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Message no. 1
From: Shannon@*****.co.za (Shannon Buys)
Subject: Real Men, Real Role Players..
Date: Mon, 21 Oct 2002 10:44:42 +0200
Time to do a SR real men, real roleplayers list. Add anything you think is
good.

Real Men: Play Street Samurai
Real Roleplayers: Play deckers or faces
Loonies: Play disguised Orc Humanis Policlub members
Munchkins: Play Adept/Street Samurai mercenary heavy weapons specialists who
own their own arm manufacturers that compete with Ares.

Real Men: Wear Armored greatcoats/trench coats
Real Roleplayers: Wear 4/2 Kevlar vests under normal clothes
Loonies: Wear a loincloth
Munchkins: Wear a plasma shield generator incorporated into their
Cyberzombie, full borg conversion bodies.

Real Men: Use an AK-97 Assault rifle
Real Roleplayers: Use an Ares predator or Colt Manhunter
Loonies: Use a forehead mounted Mr.Stud implant (ripped off from CP2020)
Munchkins: Use an orbital laser strike for backing up their man portable
railgun with underslung Panther Assault cannon.

Real Men: Work as Ares or Novatech company men.
Real Roleplayers: Work as private detectives
Loonies: Work as Social workers in the Redmond Barrens
Munchkins: Own Ares and Renraku

Uhm,... I'm running out of ideas, anyone feel like adding to this?
Message no. 2
From: SteveG@***********.co.za (Steve Garrard)
Subject: Real Men, Real Role Players..
Date: Mon, 21 Oct 2002 14:01:09 +0200
> Shannon Buys wrote:
>
> Time to do a SR real men, real roleplayers list. Add anything
> you think is good.
>
> Real Men: Play Street Samurai
> Real Roleplayers: Play deckers or faces
> Loonies: Play disguised Orc Humanis Policlub members
> Munchkins: Play Adept/Street Samurai mercenary heavy weapons
> specialists who own their own arm manufacturers that compete
> with Ares.
>
> Real Men: Wear Armored greatcoats/trench coats
> Real Roleplayers: Wear 4/2 Kevlar vests under normal clothes
> Loonies: Wear a loincloth
> Munchkins: Wear a plasma shield generator incorporated into
> their Cyberzombie, full borg conversion bodies.
>
> Real Men: Use an AK-97 Assault rifle
> Real Roleplayers: Use an Ares predator or Colt Manhunter
> Loonies: Use a forehead mounted Mr.Stud implant (ripped off
> from CP2020)
> Munchkins: Use an orbital laser strike for backing up their
> man portable railgun with underslung Panther Assault cannon.
>
> Real Men: Work as Ares or Novatech company men.
> Real Roleplayers: Work as private detectives
> Loonies: Work as Social workers in the Redmond Barrens
> Munchkins: Own Ares and Renraku
>
> Uhm,... I'm running out of ideas, anyone feel like adding to this?
>

Off the top of my head:

Real Men: Flee only when death seems certain
Real Roleplayers: Lay down a suppresing fire and fall back to the exit
Loonies: Grab the nearest party-member for cover and rush the enemy
Munchkins: Distract the enemy with their 18D Derringer Pocket Cannon while
warming up the Interdimensional Phase Shifter


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Message no. 3
From: Christian@********.org (Christian Casavant)
Subject: Real Men, Real Role Players..
Date: Mon, 21 Oct 2002 12:26:52 +0000 (GMT)
Real Men: Only use earth-tone coloured dice
Real Roleplayers: Have ten thousand dice is a special bag
Loonies: Spin dice like tops and wait for the result.
Munchkins: Constantly re-roll and save criticals for future use.
Message no. 4
From: sf_fuller@********.com.au (Simon & Fiona)
Subject: Real Men, Real Role Players..
Date: Mon, 21 Oct 2002 23:46:07 +1000
----- Original Message -----
From: Shannon Buys <Shannon@*****.co.za>
To: Dumpshock list <shadowrn@*********.com>
Sent: Monday, October 21, 2002 6:44 PM
Subject: Real Men, Real Role Players..


> Real Men: Play Street Samurai
> Real Roleplayers: Play deckers or faces
> Loonies: Play disguised Orc Humanis Policlub members
> Munchkins: Play Adept/Street Samurai mercenary heavy weapons specialists
who
> own their own arm manufacturers that compete with Ares.
>

I know its a joke, but I think Faces are often just another version of the
Real Man. A pretty, stylish, rich, social butterfly played by a homely night
filler in a baggy T-shirt? It's the same thing as a 7 foot killing machine
run by an asthmatic 11 year old. Yes, I enjoy playing the Face too, My last
character was a prissy bitch when she wasn't "on", that was fun. "I'm not
searching that corpse, what are you, sick?"
Message no. 5
From: airwisp@******************.com (Michael Bobroff)
Subject: Real Men, Real Role Players..
Date: Mon, 21 Oct 2002 09:40:45 -0500
----- Original Message -----
From: "Simon & Fiona" <sf_fuller@********.com.au>


> > Real Men: Play Street Samurai
> > Real Roleplayers: Play deckers or faces
> > Loonies: Play disguised Orc Humanis Policlub members
> > Munchkins: Play Adept/Street Samurai mercenary heavy weapons specialists
> who
> > own their own arm manufacturers that compete with Ares.
> >
>
> I know its a joke, but I think Faces are often just another version of the
> Real Man. A pretty, stylish, rich, social butterfly played by a homely
night
> filler in a baggy T-shirt? It's the same thing as a 7 foot killing machine
> run by an asthmatic 11 year old. Yes, I enjoy playing the Face too, My
last
> character was a prissy bitch when she wasn't "on", that was fun. "I'm
not
> searching that corpse, what are you, sick?"

There is another version of a "Face" that we use here ... the runner with a
contact list so long your arms hurt from carrying the sheet around with you.

Here's another take ...

Real Men: Play Street Samurai
Real Roleplayers: Play whatever they want to, and better than Real Men
Loonies: Play the quirky pcs ... former Humanis Policlub Member turned
Metahuman Rights Activist, but still a member of Alamos 20k
Munchkins: They play the characters with the min/maxxed stats ...
Message no. 6
From: Gurth@******.nl (Gurth)
Subject: Real Men, Real Role Players..
Date: Mon, 21 Oct 2002 10:50:49 +0200
According to Shannon Buys, on Mon, 21 Oct 2002 the word on the street was...

> Time to do a SR real men, real roleplayers list. Add anything you think
> is good.

Have you checked out http://www.firedrake.org/roger/rpg/munchkins.html?
This has an SR section.

> Uhm,... I'm running out of ideas, anyone feel like adding to this?

I could re-post the ones I saved from this list _way_ back when, but I'm
not sure they're not in the above file already.

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Message no. 7
From: powbr323@*******.otago.ac.nz (Bryan Pow)
Subject: Real Men, Real Role Players..
Date: Tue, 22 Oct 2002 11:56:20 +1300
Real Men: Prefer Extractions and Wetwork
Real Roleplayers: Prefer Body-guarding Metahuman Rights activists
Loonies: Prefer inciting gang wars between the Clown Patrol and the
Spikes
Munchkins: Prefer astral quests where the find Buttercups true name.

Real Men: Have Armourers and Weapons dealers as contacts
Real Roleplayers: Have Barmen and Cops as contacts
Loonies: Have hand puppets as contacts
Munchkins: Have Lofwyr and Damien Knight as contacts

Real Men: Use Manabolt
Real Roleplayers: Use Thunderclap
Loonies: Use Drekball
Munchkins: Use Control Great Dragon

Real Men: Use EX-Explosive Ammo
Real Roleplayers use Gel-rounds
Loonies: Use NERF rockets
Munchins: Use Vorpal-APDS-AV-EX-Explosive ammo

--
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For it is the sound of the truth untold




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Message no. 8
From: zebulingod@*****.com (Zebulin Magby)
Subject: Real Men, Real Role Players..
Date: Mon, 21 Oct 2002 16:48:44 -0700
"Bryan Pow" <powbr323@*******.otago.ac.nz> wrote:

>
> Real Men: Use EX-Explosive Ammo
> Real Roleplayers use Gel-rounds
> Loonies: Use NERF rockets
> Munchins: Use Vorpal-APDS-AV-EX-Explosive ammo
>

Now really, what kind of damage do you think that would do? (Aside from the
whole insta-deathT from the Vorpal part.)

Ewwww....

*egmg*

Zebulin
Message no. 9
From: anders@**********.com (Anders Swenson)
Subject: Real Men, Real Role Players..
Date: Mon, 21 Oct 2002 16:48:50 -0700
On Mon, 21 Oct 2002 16:48:44 -0700
"Zebulin Magby" <zebulingod@*****.com> wrote:
> "Bryan Pow" <powbr323@*******.otago.ac.nz> wrote:
>
> >
> > Real Men: Use EX-Explosive Ammo
> > Real Roleplayers use Gel-rounds
> > Loonies: Use NERF rockets
> > Munchins: Use Vorpal-APDS-AV-EX-Explosive ammo
> >
>
> Now really, what kind of damage do you think that would do? (Aside
> from the
> whole insta-deathT from the Vorpal part.)
[snip gut reaction]
> Zebulin
>

It's very clear to me, that's what gives you the most plusses!
--Anders
Message no. 10
From: lunatec@*****.com (Danyeal De La Luna)
Subject: Real Men, Real Role Players..
Date: Mon, 21 Oct 2002 19:05:33 -0500
<snip> > > Real Men: Use EX-Explosive Ammo
> > > Real Roleplayers use Gel-rounds
> > > Loonies: Use NERF rockets
> > > Munchins: Use Vorpal-APDS-AV-EX-Explosive ammo
> > >
> >
> > Now really, what kind of damage do you think that would do? (Aside
> > from the
> > whole insta-deathT from the Vorpal part.)
> [snip gut reaction]
> > Zebulin
> >
>
> It's very clear to me, that's what gives you the most plusses!
> --Anders
>

I counter with my heavy security armour of negating stupidity,

I belive that will also give my team like 50 karma!

Lunatec
Message no. 11
From: iridios@********.net (Iridios)
Subject: Real Men, Real Role Players..
Date: Mon, 21 Oct 2002 19:55:23 -0400
Shannon Buys wrote:
>
> Time to do a SR real men, real roleplayers list. Add anything you think is
> good.
>
> Real Men: Play Street Samurai
> Real Roleplayers: Play deckers or faces
> Loonies: Play disguised Orc Humanis Policlub members

Is that really so loony? Well maybe yes, but I once did a rough
workup of an NPC who was an ork with the human looking edge, adopted
and raised as a human by his racist parents (who did not know that he
was truly ork) and joined the local anti-meta policlub. After a few
years (according to the history I did up) he learned that he was
actually an ork and was torn between his reality and his ideology.
Pity I never got to use him..... Yet.

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Message no. 12
From: sf_fuller@********.com.au (Simon & Fiona)
Subject: Real Men, Real Role Players..
Date: Tue, 22 Oct 2002 11:05:30 +1000
----- Original Message -----
From: Michael Bobroff <airwisp@******************.com>
To: Shadowrun Discussion <shadowrn@*****.dumpshock.com>
Sent: Tuesday, October 22, 2002 12:40 AM
Subject: Re: Real Men, Real Role Players..



>
> There is another version of a "Face" that we use here ... the runner with
a
> contact list so long your arms hurt from carrying the sheet around with
you.
>

Basically a Fixer, then? I never considered having a fixer/runner as a PC
before.
Message no. 13
From: ShadowRN@********.demon.co.uk (Paul J. Adam)
Subject: Real Men, Real Role Players..
Date: Sun, 27 Oct 2002 07:33:23 +0000
In message <BFEDKADNKHPBJAHDDBGCEEIJCEAA.Shannon@*****.co.za>, Shannon
Buys <Shannon@*****.co.za> writes
>Time to do a SR real men, real roleplayers list. Add anything you think
is
>good.

Favourite Character Type
The Role-Player: Gang member, reporter, detective
The Real Man(TM): Mercenary, samurai, physical adept
The Munchkin: Lofwyr the Great Dragon, Damien Knight, God
The Lunatic: Rockers, escaped mental patients, Barney the Purple
Dinosaur

Favourite Weapon
The Role-Player: Hold-out pistols, knives, tasers, no weapon at all
The Real Man(TM): Pump-action shotguns, suppressed submachineguns,
Savalette Guardians, combat axes
The Munchkin: A modified hold-out pistol firing belt-fed assault cannon
ammo at full-auto with no recoil penalty, with underbarrel nuclear
missile launcher and monofilament whip (total concealability 12)
The Lunatic: Rubber chickens, chainsaws and an Ares Squirt loaded with
LSD

Favourite Cyberware
The Role-Player: Cranial cyberdecks, headware memory, cortex bombs,
fingertip compartments
The Real Man(TM): Cyberspurs, wired reflexes, smartgun links, cybereyes
The Munchkin: A full-body Borg conversion, Move-By-Wire IV, and 30
points of hardened armour.
The Lunatic: A "Mr Studd" from CP2020... adapted to a forehead mount

Typical Line
The Role-Player: "This doesn't look good... I think we should bail."
The Real Man(TM): "Fall back! I'll lay cover fire!"
The Munchkin: "Don't worry. If Aztechnology give us trouble, I'll just
buy them out and take them over."
The Lunatic: "You know, you dragons think you're sooooo clever just
because you're bigger than us and can breathe fire..."

Favourite Spells
The Role-Player: Analyse Truth, Detect Guns, Clairvoyance
The Real Man(TM): Mana Bolt, Fireball, Mindprobe
The Munchkin: Create Platinum Credstick, Shapechange Into Great Dragon,
Summon and Bind Cthulhu
The Lunatic: Shapechange Into Invisible Pink Unicorn, Summon and Taunt
Cthulhu, Turn Self To Goo

Style of Dress
The Role-Player: Worn trenchcoats, down-at-heel shoes, stubble
The Real Man(TM): Combat fatigues or leather jeans, mirror shades
The Munchkin: Armani suit, with concealed military-grade armour
The Lunatic: Bathing costumes, fishnet stockings, anything sequinned,
musical underpants

Negotiating Style
The Role-Player: "Of course, we checked up on *you* in the meantime...
does your Site Security Officer, Major Williams, know about this little
discussion? Would you like her to? Then please, I'm sure we can forget
your name and you'll come to see things our way."
The Real Man(TM): "Why should you listen to me? Because I'm holding a
thermal detonator..."
The Munchkin: "Oh, and say hello to Damien Knight for me when you see
him. Damien and I, we're like that we are, best mates..."
The Lunatic: "If you don't agree to pay us what we want, I'm going to
scream and scream and scream until I'm sick, and then I'll hold my
breath until I turn blue and die!"

Most Likely to Say
The Role-Player: "I call my contact and ask her what she knows"
The Real Man(TM): <CLICK> "Go on... make my day..."
The Munchkin: "But my last GM said it was okay..."
The Lunatic: "BAD TRIP! BAD TRIP! BAD TRIP!" (while banging head on
wall)

Least Likely to Say:
The Role-Player: "Just because you're the GM doesn't mean you're in
charge!"
The Real Man(TM): "Actually, I don't think the violent approach is
appropriate here."
The Munchkin: "Well, if you say it doesn't suit your game I guess I
can't do it..."
The Lunatic: "My character sits quietly and listens..."

Character Background
The Role-Player: 20 pages of meticulous detail
The Real Man(TM): Descriptions of Special Forces training, then four
years in the military "assigned to miscellaneous duties" before
retirement due to "mistaken attempt to permanently separate individual
from service".
The Munchkin: "My mother runs Aztechnology and my father owns Ares. And
I'm just running the shadows for fun because I get given Renraku when I
reach 21, but it's held in a trust fund until then."
The Lunatic: "Who am I? Where am I? How did I get here? Who are you?"

Meeting the Fixer
The Role-Player: "I walk in, calm and assured, looking like I belong. I
sit and wait... my fixer will either join me, or give me a waveoff."
The Real Man(TM): "I throw in a concussion grenade and wait for my fixer
to stagger out."
The Munchkin: "I use a Control Fixer spell to make him say "Here! Take
ten times as much money as we agreed, even though you didn't do the
job!""
The Lunatic: "I walk into the bar and shout "WE'RE THE TEAM WHO NAILED
ARES LAST WEEK AND YAMAETSU THE WEEK BEFORE THAT! IS OUR FIXER HERE?
WE'VE GOT ALL THE PAYDATA READY!""

Character Personal Life:
The Role-Player: Roleplays the character's complex emotional problems
The Real Man(TM): Roleplays the character's fixation with a pneumatic
blonde simsense starlet
The Munchkin: "I call my girlfriend. She's a blonde simsense starlet
with loads of money and really, really big..."
The Lunatic: "I call my girlfriend. Flossie? Flossie? Bless your
beautiful white fleece, Flossie, you're the most lovely sheep in
Seattle..."

Character Death Scene
The Role-Player: Shot dead by a sniper while leaving his coffin hotel,
reason and motive unknown
The Real Man(TM): Last seen holding off a Dragon with pistol fire so his
teammates could escape. Listed as "missing", not "dead".
The Munchkin: Vapourised when the nuclear hand grenade he was building
prematurely detonated. Insists he can be resurrected as his identical
clone-brother.
The Lunatic: Assassinated by his own teammates: electrocuted when trying
to deck into a system through a power socket: shot while resisting
arrest (for jaywalking)

Relationships With The Police
The Role-Player: Has lengthy, Chandleresque interviews that end with the
police saying things like "You can walk, for now. But don't walk far."
The Real Man(TM): Subcontracts to rescue SWAT teams that get themselves
in trouble. Spends most of his time on bail for firearms offences.
The Munchkin: His brother is Chief of Police for that city. Set a run in
Denver, and he has an uncle who is Chief there. He has a large family
and all of them are cops this week. Last week they were all in corporate
security: they get around a lot.
The Lunatic: Headbutts police cars for a dare, gives policemen wedgies,
says "If you're so smart how come you're just a cop?"

Bribing People
The Role-Player: "Three pieces of ID? Well, I have two pictures of
Garraty and one of Reagan here..."
The Real Man(TM): "I can bribe you with gold or pay you in lead. Which
would you prefer?"
The Munchkin: "I roll my Bribery skill. Eighty-six successes! *He* gives
me all *his* money and forgets he ever saw me."
The Lunatic: "Go on, officer. Forget you ever saw me shoot your partner,
and you can have this nice candy bar."

Vehicles
The Role-Player: A battered Jackrabbit, an anonymous Americar, or a
worn-out pair of shoes
The Real Man(TM): Anything by Harley-Davidson, especially if it mounts
guns
The Munchkin: A GMC Banshee that looks exactly like a Jackrabbit and
gets three hundred miles to the gallon.
The Lunatic: A motor scooter covered in pink fluff, a VW Beetle called
"Herbie", a rocket-propelled skateboard

Favourite Stories to Base Shadowruns On
The Role-Player: Anything by Raymond Chandler or H. P. Lovecraft
The Real Man(TM): Aliens, Predator, Die Hard, and anything directed by
John Woo
The Munchkin: Anything by Lovecraft ("Go on, Cthulhu. Make my day.")
The Lunatic: Godzilla and Rodan Meet Mothra. Army of Darkness. Magic
Roundabout - The Movie

--
Paul J. Adam
Message no. 14
From: robertennew@*****.com.au (Robert Ennew)
Subject: Real Men, Real Role Players..
Date: Mon, 28 Oct 2002 16:42:52 +1100 (EST)
I'm most probabely a "real man" & "lunatic" cross,( I
definately avoid the sheep girlfriend "fluffy", IMHO
sheep girlfriends are ussually only reserved for
N.........er's ;)

(GZ)

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Message no. 15
From: lunatec@*****.com (Danyeal De La Luna)
Subject: Real Men, Real Role Players..
Date: Mon, 28 Oct 2002 09:42:30 -0600
> I'm most probabely a "real man" & "lunatic" cross,( I
> definately avoid the sheep girlfriend "fluffy", IMHO
> sheep girlfriends are ussually only reserved for
> N.........er's ;)
>
> (GZ)
>

New Zealanders or North Dakotans?

Lunatec
Message no. 16
From: justin@******.net (Justin Bell)
Subject: Real Men, Real Role Players..
Date: Mon, 28 Oct 2002 10:37:37 -0500
Danyeal De La Luna said the following on 10/28/2002 10:42 AM:

> >I'm most probabely a "real man" & "lunatic" cross,( I
> >definately avoid the sheep girlfriend "fluffy", IMHO
> >sheep girlfriends are ussually only reserved for
> >N.........er's ;)
> >
> >(GZ)
> >
>
>
> New Zealanders or North Dakotans?

yes
Message no. 17
From: lunatec@*****.com (Danyeal De La Luna)
Subject: Real Men, Real Role Players..
Date: Mon, 28 Oct 2002 09:46:07 -0600
LOL

Danyeal R. De La Luna
9873 Kirkwood Lane N
Maple Grove, MN, 55369
(763)315-4593
ahz@*****.com


> -----Original Message-----
> From: shadowrn-bounces@*****.dumpshock.com
> [mailto:shadowrn-bounces@*****.dumpshock.com]On Behalf Of Justin Bell
> Sent: Monday, October 28, 2002 9:38 AM
> To: Shadowrun Discussion
> Subject: Re: Real Men, Real Role Players..
>
>
>
>
> Danyeal De La Luna said the following on 10/28/2002 10:42 AM:
>
> > >I'm most probabely a "real man" & "lunatic" cross,(
I
> > >definately avoid the sheep girlfriend "fluffy", IMHO
> > >sheep girlfriends are ussually only reserved for
> > >N.........er's ;)
> > >
> > >(GZ)
> > >
> >
> >
> > New Zealanders or North Dakotans?
>
> yes
>
>
Message no. 18
From: loneeagle@********.co.uk (Lone Eagle)
Subject: Real Men, Real Role Players..
Date: Mon, 28 Oct 2002 19:37:39 +0000
At 04:42 PM 28/10/2002 +1100, GZ wrote:
>I'm most probabely a "real man" & "lunatic" cross,( I
>definately avoid the sheep girlfriend "fluffy", IMHO
>sheep girlfriends are ussually only reserved for
>N.........er's ;)

Ah, all the kiwis I know say it's the other way round ;-)


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Message no. 19
From: justin@******.net (Justin Bell)
Subject: Real Men, Real Role Players..
Date: Mon, 28 Oct 2002 14:47:48 -0500
Lone Eagle said the following on 10/28/2002 2:37 PM:

> At 04:42 PM 28/10/2002 +1100, GZ wrote:
>
> > I'm most probabely a "real man" & "lunatic" cross,( I
> > definately avoid the sheep girlfriend "fluffy", IMHO
> > sheep girlfriends are ussually only reserved for
> > N.........er's ;)
>
>
> Ah, all the kiwis I know say it's the other way round ;-)

with 64 sheep to each person, what do you think the real answer is?
Message no. 20
From: docwagon101@*****.com (Rand Ratinac)
Subject: Real Men, Real Role Players..
Date: Tue, 29 Oct 2002 01:36:20 +0000 (GMT)
> >I'm most probabely a "real man" & "lunatic"
cross,(I definately avoid the sheep girlfriend
"fluffy", IMHO sheep girlfriends are ussually only
reserved for N.........er's ;)
>
> Ah, all the kiwis I know say it's the other way
round ;-)
> Lone Eagle

1. You'd trust the word of a nation of people who
can't pronounce their "i"s??

2. Saying "I know you are, but what am I?" or words to
that effect is the resort of people without a better
comeback.

Heh. :)

====Doc'
(aka Mr. Freaky Big, Super-Dynamic Troll of Tomorrow, aka Doc'booner, aka Doc' Vader)

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Message no. 21
From: psycho@*********.co.nz (Keith Duthie)
Subject: Real Men, Real Role Players..
Date: Tue, 29 Oct 2002 15:55:50 +1300 (NZDT)
On Tue, 29 Oct 2002, Rand Ratinac wrote:

> 1. You'd trust the word of a nation of people who
> can't pronounce their "i"s??

Well, I certainly wouldn't. See everyone? Even Doc thinks nobody should
trust Aussies...

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Message no. 22
From: psycho@*********.co.nz (Keith Duthie)
Subject: Real Men, Real Role Players..
Date: Tue, 29 Oct 2002 15:56:49 +1300 (NZDT)
On Mon, 28 Oct 2002, Justin Bell wrote:

> with 64 sheep to each person, what do you think the real answer is?

"Roast mutton"?

Note that New Zealanders aren't the ones obsessing over sheep on this
list. ;-)

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Message no. 23
From: lunatec@*****.com (Danyeal De La Luna)
Subject: Real Men, Real Role Players..
Date: Mon, 28 Oct 2002 21:49:30 -0600
> > >I'm most probabely a "real man" & "lunatic"
> cross,(I definately avoid the sheep girlfriend
> "fluffy", IMHO sheep girlfriends are ussually only
> reserved for N.........er's ;)
> >
> > Ah, all the kiwis I know say it's the other way
> round ;-)
> > Lone Eagle
>
> 1. You'd trust the word of a nation of people who
> can't pronounce their "i"s??
>
> 2. Saying "I know you are, but what am I?" or words to
> that effect is the resort of people without a better
> comeback.
>

Ahhh...it's so nice to see that other nations have such interesting
rivalries, and not just us Americans. BTW, any Canuks on the list?

Lunatec
Message no. 24
From: korishinzo@*****.com (Ice Heart)
Subject: Real Men, Real Role Players..
Date: Mon, 28 Oct 2002 20:14:44 -0800 (PST)
--- Rand Ratinac <docwagon101@*****.com> wrote:
> > >I'm most probabely a "real man" & "lunatic"
> cross,(I definately avoid the sheep girlfriend
> "fluffy", IMHO sheep girlfriends are ussually only
> reserved for N.........er's ;)
> >
> > Ah, all the kiwis I know say it's the other way
> round ;-)
> > Lone Eagle
>
> 1. You'd trust the word of a nation of people who
> can't pronounce their "i"s??
>
> 2. Saying "I know you are, but what am I?" or words
> to
> that effect is the resort of people without a better
> comeback.

I have always preferred the much more mature,
intellectual verse...

"I'm rubber, you're glue; anything you say bounces off
me and sticks to you."

Also useful for those Loonies out there who don't have
a good comeback line for Lofwyr when he's being his
usual pedantic self in preparation to frag some
upstart runners. I cannot imagine a GM keeping a
perfectly straight face if your Coyote shaman delivers
the line well... ;D

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are judging the sheep of any country for their
lifestyle choices *ducks, grinning*

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Message no. 25
From: justin@******.net (Justin Bell)
Subject: Real Men, Real Role Players..
Date: Mon, 28 Oct 2002 23:58:05 -0500
At 03:56 PM 10/29/2002 +1300, Keith Duthie wrote:
>On Mon, 28 Oct 2002, Justin Bell wrote:
>
> > with 64 sheep to each person, what do you think the real answer is?
>
>"Roast mutton"?
>
>Note that New Zealanders aren't the ones obsessing over sheep on this
>list. ;-)

nope, they're too busy making velcro gloves



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Message no. 26
From: justin@******.net (Justin Bell)
Subject: Real Men, Real Role Players..
Date: Tue, 29 Oct 2002 00:00:14 -0500
At 01:36 AM 10/29/2002 +0000, Rand Ratinac wrote:

>1. You'd trust the word of a nation of people who
>can't pronounce their "i"s??

yeah. learning to count must be a lot of fun, after five you get sex

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Message no. 27
From: docwagon101@*****.com (Rand Ratinac)
Subject: Real Men, Real Role Players..
Date: Tue, 29 Oct 2002 06:06:53 +0000 (GMT)
> >1. You'd trust the word of a nation of people who
can't pronounce their "i"s??
>
> yeah. learning to count must be a lot of fun, after
five you get sex
> Justin Bell

*lol*

Yeah, except if that were true, there would be a hell
of a lot more New Zealanders. As it stands, their
population is only kept in check by the fact that they
say "sux", not "sex". ;)

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Message no. 28
From: docwagon101@*****.com (Rand Ratinac)
Subject: Real Men, Real Role Players..
Date: Tue, 29 Oct 2002 06:09:10 +0000 (GMT)
> > 1. You'd trust the word of a nation of people who
can't pronounce their "i"s??
>
> Well, I certainly wouldn't. See everyone? Even Doc
thinks nobody should trust Aussies...

But, Keith - if we mispronounce the letter i, so do
every other English-speaking country in the
world...except New Zealand. Are you claiming that New
Zealanders are the only ones who pronounce the letter
i correctly, and thus are the only trustworthy
English-speaking people in the world? :)

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Message no. 29
From: psycho@*********.co.nz (Keith Duthie)
Subject: Real Men, Real Role Players..
Date: Tue, 29 Oct 2002 23:18:36 +1300 (NZDT)
On Tue, 29 Oct 2002, Rand Ratinac wrote:

> But, Keith - if we mispronounce the letter i, so do
> every other English-speaking country in the
> world...except New Zealand. Are you claiming that New
> Zealanders are the only ones who pronounce the letter
> i correctly, and thus are the only trustworthy
> English-speaking people in the world? :)

I never said New Zealanders were trustworthy.

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Message no. 30
From: psycho@*********.co.nz (Keith Duthie)
Subject: Real Men, Real Role Players..
Date: Tue, 29 Oct 2002 23:20:49 +1300 (NZDT)
On Mon, 28 Oct 2002, Justin Bell wrote:

> nope, they're too busy making velcro gloves

Well, how can I possibly argue with someone whose mind immediately goes to
velcro gloves when the topic turns to sheep?
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Message no. 31
From: Shannon@*****.co.za (Shannon Buys)
Subject: Real Men, Real Role Players..
Date: Tue, 29 Oct 2002 12:24:36 +0200
On Tue, 29 Oct 2002, Rand Ratinac wrote:

> But, Keith - if we mispronounce the letter i, so do
> every other English-speaking country in the
> world...except New Zealand. Are you claiming that New
> Zealanders are the only ones who pronounce the letter
> i correctly, and thus are the only trustworthy
> English-speaking people in the world? :)

Keith wrote:
I never said New Zealanders were trustworthy.

------------------------------------------------
Geez guys, just out of interest, how the heck did a humourous topic on
different types of roleplayers end up as a discussion of various nations
percieved sexual practices and their trustworthyness as a whole. Just
wondering...

Plastic Rat
~ Quick guys! He's got the possum, shoot him!
Message no. 32
From: docwagon101@*****.com (Rand Ratinac)
Subject: Real Men, Real Role Players..
Date: Tue, 29 Oct 2002 11:54:09 +0000 (GMT)
> > But, Keith - if we mispronounce the letter i, so
do every other English-speaking country in the
world...except New Zealand. Are you claiming that New
Zealanders are the only ones who pronounce the letter
i correctly, and thus are the only trustworthy
English-speaking people in the world? :)
>
> I never said New Zealanders were trustworthy.

Oh - so that must mean that Australians and the rest
of the English-speaking nations are trustworthy, and
the New Zealanders are not - which was my original
contention.

;)

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Message no. 33
From: justin@******.net (Justin Bell)
Subject: Real Men, Real Role Players..
Date: Tue, 29 Oct 2002 09:12:00 -0500
Rand Ratinac said the following on 10/29/2002 1:06 AM:

> >>1. You'd trust the word of a nation of people who
>
> can't pronounce their "i"s??
>
> >yeah. learning to count must be a lot of fun, after
>
> five you get sex
>
> >Justin Bell
>
>
> *lol*
>
> Yeah, except if that were true, there would be a hell
> of a lot more New Zealanders. As it stands, their
> population is only kept in check by the fact that they
> say "sux", not "sex". ;)


We could bring this around to the "sex" not being with people.....
Message no. 34
From: justin@******.net (Justin Bell)
Subject: Real Men, Real Role Players..
Date: Tue, 29 Oct 2002 09:12:48 -0500
Rand Ratinac said the following on 10/29/2002 1:09 AM:

> >>1. You'd trust the word of a nation of people who
>
> can't pronounce their "i"s??
>
> >Well, I certainly wouldn't. See everyone? Even Doc
>
> thinks nobody should trust Aussies...
>
> But, Keith - if we mispronounce the letter i, so do
> every other English-speaking country in the
> world...except New Zealand. Are you claiming that New
> Zealanders are the only ones who pronounce the letter
> i correctly, and thus are the only trustworthy
> English-speaking people in the world? :)

Nah, South Africans don't really pronounce i correctly all the time
Message no. 35
From: Shannon@*****.co.za (Shannon Buys)
Subject: Real Men, Real Role Players..
Date: Tue, 29 Oct 2002 16:27:36 +0200
Justin bell wrote:
Nah, South Africans don't really pronounce i correctly all the time

------------------------
Right, first you guys hijack my thread, then you start ripping off South
Africans in it as well, IS THERE NO JUSTICE!! (Not that South Africans
aren't a bunch of wankers) ;)
Message no. 36
From: justin@******.net (Justin Bell)
Subject: Real Men, Real Role Players..
Date: Tue, 29 Oct 2002 09:26:43 -0500
Shannon Buys said the following on 10/29/2002 5:24 AM:

> On Tue, 29 Oct 2002, Rand Ratinac wrote:
>
>
> >But, Keith - if we mispronounce the letter i, so do
> >every other English-speaking country in the
> >world...except New Zealand. Are you claiming that New
> >Zealanders are the only ones who pronounce the letter
> >i correctly, and thus are the only trustworthy
> >English-speaking people in the world? :)
>
>
> Keith wrote:
> I never said New Zealanders were trustworthy.
>
> ------------------------------------------------
> Geez guys, just out of interest, how the heck did a humourous topic on
> different types of roleplayers end up as a discussion of various nations
> percieved sexual practices and their trustworthyness as a whole. Just
> wondering...

oh, the following post did it
---
>I'm most probabely a "real man" & "lunatic" cross,( I
>> definately avoid the sheep girlfriend "fluffy", IMHO
>> sheep girlfriends are ussually only reserved for
>> N.........er's ;)
>>
>> (GZ)
>>


New Zealanders or North Dakotans?
----
Message no. 37
From: moe@*******.com (Allen Versfeld)
Subject: Real Men, Real Role Players..
Date: Tue, 29 Oct 2002 16:41:32 +0200
Shannon Buys wrote:
> Justin bell wrote:
> Nah, South Africans don't really pronounce i correctly all the time
>
> ------------------------
> Right, first you guys hijack my thread, then you start ripping off South
> Africans in it as well, IS THERE NO JUSTICE!! (Not that South Africans
> aren't a bunch of wankers) ;)
>

And what logical conclusion may be drawn about our friend Shannon@*****.co.za ?

Allen Versfeld
South African Wanker
Message no. 38
From: psycho@*********.co.nz (Keith Duthie)
Subject: Real Men, Real Role Players..
Date: Wed, 30 Oct 2002 05:15:55 +1300 (NZDT)
On Tue, 29 Oct 2002, Rand Ratinac wrote:

> > I never said New Zealanders were trustworthy.
>
> Oh - so that must mean that Australians and the rest
> of the English-speaking nations are trustworthy, and
> the New Zealanders are not - which was my original
> contention.

Well, I certainly can't argue with your logic.

I'd have to find it before I could argue with it ;-)
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Message no. 39
From: lunatec@*****.com (Danyeal De La Luna)
Subject: Real Men, Real Role Players..
Date: Tue, 29 Oct 2002 10:37:41 -0600
<SNIP> {recap of past: Roo's vs. Kiwi's ; Topic: Sexual practices in
isolated societies}

How did we get here? My fault? Sorry chummers.

Umm...I hate to bring this into the discussion, but what about that Aussie
rules football player with the wandering finger? Where was he from?
I think sheep are the furthest things from what you need to be fearing.
What scares me is how long it took for anyone to really complain about that
chap.


Final score:

Aussies: 2
NZ: 3
U.S.: 1.2
South Africa: 1
Brits: 0


Lunatec
Message no. 40
From: anders@**********.com (Anders Swenson)
Subject: Real Men, Real Role Players..
Date: Tue, 29 Oct 2002 08:32:22 -0800
Yeah, aren't there more Real Men jokes out there?
BTW, the classic order of Real Men, Roleplayers, Loonies and Munchkins
is important to maintain, the Munchkins are supposed to be the punch
line.
Of course, there could be a fifth line for New Zealanders...
--Anders
Message no. 41
From: loneeagle@********.co.uk (Lone Eagle)
Subject: Real Men, Real Role Players..
Date: Tue, 29 Oct 2002 21:00:19 +0000
At 11:54 AM 29/10/2002 +0000, Doc' wrote:
> > > But, Keith - if we mispronounce the letter i, so
>do every other English-speaking country in the
>world...except New Zealand. Are you claiming that New
>Zealanders are the only ones who pronounce the letter
>i correctly, and thus are the only trustworthy
>English-speaking people in the world? :)
> >
> > I never said New Zealanders were trustworthy.
>
>Oh - so that must mean that Australians and the rest
>of the English-speaking nations are trustworthy, and
>the New Zealanders are not - which was my original
>contention.

Not wishing to sound like a true Prisoner Of Mother England but...
Who could possibly trust the population of a nation founded by criminals
:-)

(And yes that goes for the colonies in Virginia etc as well ;-) )

Ducks to avoid flying cans of Amber Gnat's p!ss and wadges of tobacco.
;-)


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Message no. 42
From: lunatec@*****.com (Danyeal De La Luna)
Subject: Real Men, Real Role Players..
Date: Tue, 29 Oct 2002 15:42:05 -0600
>
> Not wishing to sound like a true Prisoner Of Mother England but...
> Who could possibly trust the population of a nation founded by criminals
> :-)
>
> (And yes that goes for the colonies in Virginia etc as well ;-) )
>
> Ducks to avoid flying cans of Amber Gnat's p!ss and wadges of tobacco.
> ;-)
>
>
> --
> Lone Eagle

You DO NOT want to start with this! Bloody Poms!

Lunatec
Message no. 43
From: Shannon@*****.co.za (Shannon Buys)
Subject: Real Men, Real Role Players..
Date: Wed, 30 Oct 2002 07:06:44 +0200
Allen Versfeld South African Wanker wrote:

>And what logical conclusion may be drawn about our friend
Shannon@*****.co.za ?

Was there any point that I denied being a South African? I thought most
people on here know. I actually did mean to cover my wanking little ass by
saying that MOST South Africans are wankers, but forgot, oops.

(p.s. No offence actually meant to anyone from the Southern part of Africa,
it was a joke)
Message no. 44
From: korishinzo@*****.com (Ice Heart)
Subject: Real Men, Real Role Players..
Date: Tue, 29 Oct 2002 21:14:39 -0800 (PST)
Real Roleplayers: Ponder the implications of playing a
tormented back woods man, struggling with the
implications of their attraction to sheep (and
additional desire to be a lumberjack).
Real Men (TM): Ponder the implications of sheep sheers
and abstract damage codes; is it time at last for a
more realistic combat system?
Loonies: Ponders...who are we kidding? Baaa-aaa baaa!
Munchkins: Ponders sharing with the group their
experience with sheep, with creative retelling tips
supplied by excesively tattered adult magazine.

ShadowRN-ers: Need to get off the whole sheep-human
thing...unless they are Awakwened sheep...and Sheep
shamans...and...no, that is too horrible to
contemplate. ;)

======Korishinzo
--funny, I was really really enjoying this
thread...until the "ewe!" factor crept in (pun
intended)

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Message no. 45
From: sf_fuller@********.com.au (Simon & Fiona)
Subject: Real Men, Real Role Players..
Date: Wed, 30 Oct 2002 16:30:13 +1100
----- Original Message -----
From: Ice Heart <korishinzo@*****.com>
To: Shadowrun Discussion <shadowrn@*****.dumpshock.com>
Sent: Wednesday, October 30, 2002 4:14 PM
Subject: Re: Real Men, Real Role Players..


Real Men (TM): Shag a sheep
Real Roleplayers: Shag a sheep only when it is vital to the mission at hand,
but they don't enjoy it
Loonies: Shag a sheep but only after the third date
Munchkins: Shag the whole flock, then napalm the lot (or vice versa)
Message no. 46
From: docwagon101@*****.com (Rand Ratinac)
Subject: Real Men, Real Role Players..
Date: Wed, 30 Oct 2002 06:41:09 +0000 (GMT)
> > five you get sex
> >
> > >Justin Bell
> >
> >
> > *lol*
> >
> > Yeah, except if that were true, there would be a
hell of a lot more New Zealanders. As it stands, their
population is only kept in check by the fact that they
say "sux", not "sex". ;)
>
> We could bring this around to the "sex" not being
with people.....

Quite easily, yes - but I always thought that New
Zealanders had enough sheep genes that they could
interbreed anyway. ;)

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Message no. 47
From: docwagon101@*****.com (Rand Ratinac)
Subject: Real Men, Real Role Players..
Date: Wed, 30 Oct 2002 06:42:19 +0000 (GMT)
> > But, Keith - if we mispronounce the letter i, so
do every other English-speaking country in the
world...except New Zealand. Are you claiming that New
Zealanders are the only ones who pronounce the letter
i correctly, and thus are the only trustworthy
English-speaking people in the world? :)
>
> Nah, South Africans don't really pronounce i
correctly all the time

But I wouldn't really call them an "English-speaking"
nation. English is a second language to them. (Isn't it?)

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Message no. 48
From: docwagon101@*****.com (Rand Ratinac)
Subject: Real Men, Real Role Players..
Date: Wed, 30 Oct 2002 06:51:39 +0000 (GMT)
<snipt!(TM)>
> Umm...I hate to bring this into the discussion, but
what about that Aussie rules football player with the
wandering finger? Where was he from? I think sheep are
the furthest things from what you need to be fearing.
What scares me is how long it took for anyone to
really complain about that chap.
> Lunatec

Actually, it was Rugby League. His name's John Hopoate
(sp?) - or as we like to call him, the Minister for
Interior Affairs - and, yes...he's a New Zealander. ;)

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Message no. 49
From: Shannon@*****.co.za (Shannon Buys)
Subject: Real Men, Real Role Players..
Date: Wed, 30 Oct 2002 09:00:44 +0200
> Nah, South Africans don't really pronounce i
correctly all the time

Rand Ratinac wrote:

>But I wouldn't really call them an "English-speaking"
>nation. English is a second language to them. (Isn't it?)

What? We're not english speaking? Only the poor backward uneducated
'binnelanders' the rest who went to school should be able to english speak
what sounds just like any rooinek. ;)

Plastic Rat
~ Eiy don't tune me for kak china, Ah's gonna moer you so fast yous gonna
think you is surrounded.
Message no. 50
From: docwagon101@*****.com (Rand Ratinac)
Subject: Real Men, Real Role Players..
Date: Wed, 30 Oct 2002 07:06:56 +0000 (GMT)
> What? We're not english speaking? Only the poor
backward uneducated 'binnelanders' the rest who went
to school should be able to english speak what sounds
just like any rooinek. ;)

*lol*

Maybe I should have said NATIVE English speaking.
Afrikaans IS the primary language on South Africa,
isn't it?

> Plastic Rat
> ~ Eiy don't tune me for kak china, Ah's gonna moer
you so fast yous gonna think you is surrounded.

*lol*

Jeez, that sounds funny. Can I get a translation? :)
Oh, and for "binnelanders" and "rooinek", too? :)

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Message no. 51
From: Shannon@*****.co.za (Shannon Buys)
Subject: Real Men, Real Role Players..
Date: Wed, 30 Oct 2002 09:24:30 +0200
Rand Ratinac wrote:
>Maybe I should have said NATIVE English speaking.
>Afrikaans IS the primary language on South Africa,
>isn't it?

Well, currently I think we have about 20 (not joking) official languages.
Afrikaans is still around, but, IMHO just doesn't hold up to the speed and
flexibility we need for modern tech. (besides, it seems to dry your mouth
out constantly, and I always sound 40 IQ points lower when I speak it.)

> Plastic Rat
> ~ Eiy don't tune me for kak china, Ah's gonna moer
you so fast yous gonna think you is surrounded.

>>Jeez, that sounds funny. Can I get a translation? :)
>>Oh, and for "binnelanders" and "rooinek", too? :)

binnelanders = People living inland, away from the coast, traditionally with
lots of money and no sense ;) They all charge down to the sea like lemmings
every December, where half drown and the rest spend all their money.

"rooinek" = Pommie, brit, came from the boer war when the english got their
necks sunburned to shreds

Last phrase means, "Don't talk shit to me chum, I'll hit you so fast you'll
think you've been surrounded"
Message no. 52
From: moe@*******.com (Allen Versfeld)
Subject: Real Men, Real Role Players..
Date: Wed, 30 Oct 2002 09:23:29 +0200
Shannon Buys wrote:
> Allen Versfeld South African Wanker wrote:
>
>
>>And what logical conclusion may be drawn about our friend
>
> Shannon@*****.co.za ?
>
> Was there any point that I denied being a South African? I thought most
> people on here know. I actually did mean to cover my wanking little ass by
> saying that MOST South Africans are wankers, but forgot, oops.
>
> (p.s. No offence actually meant to anyone from the Southern part of Africa,
> it was a joke)
>
>
>

*grin*

Yes, well, as a proudly South African Wanker, I felt I should do you a
favour, and remind the list that you too can stand tall :)

Sorry, this is a shadowrun list... Proudly Azanian, because not only are we
the only antipodean nation to spawn our own language, but we got our own
feathered serpent AND a saeder krupp space launch facility! woohoo!
Message no. 53
From: moe@*******.com (Allen Versfeld)
Subject: Real Men, Real Role Players..
Date: Wed, 30 Oct 2002 09:37:20 +0200
Rand Ratinac wrote:
>>>But, Keith - if we mispronounce the letter i, so
>>
> do every other English-speaking country in the
> world...except New Zealand. Are you claiming that New
> Zealanders are the only ones who pronounce the letter
> i correctly, and thus are the only trustworthy
> English-speaking people in the world? :)
>
>>Nah, South Africans don't really pronounce i
>
> correctly all the time
>
> But I wouldn't really call them an "English-speaking"
> nation. English is a second language to them. (Isn't it?)

We're pretty diverse, actually... bits of the place were settled by the
british, others by the dutch, and inbetween those two, we had all manner and
description of natives, each with their own officially recognised language

*end of boring lesson*

My first language is English, and I speak Afrikaans poorly. But almost
everybody in the country speaks it - it's a mandatory subject at most levels
of school.

So I would call us an English Speaking nation, but that's just me :)

Now. What happens to dear old .za in shadowrun's timeline? All I can
remember reading is some sort of uprising where we become Azania. Anybody
got any further information?
Message no. 54
From: SteveG@***********.co.za (Steve Garrard)
Subject: Real Men, Real Role Players..
Date: Wed, 30 Oct 2002 10:17:18 +0200
Shannon Buys wrote:
> binnelanders = People living inland, away from the coast,
> traditionally with lots of money and no sense ;) They all
> charge down to the sea like lemmings every December, where
> half drown and the rest spend all their money.

I'm guessing you don't live in Jhb? :)


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Message no. 55
From: docwagon101@*****.com (Rand Ratinac)
Subject: Real Men, Real Role Players..
Date: Wed, 30 Oct 2002 11:17:37 +0000 (GMT)
> Well, currently I think we have about 20 (not
joking) official languages. Afrikaans is still around,
but, IMHO just doesn't hold up to the speed and
flexibility we need for modern tech. (besides, it
seems to dry your mouth out constantly, and I always
sound 40 IQ points lower when I speak it.)

Learn something new every day. :) So how much is
English used over there? And what other languages are
common?

> binnelanders = People living inland, away from the
coast, traditionally with lots of money and no sense
;) They all charge down to the sea like lemmings
every December, where half drown and the rest spend
all their money.

Sound like a good mob to rip off. :)

> "rooinek" = Pommie, brit, came from the boer war
when the english got their necks sunburned to shreds

Ah! The Afrikaans rednecks! :)

> Last phrase means, "Don't talk shit to me chum, I'll
hit you so fast you'll think you've been surrounded"

*lol*

Good stuff. :)

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Message no. 56
From: justin@******.net (Justin Bell)
Subject: Real Men, Real Role Players..
Date: Wed, 30 Oct 2002 09:48:36 -0500
Rand Ratinac said the following on 10/30/2002 1:42 AM:

> >>But, Keith - if we mispronounce the letter i, so
>
> do every other English-speaking country in the
> world...except New Zealand. Are you claiming that New
> Zealanders are the only ones who pronounce the letter
> i correctly, and thus are the only trustworthy
> English-speaking people in the world? :)
>
> >Nah, South Africans don't really pronounce i
>
> correctly all the time
>
> But I wouldn't really call them an "English-speaking"
> nation. English is a second language to them. (Isn't it?)

Nah, they try to speak English as a first language, they are? a British
commonwealth member after all
Message no. 57
From: lunatec@*****.com (Danyeal De La Luna)
Subject: Real Men, Real Role Players..
Date: Wed, 30 Oct 2002 10:18:41 -0600
> <snipt!(TM)>
> > Umm...I hate to bring this into the discussion, but
> what about that Aussie rules football player with the
> wandering finger? Where was he from? I think sheep are
> the furthest things from what you need to be fearing.
> What scares me is how long it took for anyone to
> really complain about that chap.
> > Lunatec
>
> Actually, it was Rugby League. His name's John Hopoate
> (sp?) - or as we like to call him, the Minister for
> Interior Affairs - and, yes...he's a New Zealander. ;)
>
> ====> Doc'
> (aka Mr. Freaky Big, Super-Dynamic Troll of Tomorrow, aka
> Doc'booner, aka Doc' Vader)
>

Well, I may just have to rethink the scoring...hehehehe


Lunatec
Message no. 58
From: powbr323@*******.otago.ac.nz (Bryan Pow)
Subject: Real Men, Real Role Players..
Date: Thu, 31 Oct 2002 15:56:47 +1300 (NZDT)
> Actually, it was Rugby League. His name's John Hopoate
> (sp?) - or as we like to call him, the Minister for
> Interior Affairs - and, yes...he's a New Zealander. ;)

Or- Lord of the Rings, Brown Finger, Sheep Dog (Get in begind!) etc...

Howver he was in Aussie at the time, so probably thought "When in
rome..."
Message no. 59
From: justin@******.net (Justin Bell)
Subject: Real Men, Real Role Players..
Date: Wed, 30 Oct 2002 22:00:59 -0500
At 03:56 PM 10/31/2002 +1300, Bryan Pow wrote:
> > Actually, it was Rugby League. His name's John Hopoate
> > (sp?) - or as we like to call him, the Minister for
> > Interior Affairs - and, yes...he's a New Zealander. ;)
>
>Or- Lord of the Rings, Brown Finger, Sheep Dog (Get in begind!) etc...
>
>Howver he was in Aussie at the time, so probably thought "When in
>rome..."

or was he trying to bring the kiwi culture into Aus via the backdoor...


--
Justin Bell
justin-sig@******.net
Message no. 60
From: korishinzo@*****.com (Ice Heart)
Subject: Real Men, Real Role Players..
Date: Wed, 30 Oct 2002 20:54:17 -0800 (PST)
> >Howver he was in Aussie at the time, so probably
> thought "When in
> >rome..."
>
> or was he trying to bring the kiwi culture into Aus
> via the backdoor...

Okay, we tried humor and sarcasm to kill this
thread...

Guys, it really, really, is not funny anymore.

Can we please talk about something SR related?

I don't know...I'll give you a topic...

Street Samurai, neither a street nor a
samurai...discuss...

(with apologies to Mike Meyers and Linda Richmond)

======Korishinzo
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Message no. 61
From: sf_fuller@********.com.au (Simon & Fiona)
Subject: Real Men, Real Role Players..
Date: Thu, 31 Oct 2002 16:35:22 +1100
----- Original Message -----
From: Ice Heart <korishinzo@*****.com>
To: Shadowrun Discussion <shadowrn@*****.dumpshock.com>
Sent: Thursday, October 31, 2002 3:54 PM
Subject: RE: Real Men, Real Role Players..

In fact, if you think about it, bitumen sounds like a kind of samurai sword.
Message no. 62
From: docwagon101@*****.com (Rand Ratinac)
Subject: Real Men, Real Role Players..
Date: Thu, 31 Oct 2002 05:59:21 +0000 (GMT)
--- Bryan Pow <powbr323@*******.otago.ac.nz> wrote: >
> Actually, it was Rugby League. His name's John
Hopoate (sp?) - or as we like to call him, the
Minister for Interior Affairs - and, yes...he's a New
Zealander. ;)
>
> Or- Lord of the Rings, Brown Finger, Sheep Dog (Get
in begind!) etc...
>
> Howver he was in Aussie at the time, so probably
thought "When in rome..."

More like he wanted to introduce a bit of New Zealand
culture into the game. ;)

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Message no. 63
From: Shannon@*****.co.za (Shannon Buys)
Subject: Real Men, Real Role Players..
Date: Thu, 31 Oct 2002 08:45:33 +0200
Shannon Buys wrote:
> binnelanders = People living inland, away from the coast,
> traditionally with lots of money and no sense ;) They all
> charge down to the sea like lemmings every December, where
> half drown and the rest spend all their money.

Steve Gerhard wrote:

I'm guessing you don't live in Jhb? :)

----------------------------------
Uhm, actually, grew up in East London (city on the coast in SA, not a part
of London UK) I moved to Pretoria 4 years ago, which is about half an hours
drive from JHB and most of my work is in JHB (One of SA's biggest citties)

Plastic Rat
~ If you can't laugh at yourself, who can you laugh at? :)
Message no. 64
From: robertennew@*****.com.au (Robert Ennew)
Subject: Real Men, Real Role Players..
Date: Thu, 31 Oct 2002 18:59:26 +1100 (EST)
--- Lone Eagle <loneeagle@********.co.uk> wrote: > At
04:42 PM 28/10/2002 +1100, GZ wrote:
> >I'm most probabely a "real man" & "lunatic" cross,(
> I
> >definately avoid the sheep girlfriend "fluffy",
> IMHO
> >sheep girlfriends are ussually only reserved for
> >N.........er's ;)
>
> Ah, all the kiwis I know say it's the other way
> round ;-)
>

Well It's obvious you're not an aussie (Or a god damn
unpatriotic, slack jawed pussy,seppo), & as for your
friends their just trying to pass the "Buck" ;)

P.S. (IIRC a male sheep 's called a Buck, get that one
into ya' all you kiwi's & ya' bloody supporters, thats
If you don't already got a sheep, Bah Ram you, LOL)

(GZ)

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Message no. 65
From: SteveG@***********.co.za (Steve Garrard)
Subject: Real Men, Real Role Players..
Date: Thu, 31 Oct 2002 10:04:13 +0200
Shannon Buys wrote:
> Shannon Buys wrote:
> > binnelanders = People living inland, away from the coast,
> > traditionally with lots of money and no sense ;) They all
> charge down
> > to the sea like lemmings every December, where half drown
> and the rest
> > spend all their money.
>
> Steve Garrard wrote:
>
> I'm guessing you don't live in Jhb? :)
>
> ----------------------------------
> Uhm, actually, grew up in East London (city on the coast in
> SA, not a part of London UK) I moved to Pretoria 4 years
> ago, which is about half an hours drive from JHB and most of
> my work is in JHB (One of SA's biggest citties)

Yeah, I know. I'm in Cape Town myself. So you're one of the binnelanders who
come here every Xmas and wreck the place :p


Slayer

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Message no. 66
From: robertennew@*****.com.au (Robert Ennew)
Subject: Real Men, Real Role Players..
Date: Thu, 31 Oct 2002 19:50:20 +1100 (EST)
Before any one says I'm just a stupid Aussie, I don't
know noten' just look at his last post, he called a
male sheep a "Buck" instead of a "Ram",well ya' can
all choke on It still 'cause I'm not takin' It back
now, I'm gonna add to It. Anythin' (male sex) part of
sheep family or related groups of families (biology
etc.) used for breedin' can & Is called a "Buck". Told
to me by a genuine kiwi fruit, I don't know what he
was getting at though, he sure seemed awfully
knowledgable on the subject & looked a little
sheeepish ;)

(GZ)

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Message no. 67
From: robertennew@*****.com.au (Robert Ennew)
Subject: Real Men, Real Role Players..
Date: Thu, 31 Oct 2002 20:24:17 +1100 (EST)
--- Keith Duthie <psycho@*********.co.nz> wrote: > On
Tue, 29 Oct 2002, Rand Ratinac wrote:
>
> > 1. You'd trust the word of a nation of people who
> > can't pronounce their "i"s??
>
> Well, I certainly wouldn't. See everyone? Even Doc
> thinks nobody should
> trust Aussies...
>
> --
> Just because it isn't nice doesn't make it any less
> a miracle.
> http://users.albatross.co.nz/~psycho/ O-
> -><-
>
"I" choose not to, doesn't me "I" can't or won't,
e.g. I think that If you give the poor sheep a
breather for a while,they might just even catch up
with your horses (the only reason why the fraggin
imports are fast runners 'cause they seen what they do
to sheep) then you could race em' (sheep) in the
Melbourn cup race coming up (strictly no kiwi jockeys
or contact between a jockey & another's mount/sheep
allowed, violaters will be fleeced ;).

Hey, aren't you the same !@#$% kiwi that commented on
my spelling & use of words once before, well stick It
in your ear yah' fruit ;) (GZ)

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Message no. 68
From: SteveG@***********.co.za (Steve Garrard)
Subject: Real Men, Real Role Players..
Date: Thu, 31 Oct 2002 11:29:12 +0200
Robert Ennew wrote:
> --- Keith Duthie <psycho@*********.co.nz> wrote: > On
> Tue, 29 Oct 2002, Rand Ratinac wrote:
> >
> > > 1. You'd trust the word of a nation of people who
> > > can't pronounce their "i"s??
> >
> > Well, I certainly wouldn't. See everyone? Even Doc
> > thinks nobody should
> > trust Aussies...
> >
> > --
> > Just because it isn't nice doesn't make it any less
> > a miracle.
> > http://users.albatross.co.nz/~psycho/ O-
> > -><-
> >
> "I" choose not to, doesn't me "I" can't or won't,
> e.g. I think that If you give the poor sheep a
> breather for a while,they might just even catch up
> with your horses (the only reason why the fraggin
> imports are fast runners 'cause they seen what they do
> to sheep) then you could race em' (sheep) in the
> Melbourn cup race coming up (strictly no kiwi jockeys
> or contact between a jockey & another's mount/sheep
> allowed, violaters will be fleeced ;).
>
> Hey, aren't you the same !@#$% kiwi that commented on
> my spelling & use of words once before, well stick It
> in your ear yah' fruit ;) (GZ)

I have to reiterate what someone has already said: this is getting
ridiculous and we're now way beyond OT and into the realm of something
altogether different.

Could we _please_ end this pointless thread or change to a more interesting,
preferably SR-related topic?


Slayer

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Message no. 69
From: robertennew@*****.com.au (Robert Ennew)
Subject: Real Men, Real Role Players..
Date: Thu, 31 Oct 2002 20:43:56 +1100 (EST)
--- Keith Duthie <psycho@*********.co.nz> wrote: > On
Mon, 28 Oct 2002, Justin Bell wrote:
>
> > with 64 sheep to each person, what do you think
> the real answer is?
>
> "Roast muffon"?
>
> Note that New Zealanders aren't the ones obsessing
> over sheep on this
> list. ;-)
>
> --
> Just because it isn't nice doesn't make it any less
> a miracle.
> http://users.albatross.co.nz/~psycho/ O-
> -><-
>
Well how do you not expect us not to react when a kiwi
openly admits he enjoys sheeps buns (above quoted
post), or did you mean roast mutton, I see you'd just
finished at the wool shed & you had "flossy" on the
brain. must have slipped your mind,The truth really
comes out now doesn't It ;) (GZ)

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Message no. 70
From: robertennew@*****.com.au (Robert Ennew)
Subject: Real Men, Real Role Players..
Date: Thu, 31 Oct 2002 20:49:02 +1100 (EST)
--- Danyeal De La Luna <lunatec@*****.com> wrote: > >
> >I'm most probabely a "real man" & "lunatic"
> > cross,(I definately avoid the sheep girlfriend
> > "fluffy", IMHO sheep girlfriends are ussually only
> > reserved for N.........er's ;)
> > >
> > > Ah, all the kiwis I know say it's the other way
> > round ;-)
> > > Lone Eagle
> >
> > 1. You'd trust the word of a nation of people who
> > can't pronounce their "i"s??
> >
> > 2. Saying "I know you are, but what am I?" or
> words to
> > that effect is the resort of people without a
> better
> > comeback.
> >
>
> Ahhh...it's so nice to see that other nations have
> such interesting
> rivalries, and not just us Americans. BTW, any
> Canuks on the list?
>
> Lunatec
>

I can't beleive the whole world doesn't know (I can't
beleive you haven't heard already) that kiwi's love
their sheep, literally ;) (GZ)

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Message no. 71
From: psycho@*********.co.nz (Keith Duthie)
Subject: Real Men, Real Role Players..
Date: Fri, 1 Nov 2002 00:04:09 +1300 (NZDT)
On Thu, 31 Oct 2002, Robert Ennew wrote:

> Well how do you not expect us not to react when a kiwi
> openly admits he enjoys sheeps buns (above quoted
> post), or did you mean roast mutton, I see you'd just
> finished at the wool shed & you had "flossy" on the
> brain. must have slipped your mind,The truth really
> comes out now doesn't It ;) (GZ)

How nice. Not only are you failing miserably at being coherent, but you're
also resorting to fraudulent practices to attempt to prop up your (for
want of a better word) "argument".

Just goes to show, eh?
--
Just because it isn't nice doesn't make it any less a miracle.
http://users.albatross.co.nz/~psycho/ O- -><-
Message no. 72
From: justin@******.net (Justin Bell)
Subject: Real Men, Real Role Players..
Date: Thu, 31 Oct 2002 09:22:15 -0500
Keith Duthie said the following on 10/31/2002 6:04 AM:

> On Thu, 31 Oct 2002, Robert Ennew wrote:
>
>
> >Well how do you not expect us not to react when a kiwi
> >openly admits he enjoys sheeps buns (above quoted
> >post), or did you mean roast mutton, I see you'd just
> >finished at the wool shed & you had "flossy" on the
> >brain. must have slipped your mind,The truth really
> >comes out now doesn't It ;) (GZ)
>
>
> How nice. Not only are you failing miserably at being coherent, but you're
> also resorting to fraudulent practices to attempt to prop up your (for
> want of a better word) "argument".
>
> Just goes to show, eh?

Is the kiwi national flower still the Ugg Boot?
Message no. 73
From: lunatec@*****.com (Danyeal De La Luna)
Subject: Real Men, Real Role Players..
Date: Thu, 31 Oct 2002 09:08:13 -0600
Sarge, stand by to call in air strike on this thread. Ready Napalm. And for
God's sake, please aim for the sheep!!!


Lunatec
Message no. 74
From: robertennew@*****.com.au (Robert Ennew)
Subject: Real Men, Real Role Players..
Date: Fri, 1 Nov 2002 18:30:12 +1100 (EST)
--- Rand Ratinac <docwagon101@*****.com> wrote: > > >
five you get sex
> > >
> > > >Justin Bell
> > >
> > >
> > > *lol*
> > >
> > > Yeah, except if that were true, there would be a
> hell of a lot more New Zealanders. As it stands,
> their
> population is only kept in check by the fact that
> they
> say "sux", not "sex". ;)
> >
> > We could bring this around to the "sex" not being
> with people.....
>
> Quite easily, yes - but I always thought that New
> Zealanders had enough sheep genes that they could
> interbreed anyway. ;)

Yeah the MAORINO ;)

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Message no. 75
From: robertennew@*****.com.au (Robert Ennew)
Subject: Real Men, Real Role Players..
Date: Fri, 1 Nov 2002 19:21:30 +1100 (EST)
--- Keith Duthie <psycho@*********.co.nz> wrote:

> How nice. Not only are you failing miserably at
> being coherent, but you're
> also resorting to fraudulent practices to attempt to
> prop up your (for
> want of a better word) "argument".
>
> Just goes to show, eh?
> --

Bah,Bah,Bahh, their is that more coherent for ya'! As
I officially started this off topic bastardisation of
real intended posted topic, I'll end It If It already
hasn't, with the last word, so don't gripe about It &
get your sense of humour back, okay, finished. (GZ)


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