and stay in
>with the line till it hits the target. The line is part of the arrow, the
>line is in contact with you. Therefore you are in contact with the arrow.
>
>use a separate spool for each arrow.
>
Seems like an awful amount of trouble just to shoot a magic arrow :>, also
what if the arrow breaks when fired, an awful amount of Karma/Money wasted.
Larry
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Message no. 5
From: Adam <adam@***.cosmos.ab.ca>
Subject: RE: Ranged Weapon Foci
Date: Thu, 22 Feb 1996 20:15:00 -0700
At 21:12 22/02/96 -0500, you wrote:

>>My solution to this would be to tie fishing line to your arrows and stay in
>>with the line till it hits the target. The line is part of the arrow, the
>>line is in contact with you. Therefore you are in contact with the arrow.

Umm..not sure that you can still get fishing line. Aren't most places so
polluted that there are no fish, therefore, why make fishing line? Just a
though...i would die if i couldn't go fishing!

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Message no. 6
From: "Gurth" <gurth@******.nl>
Subject: Re: Ranged Weapon Foci
Date: Fri, 23 Feb 1996 11:01:34 +0100
HALOWEEN JACK said on 22 Feb 96...

> 1. there was a description saying that when the weapon left the users
> hand it no longer had contact with the users aura.
> 2. this was what made me think! say a physad with distance strike
> threw the weapon, then immediately followed through with distance
> strike could this still form a contact with the Phyads aura.

Do you mean Ranged Killing Hands? I see this more as a very limited
spell-like attack, not the actual extension of the physad's aura. So that
would mean that a physad could not still hold the weapon focus after
throwing it, unless you would allow spellcasters to do the same.

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Message no. 7
From: "Gurth" <gurth@******.nl>
Subject: RE: Ranged Weapon Foci
Date: Fri, 23 Feb 1996 11:01:34 +0100
St. Jean, Ricky said on 22 Feb 96...

> My solution to this would be to tie fishing line to your arrows and stay in
> with the line till it hits the target. The line is part of the arrow, the
> line is in contact with you. Therefore you are in contact with the arrow.

I think I'd require you to make the lin part of the weapon focus, and not
just tied to the arrow when you need to shoot it. That would also mean
that, if you ever remove the line from the arrow (or even cut it), your
focus has changed and has just become worthless...

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Message no. 8
From: Larry <lomion@********.net>
Subject: Re: Ranged Weapon Foci
Date: Fri, 23 Feb 1996 16:14:05 -0500
At 11:01 02/23/96 +0100, Gurth wrote:
>HALOWEEN JACK said on 22 Feb 96...
>
>> 1. there was a description saying that when the weapon left the users
>> hand it no longer had contact with the users aura.
>> 2. this was what made me think! say a physad with distance strike
>> threw the weapon, then immediately followed through with distance
>> strike could this still form a contact with the Phyads aura.
>
>Do you mean Ranged Killing Hands? I see this more as a very limited
>spell-like attack, not the actual extension of the physad's aura. So that
>would mean that a physad could not still hold the weapon focus after
>throwing it, unless you would allow spellcasters to do the same.
>
According to Awakenings, you can combine Distance Attack with Killing Hands,
but one of them (the second bought) has it's cost doubled. I would increase
the cost of Bonding and such if yoiu wanted to do that. Also I'd allow any
grounding through it to travel back along the connection. But then again I
can be an evil SOB when it comes to that stuff :>
Larry
lomion@**.cybernex.net
http://www2.cybernex.net/~lomion
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of spectators then day of my execution and that
they greet me with cries of hate."
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Message no. 9
From: dmccraw@*****.aix.calpoly.edu
Subject: Re: Ranged Weapon Foci
Date: Fri, 23 Feb 1996 15:43:47 -0800 (PST)
In a previous letter,
>
>
>Do you mean Ranged Killing Hands? I see this more as a very limited
>spell-like attack, not the actual extension of the physad's aura. So that
>would mean that a physad could not still hold the weapon focus after
>throwing it, unless you would allow spellcasters to do the same.
>
>--
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> And I don't know why.
> -> NERPS Project Leader & Unofficial Shadowrun Guru <-
>-> The Character Mortuary: http://huizen.dds.nl/~mortuary/mortuary.html <-
>
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I allow ranged Killing Hands in my game. It is much like that of the Street
Fighter's games (fireball and such) but a physad must pay for the damage as one
higher than it is (to have S killing hands you have to pay for D killing hands)
and the damage is taken from willpower not strength and if you want normal
killing hands it is a seperate cost. The range is limited to 3 meters per magic
point.


Dustin

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